The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

[uly166]

My ambient temps are about 20º.
In orthos bench 1 minute,temps go up at 30º.

 

[nitrotg]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: acivick

Originally posted by: nitrotg
Hi All

Like many of u i falled in love with this MB after reading some really nice reviews of it an desided that this should be the card i learned to oc with.. BUT.. not going so well as ia has hoped..

Let me start on what i have in my comp..

E6300 CPU
P5N-E SLI MB off cause
Corsair Twin2x PC6400CL4 2 gb Memory
OCZ GameXStream 600W
Inno 7900GT
Zalman 9500 CPU Cooler
Added a NorthQ 3880 Chipset cooler on the NB too

Now i have read alot before started this overclocking thing so im not totaly "green"

My problem is That no mather what i do i cant get over 1500 FSB QDR.. I have raised the MB volt to 1.5, vcore to 1.45, have tryed loosing the timings to 5-5-5-18 and even set max ram speed to 400 just to make sure the ram speed was not the problem..

But still orthos crash at 1550 and up..

My ram are in Black slots and bios is the new 0401. have turned of all extra things and added a passive profil on the SB. and disabled SLI memory since it kept setting my Timings a 1T even thogh set manual set it to 2T in bios..

Is there anything else i can try..
Thx alot in advance

My guess with yours, as well as mine, is that something is overheating and/or ASUS still doesn't have the other timings quite right for certain memory, such as our Promos. Try setting your memory voltage to 1.9 or 2.0 (then go higher), NB no higher than 1.39, and keep an eye on your Vdroop when running ORTHOS. If it dips below a certain point, it will fail.

Also, make sure you do a good number of runs of memtest to make sure your memory isn't what's failing you.

Maybe Core2 has some other ideas.

Only that a lot of people have had big problems with the C4's. If you can exchange them and go with either the cheaper C5 (I have them and they worked great to 900MHz) or another brand. The SUPER TALENT 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) have really been good to a 1000 MHz

So if i trade my set of rams out with a pair og CL5 i whould be able to get some higher FSB right?

Is't it the same as putting the timings at 5-5-5-12 insted? or is there a bigger diffrent between the CL4 or CL5

 

[heatpipe]

Thanks to all the regular posters in this thread. You've been a real help getting my new e4300 and Asus 650i up and running. I did, however, run into some trouble trying to get my NB and SB cooling solutions into place, and thought I would share some ideas that eventually worked for me.

NB Fan - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835185039

Get a 2" long or so sheet metal screw of slightly larger diameter than the gaps of the tines on the NB heatsink. Whack off the head of the screw with a moto tool metal cutting head. You will now probably need to drill out one mount hole on a fan corner slightly. Then scew the fan up to near the top of screw (but leave a stub to get your pliers on later). Now screw the bolt down into the hole between 4 of the tines on the NB heatsink (on the side opposite the cpu heatsink, first set of tines, just to the left or right of the big center rib).

With this method the fan can be held at a desired hight above the NB heatsink (screw the fan up or down, and adjust the coverage zone left or right as you desire). When you've got things right, put a drop of super glue where the screw is coming up through the fan mount hole to stop twisting movement. You'll find this method is plenty firm enough to hold that little fan (and hold it above the NB, rather than on it).

South Bridge - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118214

I had to whack off two sets of tines with my moto tool to get this Zalman HS to fit with my single gf8800 GTS. And I don't think you're ever going to be using SLI on this board with a SB heatsink installed (probably why it doesn't ship with one). The main problem, though, arose with the crappy little metal mounting rods this heatsink ships with, and the screws which hold it that are always coming lose. With all the exposed micro circuitry around the SB mounting holes, I was highly nervous about using this damn thing.

Solution: super glue the mounting nuts/screws when you have them adjusted correctly so that thay slide firmly into the HS slot (easier said than done). Then wrap the metal mounting legs in electric tape to prevent possible shorts if anything does come loose. Don't know why it took me so long to think of that last bit...

Now if I could just trust my cpu HS mounts. These plastic push pins are da suq for a big heatsink.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: JustaGeek
Hi All,
This is my first post, so... please be gentle LOL.
First of all - it is a great thread, I have been following it since the end of December, and you guys allowed me to learn a lot. Thank you.
I am not OC'ing my processor right now, and will probably enjoy a moderate overclock in the future, hopefully to allow my E6600 to reach about 3GHz. My memory should let me to go up to about 800MHz, so I have a little room here (it is presently at 667, a "leftover" from 775Dual-VSTA MB).
I would like to share one of my experiences with you, hopefully allowing you to properly test the overclock with ORTHOS or Dual Prime.
Apparently, the Windows XP has not been designed to work with dual core processors, or even the HT technology, and the performance, especially in gaming, can be severly affected! Browsing thru the OCZ memory forums, I have come across the XP update to address the issue: MS Article ID: 896256, http://support.microsoft.com/?id=896256
It helped me smooth-out the jittery performance of my games, and I hope it helps you with testing your overclock.
Please let me know how (if) it works for you.
Thanks again, you guys are great.

Welcome Aboard JustaGeek

Thanks for sharing your information. There is enough of us here so I'm sure that it will be tested

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: hankbaskett
Helpful thread!

Here is what I've settled on for now with this board.

Hank's Overclock

Does running my ram at 500Mhz with an 11:12 divider make sense, or should I be keeping it in sync with the CPU (468)?

I can't imagine it makes a huge difference, but I'd be curious.


E6300
2GB of Team Xtreem DDR2-800 CL4 Ram
0407 Bios
1.32 Vcore
2.256 vram
1.39 NB

hankbaskett Welcome Aboard
Nice job. Good clock. Nice Temps and voltages
Use Super Pi Mod 1.5 It will give you more accurate time ( to the hundreds of a second)
Its not a huge difference running at 500MHz so what ever works best for you. I would imagine it would be a little more demanding on the system

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: uly166
What do you think about my temps?
Are wrong?

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3325/nombre21pl3.jpg

uly166 Welcome Aboard
Let me see a screenshots in speedfan of your Advanced tab showing your temperature offsets for CPU temp and the Core temp offsets along side with a shot of your actual temps

Edit: You might have received a great chip there. I have a E6400 that runs extremely cool too. Not quite as cool as yours but, close.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: nitrotg

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: acivick

Originally posted by: nitrotg
Hi All

Like many of u i falled in love with this MB after reading some really nice reviews of it an desided that this should be the card i learned to oc with.. BUT.. not going so well as ia has hoped..

Let me start on what i have in my comp..

E6300 CPU
P5N-E SLI MB off cause
Corsair Twin2x PC6400CL4 2 gb Memory
OCZ GameXStream 600W
Inno 7900GT
Zalman 9500 CPU Cooler
Added a NorthQ 3880 Chipset cooler on the NB too

Now i have read alot before started this overclocking thing so im not totaly "green"

My problem is That no mather what i do i cant get over 1500 FSB QDR.. I have raised the MB volt to 1.5, vcore to 1.45, have tryed loosing the timings to 5-5-5-18 and even set max ram speed to 400 just to make sure the ram speed was not the problem..

But still orthos crash at 1550 and up..

My ram are in Black slots and bios is the new 0401. have turned of all extra things and added a passive profil on the SB. and disabled SLI memory since it kept setting my Timings a 1T even thogh set manual set it to 2T in bios..

Is there anything else i can try..
Thx alot in advance

My guess with yours, as well as mine, is that something is overheating and/or ASUS still doesn't have the other timings quite right for certain memory, such as our Promos. Try setting your memory voltage to 1.9 or 2.0 (then go higher), NB no higher than 1.39, and keep an eye on your Vdroop when running ORTHOS. If it dips below a certain point, it will fail.

Also, make sure you do a good number of runs of memtest to make sure your memory isn't what's failing you.

Maybe Core2 has some other ideas.

Only that a lot of people have had big problems with the C4's. If you can exchange them and go with either the cheaper C5 (I have them and they worked great to 900MHz) or another brand. The SUPER TALENT 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) have really been good to a 1000 MHz

So if i trade my set of rams out with a pair og CL5 i whould be able to get some higher FSB right?

Is't it the same as putting the timings at 5-5-5-12 insted? or is there a bigger diffrent between the CL4 or CL5

The problem with the C4's ( C5's are fine )s that Corsair has changed their chips recently ( Promos ) and they do not clock as well. Seeing you have the 0401 bios try switching your ram to the yellow slots. I tried that last night and I was amazed with my results. I haven't finished testing them yet but, it looks like they may have resolved the yellow slot syndrome with 0401
If that doesn't help then I would do a Memtest1.7 on each stick one at a time for errors and if your still having problems exchange them. The Corsair PC8500C5 DDR2 1066 clock to the moon if money is not an option

 

[nitrotg]

[/quote]

The problem with the C4's ( C5's are fine )s that Corsair has changed their chips recently ( Promos ) and they do not clock as well. Seeing you have the 0401 bios try switching your ram to the yellow slots. I tried that last night and I was amazed with my results. I haven't finished testing them yet but, it looks like they may have resolved the yellow slot syndrome with 0401
If that doesn't help then I would do a Memtest1.7 on each stick one at a time for errors and if your still having problems exchange them. The Corsair PC8500C5 DDR2 1066 clock to the moon if money is not an option[/quote]

Just tryed putting them in the yellow slots now.. no problem there.. but still getting memory error with mentest running 1550 and above.

Have exchange them 2 time allready. 1 time the one block was bad. 2 time i though maby i have gotten a bad set of rams since i could not get more oc.. but now i just know that the board dont like these rams :/

I will properly trade them with the CL5...

Thx alot for your help

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: nitrotg

The problem with the C4's ( C5's are fine )s that Corsair has changed their chips recently ( Promos ) and they do not clock as well. Seeing you have the 0401 bios try switching your ram to the yellow slots. I tried that last night and I was amazed with my results. I haven't finished testing them yet but, it looks like they may have resolved the yellow slot syndrome with 0401
If that doesn't help then I would do a Memtest1.7 on each stick one at a time for errors and if your still having problems exchange them. The Corsair PC8500C5 DDR2 1066 clock to the moon if money is not an option[/quote]

Just tryed putting them in the yellow slots now.. no problem there.. but still getting memory error with mentest running 1550 and above.

Have exchange them 2 time allready. 1 time the one block was bad. 2 time i though maby i have gotten a bad set of rams since i could not get more oc.. but now i just know that the board dont like these rams :/

I will properly trade them with the CL5...

Thx alot for your help [/quote]

Don't forget about the Super Talent they clock even higher then the C5's for about the same price you paid for the C4's. Just another thought

Edit: This was an Interesting Review from a customer who bought the C4"s



Tech Level:high
Ownership:1 week to 1 month
1/25/2007 5:49:51 AM UNTESTED JUNK -- FAILS MEMTEST


Pros: Newegg will let me return it.

Cons: Junk. Fails memtest at below 400 MHz using correct 2.1V and 4-4-4-12 setting on a new DS3 motherboard. Negative headroom -- does not even meet rated specs. Nobody at Corsair tested this memory before they send it to unsuspecting customers that much is obvious

Other Thoughts: Look at how many newegg customers got bad sets of memory. I will not be a return customer of Corsair memory products. Don't try and blame it on the motherboard either. That is crass.

Manufacturer Responseear fool me once -

There is nothing crass about asking for details on motherboard and BIOS - just an earnest desire to help the customer solve his or her problem.

We continue to see a very low return rate on this product, but a substantial number of product reviews showing problems. We are trying very hard to determine the reason for this inconsistency - platform compatibility can certainly be a cause of customer problems.

ALL Corsair parts are tested multiple times prior to shipment, well over their published spec.

Regards,
Corsair Tech Support
ramguy@corsairmemory.com
800-205-7657

 

[nitrotg]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: nitrotg

The problem with the C4's ( C5's are fine )s that Corsair has changed their chips recently ( Promos ) and they do not clock as well. Seeing you have the 0401 bios try switching your ram to the yellow slots. I tried that last night and I was amazed with my results. I haven't finished testing them yet but, it looks like they may have resolved the yellow slot syndrome with 0401
If that doesn't help then I would do a Memtest1.7 on each stick one at a time for errors and if your still having problems exchange them. The Corsair PC8500C5 DDR2 1066 clock to the moon if money is not an option

Just tryed putting them in the yellow slots now.. no problem there.. but still getting memory error with mentest running 1550 and above.

Have exchange them 2 time allready. 1 time the one block was bad. 2 time i though maby i have gotten a bad set of rams since i could not get more oc.. but now i just know that the board dont like these rams :/

I will properly trade them with the CL5...

Thx alot for your help [/quote]

Don't forget about the Super Talent they clock even higher then the C5's for about the same price you paid for the C4's. Just another thought[/quote]

yeah.. but the problem is that its been a month since i have bought them so i cant ask for my money back.. and he dont have Super talent.. only corsair :/ .. but are u sure that the CL5 are running with micros chips insted of primos..?

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: nitrotg

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: nitrotg

The problem with the C4's ( C5's are fine )s that Corsair has changed their chips recently ( Promos ) and they do not clock as well. Seeing you have the 0401 bios try switching your ram to the yellow slots. I tried that last night and I was amazed with my results. I haven't finished testing them yet but, it looks like they may have resolved the yellow slot syndrome with 0401
If that doesn't help then I would do a Memtest1.7 on each stick one at a time for errors and if your still having problems exchange them. The Corsair PC8500C5 DDR2 1066 clock to the moon if money is not an option

Just tryed putting them in the yellow slots now.. no problem there.. but still getting memory error with mentest running 1550 and above.

Have exchange them 2 time allready. 1 time the one block was bad. 2 time i though maby i have gotten a bad set of rams since i could not get more oc.. but now i just know that the board dont like these rams :/

I will properly trade them with the CL5...

Thx alot for your help

Don't forget about the Super Talent they clock even higher then the C5's for about the same price you paid for the C4's. Just another thought[/quote]

yeah.. but the problem is that its been a month since i have bought them so i cant ask for my money back.. and he dont have Super talent.. only corsair :/ .. but are u sure that the CL5 are running with micros chips insted of primos..?

[/quote]

Here is the DDR2 List

Look at my last post to you. I had Edited it

 

[nitrotg]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: nitrotg

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: nitrotg

The problem with the C4's ( C5's are fine )s that Corsair has changed their chips recently ( Promos ) and they do not clock as well. Seeing you have the 0401 bios try switching your ram to the yellow slots. I tried that last night and I was amazed with my results. I haven't finished testing them yet but, it looks like they may have resolved the yellow slot syndrome with 0401
If that doesn't help then I would do a Memtest1.7 on each stick one at a time for errors and if your still having problems exchange them. The Corsair PC8500C5 DDR2 1066 clock to the moon if money is not an option

Just tryed putting them in the yellow slots now.. no problem there.. but still getting memory error with mentest running 1550 and above.

Have exchange them 2 time allready. 1 time the one block was bad. 2 time i though maby i have gotten a bad set of rams since i could not get more oc.. but now i just know that the board dont like these rams :/

I will properly trade them with the CL5...

Thx alot for your help

Don't forget about the Super Talent they clock even higher then the C5's for about the same price you paid for the C4's. Just another thought

yeah.. but the problem is that its been a month since i have bought them so i cant ask for my money back.. and he dont have Super talent.. only corsair :/ .. but are u sure that the CL5 are running with micros chips insted of primos..?

[/quote]

Here is the DDR2 List

Look at my last post to you. I had Edited it[/quote]


Have i knew this of corsair ram i whould never had got them thats for sure.. How do i see what Rev my rams are?

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: nitrotg
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Have i knew this of corsair ram i whould never had got them thats for sure.. How do i see what Rev my rams are?
[/quote]

Its printed right on the label on the ram

 

[idiotekniQues]

must be corsair slacking cause the ocz platinum rev. 2 sticks are promos and they generally exceed their ratings from the feedback i have seen.

i can get them at almost 900mhz at 4-4-4-12 timings at 2.1v (spec) i i lower the timings i can go a bit higher. of course they are no micron d9's but they do have some headroom.

 

[acivick]

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
must be corsair slacking cause the ocz platinum rev. 2 sticks are promos and they generally exceed their ratings from the feedback i have seen.

i can get them at almost 900mhz at 4-4-4-12 timings at 2.1v (spec) i i lower the timings i can go a bit higher. of course they are no micron d9's but they do have some headroom.

I think the Promos are a mixed bag. I believe mine are also Promos (OCZ 6400 Titanium) but also have difficulties running at or above spec. It's funny because these are also supposed to be EPP ready.

I'll try switching them back to the yellow slots again, but I'm not convinced that will work.

 

[uly166]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: uly166
What do you think about my temps?
Are wrong?

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3325/nombre21pl3.jpg

uly166 Welcome Aboard
Let me see a screenshots in speedfan of your Advanced tab showing your temperature offsets for CPU temp and the Core temp offsets along side with a shot of your actual temps

Edit: You might have received a great chip there. I have a E6400 that runs extremely cool too. Not quite as cool as yours but, close.

Hi Core2

I think that speedfan is wrong,and i need to change offset,but ¿why coretemp beta 94 marks the same temperatures that sppedfan?

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8803/nombre4pg8.jpg

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: uly166

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: uly166
What do you think about my temps?
Are wrong?

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3325/nombre21pl3.jpg

uly166 Welcome Aboard
Let me see a screenshots in speedfan of your Advanced tab showing your temperature offsets for CPU temp and the Core temp offsets along side with a shot of your actual temps

Edit: You might have received a great chip there. I have a E6400 that runs extremely cool too. Not quite as cool as yours but, close.

Hi Core2

I think that speedfan is wrong,and i need to change offset,but ¿why coretemp beta 94 marks the same temperatures that sppedfan?

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8803/nombre4pg8.jpg

Offsets should be 0. Its just a little hard to believe that you core temps are cooler than your ambient air ( Do you have a window open or is the air on ??). What kind of cooling do you have besides the Freezer7? You must of did a good job installing that HSF.

 

[acivick]

Yellow slots are a no-go. Before, tighter timings would just fail ORTHOS. Now I got a blue screen and a forced reboot.

 

[uly166]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: uly166

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: uly166
What do you think about my temps?
Are wrong?

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3325/nombre21pl3.jpg

uly166 Welcome Aboard
Let me see a screenshots in speedfan of your Advanced tab showing your temperature offsets for CPU temp and the Core temp offsets along side with a shot of your actual temps

Edit: You might have received a great chip there. I have a E6400 that runs extremely cool too. Not quite as cool as yours but, close.

Hi Core2

I think that speedfan is wrong,and i need to change offset,but ¿why coretemp beta 94 marks the same temperatures that sppedfan?

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8803/nombre4pg8.jpg

Offsets should be 0. Its just a little hard to believe that you core temps are cooler than your ambient air ( Do you have a window open or is the air on ??). What kind of cooling do you have besides the Freezer7? You must of did a good job installing that HSF.

I have all offset 0.

I have case AEROCOOL EXTREMEENGINE 3T (two big fans 25cm and 14cm) and two fans in northbridge (one 4cm and 5cm),one xilent 12cms in back rear.

When start orthos the temps up to 30º in few seconds,but never pas at 40º.The artic cooling freezer is about 50%( 1500 rpm)

 

[JustaGeek]

Hi uly166 and Core 2,

I also have a bit of discrepancy in temps, depending on the software I use.
Example: Lavalys Everest 3.5 reports the processor at 23C, Core1 at 41C and Core2 at 41C.

Asus Probe reports the processor at 35C, which is about the same as my previous MB 775Dual-VSTA reported by SpeedFan. Core temp beta 94 always seeems to be in sync with Everest - 41C both cores.

It seems logical for the core temeratures to be slightly higher than the processor - about 6C higher. I think it would be a safe assumption.

E4300 is a brand new processor, perhaps Intel has changed the sensor, or the sensor code, and it is being misread by the coretemp94/Speedfan etc.

What do you think, Core 2...?

 

[Core2]

Just an update on a few things I have done. Last night for the heck of it I put my new ram PC8500C5 DDR2 1066 in the yellow slots I had been running them in the black slots thinking I would have the best performance there. The best I was doing was 1020 -1030MHz and 1040 would crash. After changing them to the yellow slots I can easily run 1066MHz on Auto or manual in the bios. Temps and voltages were lower across the board too. Now, I have always been able to use the yellow slots from day one and have had all four slots filled ( 512x4 ) till I received this new ram ( 1024x2 ) so this my not apply to you. I am just wondering if any one else has switched back to the yellow slots since upgrading to 0401. There seems there could be a little better voltage control or a remedy to this yellow slot syndrome.

Update: SLI Memory Option in the bios For all of you lucky enough to have SLI Certified Memory its worth giving it a try. The bios will read the information on the chip and will set your ram to run at its optimal performance. I said the other day that if you choose to enable this you would not have full control of the FSB and Memory speed. I was wrong ( I am learning this too. )all you have to do is select EXPERT in that option and you can change settings as you please. Experiment with full auto and manual settings for your ram and let me know if this improves performance

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: JustaGeek
Hi uly166 and Core 2,

I also have a bit of discrepancy in temps, depending on the software I use.
Example: Lavalys Everest 3.5 reports the processor at 23C, Core1 at 41C and Core2 at 41C.

Asus Probe reports the processor at 35C, which is about the same as my previous MB 775Dual-VSTA reported by SpeedFan. Core temp beta 94 always seeems to be in sync with Everest - 41C both cores.

It seems logical for the core temeratures to be slightly higher than the processor - about 6C higher. I think it would be a safe assumption.

E4300 is a brand new processor, perhaps Intel has changed the sensor, or the sensor code, and it is being misread by the coretemp94/Speedfan etc.

What do you think, Core 2...?

Speedfan Beta ( there has been a few releases) has been accessing the digital core temps the longest ( besides TAT Which doesn't run on this chipset )and is the most accurate. Analog temps can vary from one program to another. I just compare Speedfan Beta to Asus Probe II, which usually match, they access the same sensor. That should be all the reference you need. Core temps and MB temps should be your main focus along with Voltages.

Edit: You need to upgrade to Speedfan Beta 8 to get core temperatures. The normal Speedfan just shows CPU sensor temps.

 

[nitrotg]

All thats on my label on the rams is..

cm2x1024-6400c4
xms6404v2.1
0053910652480-0

So guessing that v2.1 is not volt but version

 

[zingero84]

With regards to Speedfan 4.31, my temperatures never really fluctuate at all? Is there something wrong with the program or board. The setup I am using never leaves 40C for the core temp?

Isn't there a program that measures northbrige and southbridge chipset temps too?

1. The 40C just seems pretty low under a full load and it never moves... any idea?

2. Also, does CPUZ-ID show if you're running in dual channel or not?

3. I have SMART enabled in the BIOS but speedfan won't read it. Not sure what to do here?

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: nitrotg
All thats on my label on the rams is..

cm2x1024-6400c4
xms6404v2.1
0053910652480-0

So guessing that v2.1 is not volt but version

Sorry to say PC6400C4 Rev 2.1 4.0-4-4-12 @ 2.1V ProMOS

Try enabling the SLI Option in the bios. I just posted information on that above