The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

[Nevets Drassel]

Originally posted by: adder1971

Originally posted by: Nevets Drassel

Originally posted by: Nevets Drassel

Originally posted by: Core2

You could try 7x500 mem at 1000 that would give you 3500 and a 2000 FSB. So far I seen people do 7x525 on air with this board. I would say that the Super Pi and the Bandwidth are going to be greater too by how much I don't know.

I'll give it a shot and see if that will give me better times. Will let you know soon.

OK how do I get to 7X500 for 3500? Setting the Multiplier to 7 and the memory to 1000 with the FSB at 1750 (FSB X 2 = Indicated Speed) ie 7 X 500 will only give me at 3.1 not the 3.5 when the FSB is = to 1750. Is there a ratio that I am missing some place? Its tough to go to Intel OC instead of the AMD that I have been doing since Pentium2 days.

7 multi, 2000 (400quad fsb) mem synched 1:1 = 1000mhz. NB will likely need to be 1.5, mem voltage auto or manu spec, core voltage likely auto but may need to manually increase to about 1.5 for stability.

good luck

I can not do 2000 at any multiplier. The system FSB will not even post past 1950 and all I get is a big nothing screen at 2000. Here-in lies the problem. I am limited to a max of 1950 on the FSB (QDR), MHz

 

[DeadMan3000]

I cannot get Speedfan to work. I disabled Q Fan and Chassis fan in the BIOS. But when I click on Configure in Speedfan beta 8 it does nothing and then I am unable to do anything in the Speedfan window.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000
I cannot get Speedfan to work. I disabled Q Fan and Chassis fan in the BIOS. But when I click on Configure in Speedfan beta 8 it does nothing and then I am unable to do anything in the Speedfan window.

Do you have probe or any other temp program running

Try un-installing it and kill the directory that it made and all files Then reinstall the way I have on page 92

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: Nevets Drassel

Originally posted by: adder1971

Originally posted by: Nevets Drassel

Originally posted by: Nevets Drassel

Originally posted by: Core2

You could try 7x500 mem at 1000 that would give you 3500 and a 2000 FSB. So far I seen people do 7x525 on air with this board. I would say that the Super Pi and the Bandwidth are going to be greater too by how much I don't know.

I'll give it a shot and see if that will give me better times. Will let you know soon.

OK how do I get to 7X500 for 3500? Setting the Multiplier to 7 and the memory to 1000 with the FSB at 1750 (FSB X 2 = Indicated Speed) ie 7 X 500 will only give me at 3.1 not the 3.5 when the FSB is = to 1750. Is there a ratio that I am missing some place? Its tough to go to Intel OC instead of the AMD that I have been doing since Pentium2 days.

7 multi, 2000 (400quad fsb) mem synched 1:1 = 1000mhz. NB will likely need to be 1.5, mem voltage auto or manu spec, core voltage likely auto but may need to manually increase to about 1.5 for stability.

good luck

I can not do 2000 at any multiplier. The system FSB will not even post past 1950 and all I get is a big nothing screen at 2000. Here-in lies the problem. I am limited to a max of 1950 on the FSB (QDR), MHz

whats your NB volts? and 487 FSB isn't too shabby with an 8x multi you can get all the way up to 3.9ghz

 

[Nevets Drassel]

Originally posted by: adder1971

Originally posted by: Nevets Drassel

Originally posted by: adder1971

Originally posted by: Nevets Drassel

Originally posted by: Nevets Drassel

Originally posted by: Core2

You could try 7x500 mem at 1000 that would give you 3500 and a 2000 FSB. So far I seen people do 7x525 on air with this board. I would say that the Super Pi and the Bandwidth are going to be greater too by how much I don't know.

I'll give it a shot and see if that will give me better times. Will let you know soon.

OK how do I get to 7X500 for 3500? Setting the Multiplier to 7 and the memory to 1000 with the FSB at 1750 (FSB X 2 = Indicated Speed) ie 7 X 500 will only give me at 3.1 not the 3.5 when the FSB is = to 1750. Is there a ratio that I am missing some place? Its tough to go to Intel OC instead of the AMD that I have been doing since Pentium2 days.

7 multi, 2000 (400quad fsb) mem synched 1:1 = 1000mhz. NB will likely need to be 1.5, mem voltage auto or manu spec, core voltage likely auto but may need to manually increase to about 1.5 for stability.

good luck

I can not do 2000 at any multiplier. The system FSB will not even post past 1950 and all I get is a big nothing screen at 2000. Here-in lies the problem. I am limited to a max of 1950 on the FSB (QDR), MHz

whats your NB volts?

NB is maxed. When at 1.5... the system will not boot.

 

[adder1971]

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whats your NB volts?[/quote]

NB is maxed. When at 1.5... the system will not boot.
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whats your highest stable FSB? I know you said 1950 but is that stable? and you can't get a 500 fsb even with a 6x multi? i'm just trying to figure out what is holding you back.

 

[DeadMan3000]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000
I cannot get Speedfan to work. I disabled Q Fan and Chassis fan in the BIOS. But when I click on Configure in Speedfan beta 8 it does nothing and then I am unable to do anything in the Speedfan window.

Do you have probe or any other temp program running

Try un-installing it and kill the directory that it made and all files Then reinstall the way I have on page 92

Yeah tried all that. Something it does not like on my system. Oh well have gone back to using Q Fan for now.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000
I cannot get Speedfan to work. I disabled Q Fan and Chassis fan in the BIOS. But when I click on Configure in Speedfan beta 8 it does nothing and then I am unable to do anything in the Speedfan window.

Do you have probe or any other temp program running

Try un-installing it and kill the directory that it made and all files Then reinstall the way I have on page 92

Yeah tried all that. Something it does not like on my system. Oh well have gone back to using Q Fan for now.

Did you read the help file you can run it with a command line switch so it can run in debug mode

From the help file

If SpeedFan starts and then hangs while detecting your hardware, it might be due to a problem with your SMBus. Most hardware monitoring chips nowadays are connected to the SMBus. Anyway: it might be that you need not to access the SMBus in order to get hardware monitoring info. You can try this by running SpeedFan with the following command line switch:

/NOSMBSCAN

If SpeedFan runs just fine when started using the previous command line switch, then it means that there is some problem between SpeedFan and your SMBus. I would like to know about problems and, therefore, please contact me and I will do my best to solve that issue.
In order to simplify the task of solving this incompatibility, I've added a special command line switch:

/SMBDEBUG

When you start SpeedFan using this command line switch, SpeedFan will avoid detecting your hardware monitoring chips and will open instead a debug window.



This window will help you scanning your SMBus, but will do that in several steps, to try to ease the task of detecting what's going on.
If you're just curious, you can run this debug window even if SpeedFan works flawlessly on your system
This debug window will generate a file named SMBDEBUG.NFO located in the same directory as SPEEDFAN.EXE. This is the file I need to start understanding what's going on with your system and it is continuously updated by SpeedFan while debugging.

In the following explanation, we will assume that the system hangs when the button you pressed disappeared and no other button appeared after something like a couple of minutes.

In order to start debugging, you have to (guess what? ) press START. SpeedFan will start scanning your SMBus for available devices. This is a quick scan and should not hurt your system (at least, it didn't hurt all the systems I've tried so far ). I your system should ever hang while doing this first scan, please, send me the resulting SMBDEBUG.NFO file. You can find that file even after a reboot.

If the program didn't hang, this is what it will look like after a while:



As you can see, SpeedFan is showing which SMBus is currently being scanned. Almost every PC has got at most one SMBus, but some have more than one and, anyway, SpeedFan is perfectly able to handle almost any number of them (this is something I'm very proud of ).
In the previous window you can see that SpeedFan is ready to scan the chip located at address $2D (this may vary from system to system). Press the SCAN NEXT ADDRESS button and you will see a running number showing which register is currently being accessed. When the register reaches $FF, SpeedFan will move on the next available address and show the button again.



Whenever available, press the button. If SpeedFan hangs while scanning any of the available addresses, wait for the usual couple of minutes and then send me the SMBDEBUG.NFO debug file. It would be nice if you tell me which were the last scanned address and register.

If everything works fine (i.e. the system doesn't hang), you will see this final window:



Anyway: if your system was hanging when scanning the SMBus and did not when using the /NOSMBSCAN command line switch, then I guess you will never see this window

 

[Core2]

I tried 7x500 and its a no go for me too. I had vcore 1.52 nb 1.56 2.25vdimm I tried auto NB, vcore, Vdimm SLI expert. I can do it easy on my P5 Deluxe not so with this board

Could be some FSB holes there too

8/7 = 1.1428 x 500 = 571.4285 x 4 = 2285.714 FSB That could be why

 

[DeadMan3000]

Does not matter if I disable SMB scanning. It still stops responding (But continues to show info and work from system tray) when I click on th Configure button. So no idea.

 

[dlfcobra]

I'm still totally unstable with 0401 and only stable at 0202 if I underclock.

I have:
re-seated the RAM
tried yellow slots, black slots, and one stick
double-checked all power connections
flashed to 0401, cleared CMOS, removed and replaced battery
changed memory to 2T at default settings
set memory to rated speed and voltages
run FSB and memory linked/unlinked at a myriad of speeds
kicked my computer

Nothing seems to work. Any other ideas? At the end of the day, if I'm only stable with one stick of RAM in one particular slot, that will be progress, but ASUS is going to get this motherboard back. As far as I can tell, I either: 1) have a faulty mobo, 2) have faulty RAM, 3) have components with some strange compatibility issue, or 4) have components that don't like 0401 (although that doesn't explain the necessity of underclocking for stability with 0202).

Is this a BIOS issue that can be corrected? Has anyone had similar problems and been able to identify the source?

i had the same problem and then i flashed back to the 0202 bios and set my ram timings manually and put my ram in the black slots and i've been fine so far haven't ran any tests yet but i haven't crashed or the system hasn't restarted yet either.... just trying to get some ideas on overclocking it now.... we pretty much have the same system...

 

[Nevets Drassel]

Originally posted by: adder1971

whats your NB volts?[/quote]

NB is maxed. When at 1.5... the system will not boot.
[/quote]

whats your highest stable FSB? I know you said 1950 but is that stable? and you can't get a 500 fsb even with a 6x multi? i'm just trying to figure out what is holding you back.

[/quote]


Based on the previous setup I attained a stable 3640 with moderate voltage increase(1.525 on the CPU, 1.53 on the NB). I achieved this with the Geil memory at 1.92v (rated at 2.1 to 2.3 volts) with default settings 4-4-4-12 2T at 800MHz actual, unlinked with a FSB of ~1810. I was stable for more than 16 hours of ORTHOS, small fft's. Seeing as the memory was not involved in the OC setup (running at default settings) I am assuming that 1810 is going to be the max FSB that this board will do stable at whatever multiplier is used.

Now lets assume (I hate that) that the 1810 FSB is the most stable run and the memory is switched out from GEIL to Crucial Ballistix rated at 4-4-4-12 2.2v. Because the memory was not OCed in the original setup, theoreticaly you should be able to switch out just about any memory that can be operated at 4-4-4-12 2T and it would not make a difference in the OC potential of the motherboard because the only thing that was OC'ed before was the CPU/NB talking to each other. If this is the case, then the maximum stable CPU/FSB is toped out at 1810 no matter what memory is used.

So to answer your question, I believe the maximum stable FSB to be around ~1810. I can boot up to ~1950 with high voltages for my max of 3900 but it is not stable enough to run ORTHOS but I can run windows and get validation from CPUz as well as run SuperPi.

Now with the Crucial Ballistix memory with the Micron Chips should of allowed me to OC to new heights but supprisingly it has not. Even though I can achieve a higher memory speed the limitations of the FSB prevent any further improvement. What a disappointment as I was hoping for at least some improvements in SuperPi which did not ultimately appear.

Now, my process of OC'ing that was used may be wrong, and if it is - please let me know so that I can fix it.

But no matter what memory I use, no matter what the voltages are, no matter what the timings are (unless they are way out of wack), no matter what memory slots I use, the FSB just will not clock over 1950. At 1952, no boot.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000
Does not matter if I disable SMB scanning. It still stops responding (But continues to show info and work from system tray) when I click on th Configure button. So no idea.

Well your the only one that I know of that it doesn't work for. Do you have HD Smart Monitoring enabled in the bios. I'm stabbing in the dark now

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: dlfcobra
I'm still totally unstable with 0401 and only stable at 0202 if I underclock.

I have:
re-seated the RAM
tried yellow slots, black slots, and one stick
double-checked all power connections
flashed to 0401, cleared CMOS, removed and replaced battery
changed memory to 2T at default settings
set memory to rated speed and voltages
run FSB and memory linked/unlinked at a myriad of speeds
kicked my computer

Nothing seems to work. Any other ideas? At the end of the day, if I'm only stable with one stick of RAM in one particular slot, that will be progress, but ASUS is going to get this motherboard back. As far as I can tell, I either: 1) have a faulty mobo, 2) have faulty RAM, 3) have components with some strange compatibility issue, or 4) have components that don't like 0401 (although that doesn't explain the necessity of underclocking for stability with 0202).

Is this a BIOS issue that can be corrected? Has anyone had similar problems and been able to identify the source?

i had the same problem and then i flashed back to the 0202 bios and set my ram timings manually and put my ram in the black slots and i've been fine so far haven't ran any tests yet but i haven't crashed or the system hasn't restarted yet either.... just trying to get some ideas on overclocking it now.... we pretty much have the same system...

dlfcobra

How much overclock do you want to do?
Do you have cooling on the NB and SB? This board gets hot and stabity goes down the drain fast without it

 

[DeadMan3000]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000
Does not matter if I disable SMB scanning. It still stops responding (But continues to show info and work from system tray) when I click on th Configure button. So no idea.

Well your the only one that I know of that it doesn't work for. Do you have HD Smart Monitoring enabled in the bios. I'm stabbing in the dark now

Yes I do. I may have to reset my bios to defaults at some point to see. But I dislike upsetting the apple cart all the while it's working (Had a blip earlier on which required a System Restore).

 

[1337SPEED]

Ok guys i'm brand new here... and i know this post has probably somewhere in the midst of 99 pages has answered or in someway resolved my issue but after reading 15 pages i figured i'd just join and post and see what happens... since you all seem like cool knowledgeable guys here goes... Ok like most everybody else on this topic i have a P5N-E SLI Mobo, but unlike anybody else i saw (in the 15 pages i read)... i'm running a QX6700 Cpu... the quad core... well after a few fedora / win xp pro woas i got everything on my new rig put together and the os and a few games installed... from the get go i've had memory problems... with stock timings, non-stock ... underclocked... every timing imaginable... well almost... and its not stable at the advertised specs of the ram... which is i think 5-5-5-12 2T (corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 (800mhz)). For some odd reason i got some "ok" stability at 5 5 5 18 2T... is this normal? and of course it was unstable anyway overclocked... but in all honesty i just want something stable that runs like it should... no need for overclocking... or not atleast at the moment. And when i say overclocking i guess i should clarify, no fsb or memory. I already have messed with the cpu a bit. But that should have little to do with my BSODs and instability in games not to mention ive tried it with all stock bios settings... I just wanna break it in for a while and play some rainbow six vegas. Anybody got any ideas of perfect settings for bios version 0401 and my setup? Any and all help is appreciated. Oh yeah i did mess around with the mem voltages and i got the best results with 1.92 but thats the closest i could get to factory specs, of 1.9 ... i've used CPUZ to check stuff too so if u need any addition info let me know... anyway fire away i'm listening.

 

[dlfcobra]

dlfcobra

How much overclock do you want to do?
Do you have cooling on the NB and SB? This board gets hot and stabity goes down the drain fast without it


I don't want to go too crazy with it! but would like to over clock my cpu and Ram moderately. i've got extreme air flow in my case...!! i've got 3 80mm fans two blowing in and one out, then 2 120mm fans one pulling air out of the back and one pulling air in the front. My mother board doesn't even get as hot as my CPU!! don't know what the average temps are for it but i've never seen it over 28*C so far. Also i just got another HD and was wondering how to setup the system to raid?? and would it be worth the effort to put it into raid?? but to answer your original question i don't know? what would be a moderate and achieveable OC? I see that my Ram is defineately capable of it, after reading this thread..

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: 1337SPEED
Ok guys i'm brand new here... and i know this post has probably somewhere in the midst of 99 pages has answered or in someway resolved my issue but after reading 15 pages i figured i'd just join and post and see what happens... since you all seem like cool knowledgeable guys here goes... Ok like most everybody else on this topic i have a P5N-E SLI Mobo, but unlike anybody else i saw (in the 15 pages i read)... i'm running a QX6700 Cpu... the quad core... well after a few fedora / win xp pro woas i got everything on my new rig put together and the os and a few games installed... from the get go i've had memory problems... with stock timings, non-stock ... underclocked... every timing imaginable... well almost... and its not stable at the advertised specs of the ram... which is i think 5-5-5-12 2T (corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 (800mhz)). For some odd reason i got some "ok" stability at 5 5 5 18 2T... is this normal? and of course it was unstable anyway overclocked... but in all honesty i just want something stable that runs like it should... no need for overclocking... or not atleast at the moment. And when i say overclocking i guess i should clarify, no fsb or memory. I already have messed with the cpu a bit. But that should have little to do with my BSODs and instability in games not to mention ive tried it with all stock bios settings... I just wanna break it in for a while and play some rainbow six vegas. Anybody got any ideas of perfect settings for bios version 0401 and my setup? Any and all help is appreciated. Oh yeah i did mess around with the mem voltages and i got the best results with 1.92 but thats the closest i could get to factory specs, of 1.9 ... i've used CPUZ to check stuff too so if u need any addition info let me know... anyway fire away i'm listening.

1337SPEED Welcome Aboard

First, what color slots do you have your memory in. If they are in the yellow slots try putting them in the black slots only. See if that helps. I have used the Corsair memory that you have and as long as you don't have a bad stick they run fine at 5-5-5-15 2T or better at 5-4-4-15 2T. That voltage you have set for them for stock FSB is good 1.92 so I would not change that. Let see what happens when you change slots and will go from there. We do have a member with a Quad like you have so maybe he will chime in with some info for you

Read through page 92 as we have started a tip and guide page and I will be updating it regularly so check that often.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: dlfcobra


dlfcobra

How much overclock do you want to do?
Do you have cooling on the NB and SB? This board gets hot and stabity goes down the drain fast without it


I don't want to go too crazy with it! but would like to over clock my cpu and Ram moderately. i've got extreme air flow in my case...!! i've got 3 80mm fans two blowing in and one out, then 2 120mm fans one pulling air out of the back and one pulling air in the front. My mother board doesn't even get as hot as my CPU!! don't know what the average temps are for it but i've never seen it over 28*C so far. Also i just got another HD and was wondering how to setup the system to raid?? and would it be worth the effort to put it into raid?? but to answer your original question i don't know? what would be a moderate and achieveable OC? I see that my Ram is defineately capable of it, after reading this thread..

I will put up a overclocking basic today on Page 92 so check that. You need a fan blowing directly on the NB. The SB should have a small heatsink on it too if your intension's are higher FSB clocks.

Edit: Ask adder1971 about the Raid setup when your ready. He is are expert in that area.

 

[1337SPEED]

Yeah i've seen all the posts about the yellow slots so i tried that too, the dimms are currently in the black slots only... and i'm currently using your suggested timings of 5 4 4 15 2T... This is the thing... At any of the bootable memory timings windows runs fine except in a few extreme cases i'd get a bsod... other than that i wouldn't even notice a problem until i loaded a game ... and or doing a test in orthos... Running a test on just the memory or just the cpu resulted in long stability times... but running it in mixed mode results in an error in less than a minute... Any thoughts? While i'm waiting i'll check out page 92 as u have suggested. Oh yeah thanks for the welcome

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: 1337SPEED
Yeah i've seen all the posts about the yellow slots so i tried that too, the dimms are currently in the black slots only... and i'm currently using your suggested timings of 5 4 4 15 2T... This is the thing... At any of the bootable memory timings windows runs fine except in a few extreme cases i'd get a bsod... other than that i wouldn't even notice a problem until i loaded a game ... and or doing a test in orthos... Running a test on just the memory or just the cpu resulted in long stability times... but running it in mixed mode results in an error in less than a minute... Any thoughts? While i'm waiting i'll check out page 92 as u have suggested. Oh yeah thanks for the welcome

welcome, i have heard issues with that mem. what cas rating 4 or 5?

Corsair XMS2 2GB DDR2 PC2 6400

 

[jdrom17]

I just bought this board and the E6600. The RAM I'm getting is the Corsair XMS2 Dominator TWIN2X2048-6400C4D 2GB 2X1GB.

Are there any reports with issues with it?

Thanks

 

[Core2]

I have put up an OverClocking Basic Guide on page 92. Ryan, I would like your input on what you think and if you can see anything that I should add or missed. I would recommend to 1337SPEED to try disabling the setting I have posted there and see if it helps

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: jdrom17
I just bought this board and the E6600. The RAM I'm getting is the Corsair XMS2 Dominator TWIN2X2048-6400C4D 2GB 2X1GB.

Are there any reports with issues with it?

Thanks

jdrom17 Welcome Aboard
Yes, They have changed the chips recently (Promos) and people where complaining that they would not clock well. Now they may have changed that. The only way to know is to check the DDR2 List when you get them

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: 1337SPEED
Yeah i've seen all the posts about the yellow slots so i tried that too, the dimms are currently in the black slots only... and i'm currently using your suggested timings of 5 4 4 15 2T... This is the thing... At any of the bootable memory timings windows runs fine except in a few extreme cases i'd get a bsod... other than that i wouldn't even notice a problem until i loaded a game ... and or doing a test in orthos... Running a test on just the memory or just the cpu resulted in long stability times... but running it in mixed mode results in an error in less than a minute... Any thoughts? While i'm waiting i'll check out page 92 as u have suggested. Oh yeah thanks for the welcome

Try to list your current voltages in your sig. Vcore, NB, Vdimm. Try to disable those setting that I have listed in the Overclocking Basic Guide too.

EDIT: Sounds like you might have a windows conflict. Check device manager for any yellow flags. Update to the latest chipset drivers at Nvidia web site Nvida Chipset Drivers Also you might want to try disabling disk caching. adder1971 can help you better with that