The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

[DeadMan3000]

OK I tried reseating the stock HSF again. This time I took the motherboard out and put it on the table. I gave the heatsink surface a good rubbing with rubbing alcohol and cleaned the CPU as best I could. I applied a beany gun sized blob of AS5 in the middle of the heatsink and reseated it. It's still not 100% firm on all corners. One corner feels a little springy. However I booted back up and it's sitting idle at 36-40 and at 54-55c full load. Better than it was but not fantastic. I could probably overclock a little until it heat 60c at peak load.

One thing I found out while playing. Exhaust is everything on a case. I have 3 fans. 2 x 120mm and 1 x 80mm on side. If I turn off the front and side fans and leave the rear on full I get better temps on EVERYTHING.

I also need some help. I am trying to give sensible names to Speedfan temps. In Everest it has some names. Can someone tell me what the temps 'Motherboard' 'Aux' and 'ACPI are? Is 'Motherboard' the Northbridge or is Aux? What the hell is ACPI? Oh yeah I also have a CPU temp that stays at 25c and never budges.

 

[p912043]

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000
OK I tried reseating the stock HSF again. This time I took the motherboard out and put it on the table. I gave the heatsink surface a good rubbing with rubbing alcohol and cleaned the CPU as best I could. I applied a beany gun sized blob of AS5 in the middle of the heatsink and reseated it. It's still not 100% firm on all corners. One corner feels a little springy. However I booted back up and it's sitting idle at 36-40 and at 54-55c full load. Better than it was but not fantastic. I could probably overclock a little until it heat 60c at peak load.

One thing I found out while playing. Exhaust is everything on a case. I have 3 fans. 2 x 120mm and 1 x 80mm on side. If I turn off the front and side fans and leave the rear on full I get better temps on EVERYTHING.

I also need some help. I am trying to give sensible names to Speedfan temps. In Everest it has some names. Can someone tell me what the temps 'Motherboard' 'Aux' and 'ACPI are? Is 'Motherboard' the Northbridge or is Aux? What the hell is ACPI? Oh yeah I also have a CPU temp that stays at 25c and never budges.

I think the ACPI is your Power Supply temp. & mine is always 40c. Motherboard is around 30-31c & my Aux is 120something but I think this is somehow the speedfan pick a wrong diode to report so I just ignore it & remove that from displaying. I also got the 25c but never know where the hell it came from?! I have 2 fans on the heatsink, 1 is 120mm silenx 1800rpm blowing & 1 is Vantec Stealth 1500rpm, the chasis fan at the back is the Arctic Cooling 1500rpm.

 

[sbinh]

Originally posted by: Genuine Imitation

I can't hit 800/1600 stable without putting the core voltage well over 1.5v. I'm running 3510 at 1.49, and that's probly where I'll stay for day to day stuff. So sadly my ram isn't even running at full speed as you hit the 1:1 divider just before 3.5ghz. Hoping to change that sometime. Maybe by dropping the multi and running 1:1 up to around 430-450ish, hopefully without having to loosen timings.

You mean 1.5v in BIOS or 1.5v when loaded?
I have to set in BIOS to 1.53+ in order to get 400x9 ....

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000
OK I tried reseating the stock HSF again. This time I took the motherboard out and put it on the table. I gave the heatsink surface a good rubbing with rubbing alcohol and cleaned the CPU as best I could. I applied a beany gun sized blob of AS5 in the middle of the heatsink and reseated it. It's still not 100% firm on all corners. One corner feels a little springy. However I booted back up and it's sitting idle at 36-40 and at 54-55c full load. Better than it was but not fantastic. I could probably overclock a little until it heat 60c at peak load.

One thing I found out while playing. Exhaust is everything on a case. I have 3 fans. 2 x 120mm and 1 x 80mm on side. If I turn off the front and side fans and leave the rear on full I get better temps on EVERYTHING.

I also need some help. I am trying to give sensible names to Speedfan temps. In Everest it has some names. Can someone tell me what the temps 'Motherboard' 'Aux' and 'ACPI are? Is 'Motherboard' the Northbridge or is Aux? What the hell is ACPI? Oh yeah I also have a CPU temp that stays at 25c and never budges.

36 - 40 temps for a E6600 on the first day of applying the paste is good. In speedfan the important temps are CPU, Core0, Core1, MB, and HD forget the rest. MB temps are not the NB temp

 

[okc]

Asus Probe v.01.04.08 = Install is buggy, WHQL flags, strange memory address error (all zeros) and everytime I reboot it asks about a file to run. Just uninstalled it.

On a side note, I tried running SLI Expert - Memory @ 4-4-4-1T (EPP rating) and cannot no matter what I change, get my progs to run. WinXP boots fine. Orthos spits out an error within 30 seconds, games lockup, etc etc Not sure if I want to play with the dimm voltage due to how hot they were when set @ 2.2 975mhz. OCZ states these sticks are under warranty up to 2.3v.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: sbinh

Originally posted by: Genuine Imitation

I can't hit 800/1600 stable without putting the core voltage well over 1.5v. I'm running 3510 at 1.49, and that's probly where I'll stay for day to day stuff. So sadly my ram isn't even running at full speed as you hit the 1:1 divider just before 3.5ghz. Hoping to change that sometime. Maybe by dropping the multi and running 1:1 up to around 430-450ish, hopefully without having to loosen timings.

You mean 1.5v in BIOS or 1.5v when loaded?
I have to set in BIOS to 1.53+ in order to get 400x9 ....

Whats the best you've done with the E6600 and this board? Are you using water or air? Seems a lot of work to OC these E6600.

 

[DeadMan3000]

Same issue with SLI on my memory. Using black slots.

So there is no temp reading for the NB chip? Aux gets really hot under load. So what is that?

 

[Genuine Imitation]

Originally posted by: sbinh

Originally posted by: Genuine Imitation

I can't hit 800/1600 stable without putting the core voltage well over 1.5v. I'm running 3510 at 1.49, and that's probly where I'll stay for day to day stuff. So sadly my ram isn't even running at full speed as you hit the 1:1 divider just before 3.5ghz. Hoping to change that sometime. Maybe by dropping the multi and running 1:1 up to around 430-450ish, hopefully without having to loosen timings.

You mean 1.5v in BIOS or 1.5v when loaded?
I have to set in BIOS to 1.53+ in order to get 400x9 ....

I meant 1.5v in the bios Currently when its orthos'ing or loaded with folding its around 1.39-1.41 after the droop with 1.49 set in the bios. I had it up to 1.52 in the bios and 1600 wasn't stable, so I didn't think it was really worth it.

What is your current bios and load droop for your day to day settings?

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: okc
Asus Probe v.01.04.08 = Install is buggy, WHQL flags, strange memory address error (all zeros) and everytime I reboot it asks about a file to run. Just uninstalled it.

On a side note, I tried running SLI Expert - Memory @ 4-4-4-1T (EPP rating) and cannot no matter what I change, get my progs to run. WinXP boots fine. Orthos spits out an error within 30 seconds, games lockup, etc etc Not sure if I want to play with the dimm voltage due to how hot they were when set @ 2.2 975mhz. OCZ states these sticks are under warranty up to 2.3v.

Let the bios set timings and voltage for the ram in SLI Expert. See what is reported in cpuz.

 

[sbinh]

Originally posted by: Core2

Whats the best you've done with the E6600 and this board? Are you using water or air? Seems a lot of work to OC these E6600.

The highest I could get 1880+ .... cannot get to 1900 due to my RAM (OCZ28002GK)
It's on water ..... at 3600MHz, temp idle @42*C (ambient 22*C) ... loaded@57*C. Though factor holds me back from ocing ....

Could be that I need to add more distilled water (use less water addictive)

 

[DeadMan3000]

So does anybody know what Aux (Temp1 in Speedfan) is?

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: p912043

I think the ACPI is your Power Supply temp. & mine is always 40c. Motherboard is around 30-31c & my Aux is 120something but I think this is somehow the speedfan pick a wrong diode to report so I just ignore it & remove that from displaying. I also got the 25c but never know where the hell it came from?! I have 2 fans on the heatsink, 1 is 120mm silenx 1800rpm blowing & 1 is Vantec Stealth 1500rpm, the chasis fan at the back is the Arctic Cooling 1500rpm.

How did you make out with your ram? I almost bought those. I ended up with the PC8500 which I'm happy with. I can't hit 3-4-3-9 1T. The best I can do is 4-3-3-9 1T. I guess I can't complain there rated for 5-5-5-15 at 1066MHz

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000
So does anybody know what Aux (Temp1 in Speedfan) is?

Thats the built in Barbecue Grill

 

[Genuine Imitation]

Originally posted by: sbinh

Originally posted by: Core2

Whats the best you've done with the E6600 and this board? Are you using water or air? Seems a lot of work to OC these E6600.

The highest I could get 1880+ .... cannot get to 1900 due to my RAM (OCZ28002GK)
It's on water ..... at 3600MHz, temp idle @42*C (ambient 22*C) ... loaded@57*C. Though factor holds me back from ocing ....

Could be that I need to add more distilled water (use less water addictive)

So what's your bios set vcore for 1800 or so? I'm running WC as well and even with a 7800GT in the loop I'm rarely breaking 40C in orthos.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: sbinh

Originally posted by: Core2

Whats the best you've done with the E6600 and this board? Are you using water or air? Seems a lot of work to OC these E6600.

The highest I could get 1880+ .... cannot get to 1900 due to my RAM (OCZ28002GK)
It's on water ..... at 3600MHz, temp idle @42*C (ambient 22*C) ... loaded@57*C. Though factor holds me back from ocing ....

Could be that I need to add more distilled water (use less water addictive)

Even if you Unlink the memory? The 1880 is that with a 9 multiplier or 7, 8?

 

[sbinh]

Originally posted by: Core2

Even if you Unlink the memory? The 1880 is that with a 9 multiplier or 7, 8?

Ofcourse it is unlinked
it should be 1896 FSB ... cuz I can remember I cannot go higher than 3.8GHz ...
so it's gonna be 1896 (474x8 ..)... and vcore had to set to 1.575v (i think) just to get into window ...

Temp for that FSB ? 48*C @idle .... ... 65+*C@loaded

 

[DeadMan3000]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000
So does anybody know what Aux (Temp1 in Speedfan) is?

Thats the built in Barbecue Grill

Seriously please. I want to know so I can give it a sensible name.

BTW I swapped the fan on the case side panel and it was already pulling air out. It is now pulling air in and temps have dropped substantially.

33c and 35c idle. Now that's more like it!

Going to try Orthos and see how it fares....

OK still gets to 54 and 55c at constant load. But better than it was. Not as good as it was originally though (No idea why it was OK for the first day then went to hell). Only time will tell.

EDIT: Thinking about it perhaps it needs a little more juice for SLI. Perhaps if I set it to 2.1+v it would sort out the stability issues. SOmething to bear in mind when I go fiddling again.

 

[DeadMan3000]

On SLI memory. If I set it and set voltages to auto I can't post and have to reset the CMOS. I know why because on auto it's not feeding the memory enough juice. If I manually set the memory voltage to just over 2v it will post with SLI on but I get system lockups in XP. I am going to leave it off for now until I can understand a little more. Or maybe just leave it off and attempt some overclocking of the CPU later (Heat issues permitting).

EDIT: Thinking about it perhaps it needs a little more juice for SLI memory mode. Maybe 2.1+v would help. I will try it sometime when I get the tweaking bug again.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000
On SLI memory. If I set it and set voltages to auto I can't post and have to reset the CMOS. I know why because on auto it's not feeding the memory enough juice. If I manually set the memory voltage to just over 2v it will post with SLI on but I get system lockups in XP. I am going to leave it off for now until I can understand a little more. Or maybe just leave it off and attempt some overclocking of the CPU later (Heat issues permitting).

EDIT: Thinking about it perhaps it needs a little more juice for SLI memory mode. Maybe 2.1+v would help. I will try it sometime when I get the tweaking bug again.

Model
Brand Crucial
Series Ballistix
Model BL2KIT12864AA804
Type 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
Tech Spec
Capacity 2GB (2 x 1GB)
Speed DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Cas Latency 4
Timing 4-4-4-12
Voltage 2.2V
Heat Spreader Yes

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000

Seriously please. I want to know so I can give it a sensible name.

Name it: == === SpeedFan ERROR ======

 

[sbinh]

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000


Seriously please. I want to know so I can give it a sensible name.

BTW I swapped the fan on the case side panel and it was already pulling air out. It is now pulling air in and temps have dropped substantially.

33c and 35c idle. Now that's more like it!

Going to try Orthos and see how it fares....

OK still gets to 54 and 55c at constant load. But better than it was. Not as good as it was originally though (No idea why it was OK for the first day then went to hell). Only time will tell.

EDIT: Thinking about it perhaps it needs a little more juice for SLI. Perhaps if I set it to 2.1+v it would sort out the stability issues. SOmething to bear in mind when I go fiddling again.

Are you still at stock at that temp? or did you oc your cpu ?
If still at stock .. it is too hot

 

[Genuine Imitation]

Originally posted by: sbinh

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000


Seriously please. I want to know so I can give it a sensible name.

BTW I swapped the fan on the case side panel and it was already pulling air out. It is now pulling air in and temps have dropped substantially.

33c and 35c idle. Now that's more like it!

Going to try Orthos and see how it fares....

OK still gets to 54 and 55c at constant load. But better than it was. Not as good as it was originally though (No idea why it was OK for the first day then went to hell). Only time will tell.

EDIT: Thinking about it perhaps it needs a little more juice for SLI. Perhaps if I set it to 2.1+v it would sort out the stability issues. SOmething to bear in mind when I go fiddling again.

Are you still at stock at that temp? or did you oc your cpu ?
If still at stock .. it is too hot

I agree, stock its way too hot. I do know that my 6600 has a VERY concave IHS, you might try adding a little more AS5 or whatever than usual to make up for hte gap. When I installed my stock HSF at first I put on the paper thin layer and while I still had better temps than you, when I took it off I was astounded to find a dime sized area of my AS5 hadn't even been touched! I made sure I added some extra for my apogee install.

Also, I'm running my ballistix at 4-4-4-12 2T 2.078v in the bios. In case you were curious. I've not played with the SLI mem settings yet.

 

[p912043]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: p912043

I think the ACPI is your Power Supply temp. & mine is always 40c. Motherboard is around 30-31c & my Aux is 120something but I think this is somehow the speedfan pick a wrong diode to report so I just ignore it & remove that from displaying. I also got the 25c but never know where the hell it came from?! I have 2 fans on the heatsink, 1 is 120mm silenx 1800rpm blowing & 1 is Vantec Stealth 1500rpm, the chasis fan at the back is the Arctic Cooling 1500rpm.

How did you make out with your ram? I almost bought those. I ended up with the PC8500 which I'm happy with. I can't hit 3-4-3-9 1T. The best I can do is 4-3-3-9 1T. I guess I can't complain there rated for 5-5-5-15 at 1066MHz

I work step by step from your guide with 1200MHz then 1300MHz... with spec. 3-4-3-9 1T & SuperPi32M & OCCT each time, so keep increasing FSB 100MHz till 1600MHz (3600MHz) with Multi 9 (for Multi 10 I can hit 3500MHz solid with divider 13:16, will try pushing more to test tonite) And I use a bit more vdimm above spec. at 2.26... to make sure the ram got enough juice. And set my vCore 1.50. I like this ram but I really need to find out how to get the divider control by myself. Now I am using Unlink but only the FSB & mem speed I can control. The divider is AUTO & dim so can't modify. The mem I still can't figure out... all I can boot up at most is 450MHz (even with 4-4-4-12 or 5-5-5-15 2T) nothing can be done pass 450MHz, the PC simply hang at first screen, & most of the time I saw this happened, I need to reset the CMOS & leave only one ram in order to boot back into BIOS & load the OC profile back tehn put back the other ram back to work again.

Core2 your ram is at C5 but you still run them in 4-3-3-9 which is extremely nice work already. And I think we just need to explore the way to get the ram bandwidth up then we should be good to go, but this might need to wait for the next BIOS update again.... this board has great potential but the BIOS still need to be mature a bit more.

 

[DeadMan3000]

Originally posted by: sbinh

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000


Seriously please. I want to know so I can give it a sensible name.

BTW I swapped the fan on the case side panel and it was already pulling air out. It is now pulling air in and temps have dropped substantially.

33c and 35c idle. Now that's more like it!

Going to try Orthos and see how it fares....

OK still gets to 54 and 55c at constant load. But better than it was. Not as good as it was originally though (No idea why it was OK for the first day then went to hell). Only time will tell.

EDIT: Thinking about it perhaps it needs a little more juice for SLI. Perhaps if I set it to 2.1+v it would sort out the stability issues. SOmething to bear in mind when I go fiddling again.

Are you still at stock at that temp? or did you oc your cpu ?
If still at stock .. it is too hot

Still at stock. I don't know. It may be my setup. I run 2 x Asus 7600GT Silent video cards which probably generate some heat inside the case. I managed to drop the temps a bit by messing with the fans on the case etc. I don't know what else I can do really. I put a beany blob of Arctic Silver 5 on the heatsink. I will just have to run with it for now until I get the urge to change the HSF to the Arctic Freezer 7.

 

[DeadMan3000]

Voltage 2.2V

That would explain it. But what is the correct setting? 2.178v or 2.259v?

 

[DeadMan3000]

Originally posted by: Genuine Imitation

Originally posted by: sbinh

Originally posted by: DeadMan3000


Seriously please. I want to know so I can give it a sensible name.

BTW I swapped the fan on the case side panel and it was already pulling air out. It is now pulling air in and temps have dropped substantially.

33c and 35c idle. Now that's more like it!

Going to try Orthos and see how it fares....

OK still gets to 54 and 55c at constant load. But better than it was. Not as good as it was originally though (No idea why it was OK for the first day then went to hell). Only time will tell.

EDIT: Thinking about it perhaps it needs a little more juice for SLI. Perhaps if I set it to 2.1+v it would sort out the stability issues. SOmething to bear in mind when I go fiddling again.

Are you still at stock at that temp? or did you oc your cpu ?
If still at stock .. it is too hot

I agree, stock its way too hot. I do know that my 6600 has a VERY concave IHS, you might try adding a little more AS5 or whatever than usual to make up for hte gap. When I installed my stock HSF at first I put on the paper thin layer and while I still had better temps than you, when I took it off I was astounded to find a dime sized area of my AS5 hadn't even been touched! I made sure I added some extra for my apogee install.

Also, I'm running my ballistix at 4-4-4-12 2T 2.078v in the bios. In case you were curious. I've not played with the SLI mem settings yet.

I'm beginning to think you are right. What makes me think that? Because I did what you did. Applied a thin layer. It was way too hot. But when I took the HSF off there was patches where the HSF had not compressed the paste. I am beginning to think maybe this is why after the initial installation of the stock HSF temps were OK for about a day or so. Then they went up significantly as the stock thermal paste spread outwards leaving a concave dip in the paste. This would explain A LOT. I don't think adding more paste will solve this problem if this is the case. When I took the HSF for the very first time the thermal paste was right out at the edges squeezing off the plate so there was PLENTY of paste on there. Just not in the middle of the CPU!

Another cooler may solve this if it presses down firmly enough and the plate and HSF contact meet more squarely that is. Otherwise it may make little difference. I believe this may be why some people complain that changing their HSF does not always give them cooler temps. A flaw in the CPU manufacture like this would cause this problem.

I guess I may have got unlucky with a very concave CPU plate. If the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro does not resolve this then this is a design problem I will have a tough time getting around. No overclocking for me if that is the case