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Core2

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Originally posted by: Numble
My first build
Thank you all for your advice, I finally got my first stable OC in 0401! *woot*
Recently installed Vista and *fingers crossed* so far so good...
I'd like to share my thoughts, seeing as everyone has had such varied experiences with this board. Although I've had my fair share of (dozens of) problems, I'm starting to really dig this board.

Most of my problems have been memory related, using Corsair CM2X1024-6400C4 (2GB)

After 0401 flash, can no longer use Black RAM slots, only yellow
Was running stock 4-4-4-12 1T in 0202
Then running lax in 5-5-5-15 2T in 0401, until disabled SLI Ready RAM option
Now back down to 4-4-4-12 2T, cannot boot Vista @ 1T

vdimm 2.17v
Vcore 1.362v
NB 1.39v

366mhz fsb x 9.0 multi ~ 3.3Ghz @ 1466 fsb
11:12 fsbRAM

I've got some work to do, and I have these goals yet to obtain:
Memory timings back to 1T (was able to in 0202)
FSB to 400+ (haven't in either BIOS)

I have thus far limited myself to air cooling, and left the NB/SB stock, so I'm pretty happy with what I've got going so far. Been running oblivion cranked on HDR *flawlessly* and I'm running the NTune stability test as I write this.

I'm not pushing too much voltage through here, I've got great airflow, and my temps were fine in XP at slightly lower OC, but I'd really like to be sure my temps are good... Since Vista, I can't seem to find a temp monitor. PC Probe no longer works. Any Suggestions?

Welcome Aboard Numble

Good job! For your ram you might want to try switching your ram modules to get 1T. Try the front yellow in the back yellow and the same for the other. It worked for me. I know its sounds strange but, you could have one module that performs better then the other. Your going to need some kind of cooling on the NB. You can put a small fan right on it and that should be enough. SB too should have a small heat sink. That should help you achieve higher FSB and perform better in intensive game play. You might want to play with lower voltage like Snappye has recommended. All of the Corsair PC6400 and PC8500 I have will run fine at 800MHz to 900MHz with just 1.92 - 2.1 volts with timings of 4-4-4-12 2T, 5-4-4-12 2T and 5-5-5-15 2T
 

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Originally posted by: ffallic
Well, tried upping my fsb last night without lowering the multiplier on my e4300. Managed to get into windows with CPU at 3555Mhz and an FSB of 1580! Of course, I need to note that while windows booted and i could do basics it crashed as soon as I ran orthos, but I was expecting that. I was only trying to find out if i could push 400/1600 fsb if I did not lower my multiplier.

I set it to 1600, and it would start posting but then hang... I am sure this is a cpu limitation I am hitting and I did not want to up the vcore to high and fry my chip. Still on stock cooling.

So it would seem I am able to get the FSB I am after, but not if I lower the multiplier. But if I don't lower the multiplier, the CPU can't handle the speed... so if I need a cpu with an 8 x multiplier, would an e4200 help me in this?

Edit: I suppose the chip I am really after here is the e6400, isn't it?

Yes, the E6400 seems to OC the best with the least problems. I have two E6400 and one E6300 prefer the E6400 over the two. For only $40 dollars more then the E4300

 

Core2

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Originally posted by: Barslund
So, i dont know if you remember me.
But i have bought a Gigabyte DS3 and now everything works fine!

Its was the P5N-E SLI that was the problem

Im flying now i can play BF2 againg after a break of 2 weeks

Good for you
 

Core2

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Originally posted by: uly166
Originally posted by: Core2
Originally posted by: uly166
My E4300 makes 3600Mhz (400x9) with 1´55v and 3200Mhz (8x400) with 1´3375v

Yea, but is it stable at 3600MHz? Post some 3Dmark06 scores at that speed.

No,it is not estable at 1´6v.
The temps....coretemp idle ¿15º?,in full al 3600Mhz 69º with artic cooling freezeer pro.

I would change my sig to the highest and most stable OC. This way when people see your sig they are not fooled into thinking you are running stable at that. You could re-word that as being you highest Cpuz validation, but you have to show it and word it to be just that. My highest clock is 3885 and is no where stable enough to run. At 3800 I am stable as a rock and I still put a more conservative clock of 3448 in my sig.
 

Core2

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Originally posted by: Snappye
Just want to post to help out anyone still experiencing problems using Corsair TWINX6400 C4 RAM in the 650i.

I have 2 x 1GB sticks in the black slots. They are much more stable than the yellow slots, but I was still getting the occasional BSOD. I lodged a ticket with Corsair who recommended I manually set the DDR voltage to 1.9. I've actually set it to 2.0, and it seems to have worked - a lot more stable over the last 3 days.

Just in case anyone's had the same issue. I'm on the original (0202) BIOS btw.

Welcome Aboard Snappye

Thanks for sharing your information.
 

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Originally posted by: Core2

Looks good to me. Its a very detailed sig. Have you played with different multipliers? Its nice when voltages work on auto. Just be careful and monitor them so the bios doesn't set them above what is needed

No. I have some new settings I set last night and tested. I am unable to post a stable 3.5 (1400x10); RAM unlinked or 3:4. I'll mess around with it tonight again when I can. I should be able to out clock a E6600, I would assume...

 

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well, i did some more tweaking and took the numbers down this morning before work, but i forgot to bring those numbers with me. but here are some results:

1. at 1.425vcore, 1.563nb, 2.178vdimm (might've been 2.25), i can get 400/1600 stable at 8x multiplier.
2. 400/1600 is absolutely not doable at any vcore with vdimm at 2.25, i had it up to 1.60v (max in the options) with +100mv offset and it would boot to windows from time to time, and crash soon while in windows. also at these settings, cpu was idling at 42C and the core temps as read by speefan are 47 and 52.
3. at below 1.5vcore, i'd get a failed to boot msg during post b4 it tries to boot to windows.

currently still on 400/1600 x8, while it's a nice oc, it makes me feel like i have a E6400 with extra cache.
 

Core2

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Originally posted by: jkcheng122
well, i did some more tweaking and took the numbers down this morning before work, but i forgot to bring those numbers with me. but here are some results:

1. at 1.425vcore, 1.563nb, 2.178vdimm (might've been 2.25), i can get 400/1600 stable at 8x multiplier.
2. 400/1600 is absolutely not doable at any vcore with vdimm at 2.25, i had it up to 1.60v (max in the options) with +100mv offset and it would boot to windows from time to time, and crash soon while in windows. also at these settings, cpu was idling at 42C and the core temps as read by speefan are 47 and 52.
3. at below 1.5vcore, i'd get a failed to boot msg during post b4 it tries to boot to windows.

currently still on 400/1600 x8, while it's a nice oc, it makes me feel like i have a E6400 with extra cache.

Sorry, I like the 1900/950 makes me feel like I have a Qx6700 with the cache
 

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Originally posted by: Core2
Originally posted by: DeadMan3000
Core2 is there any way to get Speedfan to work the Arctic Fan correctly? I set it like you set yours and I still have to manually drop fan 1 to 40% or it will just sit at full speed even with Auto enabled. I tried changing the stuff in the 'Speeds' section to auto variance on each speed to see if it made any difference but it doesn't seem to. I initially had it moving up and down from 40% to 50% etc but now it don't do anything anymore. No idea why. Perhaps Speedfan is just buggy right now at beta 8.

Q-Fan is disabled in the BIOS. I have most of my CPU settings in the BIOS same as you state on page 92 apart from the overclocks that is and Speedfan settings the same.

What are the Desired temps and Warning temps set at? I need more info. I only gave the minimal setup you have yo tweak your own Temps, Speeds, Events. Do you have Q chassis fan disabled?


The desired temps are 40c with 50c max as default. But I tried changing to 47c on each core and a low 30c on each core just to see what happened and I made sure the divisor was 8 (Box ticked to save) and Speed was set to auto variation.

Now here is the thing. When I set the max value in speed to say 15% the speed of the fan drops to 15% BUT when under load it does not auto adjust the speed of the fan upwards. Instead when it hits 50c it goes straight to 100% CPU fan speed and bounces between 15% and 100% speed as the temps hits 50c each time.

I tried another road. I tried setting the Speed in Configuration to 75% and this time when I put the CPU under load the speed stepped upwards in 10% increments. BUT it DOES NOT go back down in speed once the CPU cools down! It just stays at 75%

So How do I get it to step up speed in increments from my minimun speed percentage to 100% and then step back down in increments as the CPU heat goes down??? I want the fan speed to auto adjust according to temperature but it's not working that way.

EDIT: Ok from playing around it seems there is no 'desired' speed option. In other words there is a minimum and maximum speed and it will only step up to the maximum speed you set but NEVER steps back down to the minimum speed. So if you set the min speed at 25% (Seems to be the lowest value for the Arctic Freezer that has any effect) and max speed to 75% it will ALWAYS run at 75% when on auto. It will not step back down to the minimum value

To me this is a missing feature that is very desirable. To allow the fan speed to auto step up and down between the min and max according to the temps would make for a MUCH quieter system overall. I hate fan noise and it's a pain having to manually adjust the speeds.

EDIT2: What I am saying is that there should be a 'Desired' speed. If anything the 'Mininum' speed should be the 'Desired' speed whilst the 'Maximum' speed (Currently what appears to be the desired speed) is what the fan speed will step up to in auto increments as CPU load and temperature increase until it either hits the maximum speed percentage you set or hits the warning temperature and goes to 100% speed.

Does what I have said make sense?
 

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Go into the options Tab. Set the Delta value for fan speed to [2]. Uncheck set fans to 100% on exit. Uncheck Let speedfan access sensors through SMBus ( leave ISA Bus checked ). There is a help file just press F1 that you can read and he has another web site for Q & A. I thought it was easy to setup never read the instruction, just experimented.
 

DeadMan3000

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Originally posted by: Core2
Go into the options Tab. Set the Delta value for fan speed to [2]. Uncheck set fans to 100% on exit. Uncheck Let speedfan access sensors through SMBus ( leave ISA Bus checked ). There is a help file just press F1 that you can read and he has another web site for Q & A. I thought it was easy to setup never read the instruction, just experimented.

I tried that. I also exited and restarted the program to make sure. Speeds never increase beyond the initial Max value you set under the 'Speeds' tab except when it hits the 'Warning' temp under the 'Temperatures' tab. It also never drops below the Max speed set under the 'Speeds' tab. I also tried using PWM ON/OFF and SmartGuardian. Neither worked as expected so I set it back to Software Controlled.

Core2 you have the same motherboard and HSF as me so tell me this. When you set your Min and Max speeds and run Orthos. Does the fan speed always stay at the Max speed you set except when you reach the warning temp? If it never drops back down below the Max speed you set then it's not working the way I would have hoped it would.

Try setting your Min speed to 25% which appears to be the lowest speed this HSF will go and your Max to 75% and tell me if it ever drops lower than 75%
 

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It always drops back to min speed if the criteria is met. My HSF is set to 37%Min 100% Max. Case fans are set to 43%Min 100%Max
 

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Then I do not understand why my speeds never fall back to the minimum speed. I've tried all the settings I can think of. Any chance of pasting your 'speedfanevents.cfg', 'speedfanparams.cfg' and 'speedfansens.cfg' here? I can try your settings directly then. I know your setup is different but I am only interested in the CPU fan speed right now as I manually control the case fans for the moment from a fan controller.

EDIT: I also just tried running Orthos then stopping it as the fan speed went up in percentages. I stopped Orthos as it hits 64% speed. But now it will NOT go back down from 64%. I have mine set to 37% min and 100% Max like yours just to see.
 

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got my xeon 3040 to go to 2.8 but it throttles at 100% 61C need a new cpu hsf....
1.3v cpu 1.39 nb
much faster..
 

Core2

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Originally posted by: DeadMan3000
Then I do not understand why my speeds never fall back to the minimum speed. I've tried all the settings I can think of. Any chance of pasting your 'speedfanevents.cfg', 'speedfanparams.cfg' and 'speedfansens.cfg' here? I can try your settings directly then. I know your setup is different but I am only interested in the CPU fan speed right now as I manually control the case fans for the moment from a fan controller.

EDIT: I also just tried running Orthos then stopping it as the fan speed went up in percentages. I stopped Orthos as it hits 64% speed. But now it will NOT go back down from 64%. I have mine set to 37% min and 100% Max like yours just to see.

You can try it. I don't know if it will work


speedfanparams.cfg
TrayFontSize=1
NoMoreTip0001=true
NoMoreTip0002=false
NoMoreTip0003=true
NoMoreTip0004=false
NoMoreTip0005=true
FullOnExit=false
MinimizeOnClose=true
FanDelta=2
UseCelsius=true
DebugMode=true
DellFans=false
UseISA=true
UseSMB=false
StartupHide=true
LastDetect=35B104D7E0B1FD40ADA0CB7283574D08
CLKMBVendor=
CLKMBModel=
CLKLow=
CLKHigh=
LowCPUUsage=10
HighCPUUsage=40
LowCPUTime=10
HighCPUTime=4
AutoClockSet=false
CLIconBack=$1FFFFFFF
CLIconText=$FF0000
Language=English
LogEnabled=true
LogAddHeader=true
LogDecSep=.
LogMaxDays=5
LogMaxDecs=2
AutoFanSpeed=true

speedfansens.cfg
xxx version 2.01

xxx Link UniqueID=ISA@$290
Name=ISA
Address=$290
xxx end

xxx Link UniqueID=PCI@$0
Name=PCI
Address=$0
xxx end

xxx Link UniqueID=SMBusnForce2@$1C00
Name=SMBus
Address=$1C00
xxx end

xxx Link UniqueID=SMBusnForce2@$1C80
Name=SMBus
Address=$1C80
xxx end

xxx Link UniqueID=SMART@$0
Name=SMART
Address=$0
xxx end

xxx Sensor UniqueID=IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
Name=IT8712F
UsedBUS=ISA
Address=$290
Link=ISA
StickyProps=18
Property=26 |FAN1 mult| set to |1|
Property=27 |FAN2 mult| set to |1|
Property=28 |FAN3 mult| set to |1|
Property=19 |PWM 3 mode| set to |Software controlled|
Property=48 |FAN3 div| set to |2|
Property=13 |PWM 1 mode| set to |Software controlled|
Property=14 |PWM 2 mode| set to |Software controlled|
Property=102 |PWM 4 mode| set to |Software controlled|
Property=103 |PWM 5 mode| set to |Software controlled|
Property=76 |Temperature 1 offset| set to |0|
Property=46 |FAN1 div| set to |1|
Property=8 |FAN1 divisor| set to |8|
Property=47 |FAN2 div| set to |2|
Property=3 |Temperature sensor diode 3| set to |Thermistor|
Property=1 |Temperature sensor diode 1| set to |Thermistor|
Property=2 |Temperature sensor diode 2| set to |Thermistor|
Property=9 |FAN2 divisor| set to |2|
Property=10 |FAN3 divisor| set to |2|
xxx end

xxx Sensor UniqueID=WDC WD2500JS-60NCB1WD-WCANK6675234
Name=HD0 (250.1GB)
UsedBUS=SMART
Address=$0
Link=SMART
StickyProps=0
xxx end

xxx Sensor UniqueID=WDC WD2500JS-60NCB1WD-WCANK8685048
Name=HD1 (250.1GB)
UsedBUS=SMART
Address=$1
Link=SMART
StickyProps=0
xxx end

xxx Sensor UniqueID=ACPI
Name=ACPI
UsedBUS=ISA
Address=$0
Link=ISA
StickyProps=0
xxx end

xxx Sensor UniqueID=INTEL CORE@$0(onISA@$290)
Name=INTEL CORE
UsedBUS=ISA
Address=$0
Link=ISA
StickyProps=0
xxx end

xxx the end

xxx Pwm 1 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=CPU
active=true
min=40
max=100
variate=true
xxx end

xxx Pwm 2 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=F and R Fans
active=true
min=80
max=100
variate=true
xxx end

xxx Pwm 3 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=Speed03
active=false
min=0
max=100
variate=false
xxx end

xxx Pwm 4 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=Speed04
active=false
min=0
max=100
variate=false
xxx end

xxx Pwm 5 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=Speed05
active=false
min=0
max=100
variate=false
xxx end

xxx Temp 1 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=CPU
active=true
wanted=38
warning=50
offset=0
intray=true
UsedPwms=2
pwm=1 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
pwm=2 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Temp 1 from INTEL CORE@$0(onISA@$290)
name=Core 0
active=true
wanted=35
warning=50
offset=0
intray=false
UsedPwms=2
pwm=1 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
pwm=2 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Temp 2 from INTEL CORE@$0(onISA@$290)
name=Core 1
active=true
wanted=35
warning=50
offset=0
intray=false
UsedPwms=2
pwm=1 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
pwm=2 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Temp 2 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=MB
active=true
wanted=37
warning=50
offset=0
intray=false
UsedPwms=1
pwm=2 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Temp 1 from WDC WD2500JS-60NCB1WD-WCANK6675234
name=HD0
active=true
wanted=44
warning=50
offset=0
intray=false
UsedPwms=1
pwm=2 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Temp 3 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=????
active=false
wanted=40
warning=50
offset=0
intray=false
UsedPwms=0
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Temp 1 from ACPI
name=????
active=false
wanted=50
warning=55
offset=0
intray=false
UsedPwms=0
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Temp 1 from WDC WD2500JS-60NCB1WD-WCANK8685048
name=HD1
active=true
wanted=44
warning=50
offset=0
intray=false
UsedPwms=1
pwm=2 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Fan 1 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=CPU Fan
active=true
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Fan 2 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=Front Fan
active=true
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Fan 3 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=Rear Fan
active=true
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Volt 1 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=Vcore1
active=true
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Volt 2 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=Vcore2
active=false
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Volt 3 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=+3.3V
active=false
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Volt 4 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=+5V
active=true
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Volt 5 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=+12V
active=true
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Volt 6 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=-12V
active=false
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Volt 7 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=-5V
active=false
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Volt 8 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=+5V
active=false
logged=false
xxx end

xxx Volt 9 from IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
name=Vbat
active=true
logged=false
xxx end


speedfanevents.cfg

[parameters]
CfgVersion=01.0001
EventsVersion=01.0001
[event]
Origin=IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
ReadingIdx=1
SourceType=temp
CheckType=>
CheckValue=45
Action=beep
ActionPar1=
ActionPar2=
AllowEvery=10
VerifiedFor=1
[event]
Origin=IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
ReadingIdx=1
SourceType=temp
CheckType=>
CheckValue=45
Action=popupmsg
ActionPar1=CPU Temp is over 45
ActionPar2=
AllowEvery=10
VerifiedFor=1
[event]
Origin=IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
ReadingIdx=2
SourceType=temp
CheckType=>
CheckValue=45
Action=popupmsg
ActionPar1=MB Temp is over 45
ActionPar2=
AllowEvery=10
VerifiedFor=1
[event]
Origin=IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
ReadingIdx=1
SourceType=volt
CheckType=>=
CheckValue=1.45
Action=beep
ActionPar1=Vcore voltage is at or above 1.3v
ActionPar2=
AllowEvery=10
VerifiedFor=1
[event]
Origin=IT8712F@$290(onISA@$290)
ReadingIdx=1
SourceType=volt
CheckType=>=
CheckValue=1.45
Action=popupmsg
ActionPar1=Vcore voltage is at or above 1.45v
ActionPar2=
AllowEvery=10
VerifiedFor=1
 

Core2

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Now, don't ask me any more questions about speedfan. You used up all of your life lines. Read the help file
 

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Originally posted by: ffallic
Well, tried upping my fsb last night without lowering the multiplier on my e4300. Managed to get into windows with CPU at 3555Mhz and an FSB of 1580! Of course, I need to note that while windows booted and i could do basics it crashed as soon as I ran orthos, but I was expecting that. I was only trying to find out if i could push 400/1600 fsb if I did not lower my multiplier.

I set it to 1600, and it would start posting but then hang... I am sure this is a cpu limitation I am hitting and I did not want to up the vcore to high and fry my chip. Still on stock cooling.

So it would seem I am able to get the FSB I am after, but not if I lower the multiplier. But if I don't lower the multiplier, the CPU can't handle the speed... so if I need a cpu with an 8 x multiplier, would an e4200 help me in this?

Edit: I suppose the chip I am really after here is the e6400, isn't it?
Nothing wrong with the E4300, it's a great bang-for-the-buck chip. You'll apparently need to raise your voltages to get 1600fsb. Have you read the guide on page 92 or looked at the settings in my sig for ideas? There's bios settings gold nuggets there.

There's nothing wrong with running an E4300 at x8 either. On this board your actual northbridge core clocks at x8 should be stable to 1650 (3.3ghz cpu) and a bit beyond. But that northbridge is going to need at least a 1.39v setting in bios.
 

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Resolved. Speed 01 on the speed tab is not the CPU fan speed it would seem. Confusing since I assumed that it would be the same top entry as FAN 1. I ended up setting them all to 25% min and 100% max and it magically started working the way it should.

EDIT: Actually that's wrong. I unchecked all the speeds except speed 1 on each core and unchecked all speeds under the Speed tab except Speed 1 and it's working so having them all enabled was the problem I think. Thanks for the help. Talk about brain frying. I find it easier to understand the overclocking stuff than Speedfans options lol.
 

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Originally posted by: Core2
The 1066 ram is dropping and will continue with DDR3 coming soon.

Actually the price of DDR2 1066 is dropping because yields are improving and capacity is growing. Capacity should increase significantly in 2H07 - I'm hoping I can get some DDR2 1333 by the end of the year (and for decent price). DDR3 won't become a major player till 2009 (remember, DDR3 capable motherboards won't start shipping in quantity till 1Q08 - it will take some time to get DDR3 production to ramp up).

 

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Well just had a BSOD tonight. Guess it wasn't too stable after all. Bummer. I'm tempted to just sell this board, proc and memory and just get one of the 965 boards, an E6400 before they up the cache, and some non OCZ memory, or at least non Promos. Problem is it's difficult for me to tell exactly what's causing the problem without switching out the hardware one piece at a time.

For now I guess I'll just clock back a little bit, see if I can drop the VCore and hope for the best.

 

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Originally posted by: dlxmax
Nothing wrong with the E4300, it's a great bang-for-the-buck chip. You'll apparently need to raise your voltages to get 1600fsb. Have you read the guide on page 92 or looked at the settings in my sig for ideas? There's bios settings gold nuggets there.

There's nothing wrong with running an E4300 at x8 either. On this board your actual northbridge core clocks at x8 should be stable to 1650 (3.3ghz cpu) and a bit beyond. But that northbridge is going to need at least a 1.39v setting in bios.

Don't get me wrong, I do think it's a great chip. Its just that I had my heart set on getting 1600, running 8 x multiplier and memory at 1:1.

But if I use an 8 x multiplier I can only get up to about 1520. So my board might just not be as capable as many of those out there (my typical luck). Hence why a chip with an 8 x might have been better for me.

Not the end of the world though. Have decided to go with 1400 on a 9 x multi giving me 3.15GHz using 1.4 VCore. I might play around with oc'ing my memory once I am sure the CPU is stable at current settings. So far, so good. Temps hanging around mid 40's to 50 at load. Might drop it to an 8 x at these settings until I get better than stock cooling.
 

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Originally posted by: ffallic
But if I use an 8 x multiplier I can only get up to about 1520. So my board might just not be as capable as many of those out there (my typical luck). Hence why a chip with an 8 x might have been better for me.

Not the end of the world though. Have decided to go with 1400 on a 9 x multi giving me 3.15GHz using 1.4 VCore. I might play around with oc'ing my memory once I am sure the CPU is stable at current settings. So far, so good. Temps hanging around mid 40's to 50 at load. Might drop it to an 8 x at these settings until I get better than stock cooling.
I'd fathom that it's your stock cooling that's keeping you back. Using the Intel 775 heatsink and the Asus stock nb heatsink?

Perhaps with a fan on the the NB heatsink, a heatsink on the sb, and a new cpu heatsink you can get to 1600 at x8 and beyond.

I'm pushing mine up, going to test at 1700 x8 now. Hmm.. There must be a strap change at or below 1700 because my memory speeds just TANKED! I'm recording quick tests with mbench and read speeds are about 1 Mb/sec lower compared to 1694. Ick. Time to drop back down and keep testing.... I think 1696 might be the sweet spot before the drop. 1698 isn't as bad as 1700 but not as good as 1696.

So, if you're around the 1700 fsb mark, set it at 1698 instead and your memory performance could improve drastically. I just got a SuperPi of 17.157 at that setting. Now to stabilize.

 

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Well just had a BSOD tonight. Guess it wasn't too stable after all. Bummer. I'm tempted to just sell this board, proc and memory and just get one of the 965 boards, an E6400 before they up the cache, and some non OCZ memory, or at least non Promos. Problem is it's difficult for me to tell exactly what's causing the problem without switching out the hardware one piece at a time.

For now I guess I'll just clock back a little bit, see if I can drop the VCore and hope for the best.

I think its the board holding you back. A lot of people are struggling with the E6600. It is also picky as to the ram that you use. Wait for Gigabyte to come out with their 965 1333FSB support Rev 3 boards it looks promising. Interview with Gigabyte United I wish you the best of luck with what ever choice you make. Your an outstanding person. You have contributed a lot of helpful information and if it wasn't for you this thread would have not been here to help so many others.. I wished you could have had some of the results that we had. Let me know if you go with the Gigabyte maybe we can start a new thread. I'm always up for a new adventure. Core2 out
 

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Originally posted by: Core2
The 1066 ram is dropping and will continue with DDR3 coming soon.

Actually the price of DDR2 1066 is dropping because yields are improving and capacity is growing. Capacity should increase significantly in 2H07 - I'm hoping I can get some DDR2 1333 by the end of the year (and for decent price). DDR3 won't become a major player till 2009 (remember, DDR3 capable motherboards won't start shipping in quantity till 1Q08 - it will take some time to get DDR3 production to ramp up).

Yields yes, quality no. These chips are pretty much maxed out. Higher speeds are achieved through higher voltages and extreme heat spreaders and fans This from Micron's web site.


DDR3 is the memory solution of choice for next-generation, high-performance CPU systems. With DDR3 technology, Micron engineers have pushed the DDR2 envelope in the key areas of power consumption, signaling speeds, and bandwidth to bring new levels of performance to desktop, notebook, and server computing.


Micron's DDR3 products are manufactured on 78nm process technology and are fully compliant with the JEDEC DDR3 specification. They support data rates of 800 MT/s to 1,600 MT/s, with clock frequencies of 400 MHz to 800 MHz, respectively?effectively doubling the speed of DDR2. The DDR3 supply voltage has also been reduced from 1.8V to 1.5V, cutting power consumption by up to 30 percent.


Slated for production in early 2007, Micron's 1Gb DDR3 components will be available in x4, x8, and x16 configurations and will support various module types?FBDIMMs, UDIMMs, SODIMMs, and RDIMMs?and densities from 512MB to 4GB



The boards will not be to far behind. I know I'll be there to jump on them as soon as there available so will a lot of others that enjoy new technology. In my original statement I said soon. I did not mean tommorow.
 

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Try a little better cooling and then increase the vcore some more. For me to get to 3.2GHZ with my 6600 I had to put the NB up to 1.5 and I am not sure what yours is at.
 
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