The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

[Core2]

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
p180 doesnt have that, it still has great airflow though. i lowered my oc to 3.12 and my NB to 1.3v and my timings to 1T and it runs orthos just fine for the last 10 minutes. my cpu never goes over 45. ill let it run an hour and see. maybe ill try faster another day, let the arctic silver make love to my chips for a couple days lol

Those are some good sticks if you can run 1T. That more kick than if you were at 3.4 2T

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
p180 doesnt have that, it still has great airflow though. i lowered my oc to 3.12 and my NB to 1.3v and my timings to 1T and it runs orthos just fine for the last 10 minutes. my cpu never goes over 45. ill let it run an hour and see. maybe ill try faster another day, let the arctic silver make love to my chips for a couple days lol

which orthos are you doing at those timings? have you been able to do super pi with them like that. i'd say those are some great sticks. i cannot do 1t stable. period. i can get into windows but cannot do a successful super pi 1t.

 

[jkcheng122]

<---- SLI man

btw, i broke 9000 when i oc'ed the GT's from 520 (default overclock) to 525mhz and memory to 800mhz with cpu oc'ed to 3.15ghz on 450mhz 1:1 4-4-4-12-2t. looking forward to getting a 8800GTS as i'm not liking the bottom card getting rather hot due to sitting almost right on top of the sound card so air flow isnt very good. i should also note that at 525mhz i see artifacts during the 3dmark06 run in the last game.

as far as nb voltage experiences go, while i was able to reach 450mhz and run a full 3dmark06, when playing wow i was getting frequent crashes and the error seem to be memory related.

i also cannot get my oc to hit over 400mhz w/o upping the nb voltage to 1.59. currently back on 430 now for 3.01ghz cpu speed on the e6300 and 4-4-4-12-2t timings, 1T drops stability to hell even at 5-5-5-15-2t. i did have one freeze at 430mhz which i think may be caused by nb overheating, working on getting some better cooling added to it. still hoping to not have to remove the motherboard to apply better thermal compound.

we just got the mx-1 compound in stock =P gonna order me one home and remove that mobo. pray for me guys, as the last time i took that chipset heatsink off the board would no longer post.

 

[idiotekniQues]

i am a noob cause i didnt know 1T was a big improvement, i just new it was an improvement.

i always run the orthos BLEND mode thinking it was the most stressful. my memory is at 387.5FSB 1:1 ratio @ 4-4-4-15-1T . im gonna try to make the Tras 12 from 15 later.

there is a setting Trc that CPUZ shows. that i have on auto in the bios. but its at 22clocks, is that normal?

ill try super pi after i format my new drive that zipzoom just delivered to me an hour ago.


ill pray for you but i dont think there is anyway to apply compound to the NB without full removal IMO

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: jkcheng122
<---- SLI man

btw, i broke 9000 when i oc'ed the GT's from 520 (default overclock) to 525mhz and memory to 800mhz with cpu oc'ed to 3.15ghz on 450mhz 1:1 4-4-4-12-2t. looking forward to getting a 8800GTS as i'm not liking the bottom card getting rather hot due to sitting almost right on top of the sound card so air flow isnt very good. i should also note that at 525mhz i see artifacts during the 3dmark06 run in the last game.

as far as nb voltage experiences go, while i was able to reach 450mhz and run a full 3dmark06, when playing wow i was getting frequent crashes and the error seem to be memory related.

i also cannot get my oc to hit over 400mhz w/o upping the nb voltage to 1.59. currently back on 430 now for 3.01ghz cpu speed on the e6300 and 4-4-4-12-2t timings, 1T drops stability to hell even at 5-5-5-15-2t. i did have one freeze at 430mhz which i think may be caused by nb overheating, working on getting some better cooling added to it. still hoping to not have to remove the motherboard to apply better thermal compound.

we just got the mx-1 compound in stock =P gonna order me one home and remove that mobo. pray for me guys, as the last time i took that chipset heatsink off the board would no longer post.

thats a fantastic score. your 06 score is almost as good as my 05. and i know 06 is a killer. i think my 6800gt at best got a 1200 and that was with "special" drivers.

our thoughts are with you.

i'm not a fan of the retention system they use for the new intel or the pushpins for the NB. give me some good old fashioned screws i like a retention system that does not allow movement.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: jkcheng122
<---- SLI man

btw, i broke 9000 when i oc'ed the GT's from 520 (default overclock) to 525mhz and memory to 800mhz with cpu oc'ed to 3.15ghz on 450mhz 1:1 4-4-4-12-2t. looking forward to getting a 8800GTS as i'm not liking the bottom card getting rather hot due to sitting almost right on top of the sound card so air flow isnt very good. i should also note that at 525mhz i see artifacts during the 3dmark06 run in the last game.

as far as nb voltage experiences go, while i was able to reach 450mhz and run a full 3dmark06, when playing wow i was getting frequent crashes and the error seem to be memory related.

i also cannot get my oc to hit over 400mhz w/o upping the nb voltage to 1.59. currently back on 430 now for 3.01ghz cpu speed on the e6300 and 4-4-4-12-2t timings, 1T drops stability to hell even at 5-5-5-15-2t. i did have one freeze at 430mhz which i think may be caused by nb overheating, working on getting some better cooling added to it. still hoping to not have to remove the motherboard to apply better thermal compound.

we just got the mx-1 compound in stock =P gonna order me one home and remove that mobo. pray for me guys, as the last time i took that chipset heatsink off the board would no longer post.

SLI Man
Yea, I like that. Throw that sound card away and use the on board. If you use the coax output and set it to DTS in the setup and connect it to a DTS converter it sounds great. Don't touch that heatsink and buy one of those cheap fans or your going to be NO MOBO MAN. The thing is soooo quiet Cheap and easy to fasten

Its Friday night where we going and who's buying the first GB of ram????

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
i am a noob cause i didnt know 1T was a big improvement, i just new it was an improvement.

i always run the orthos BLEND mode thinking it was the most stressful. my memory is at 387.5FSB 1:1 ratio @ 4-4-4-15-1T . im gonna try to make the Tras 12 from 15 later.

there is a setting Trc that CPUZ shows. that i have on auto in the bios. but its at 22clocks, is that normal?

ill try super pi after i format my new drive that zipzoom just delivered to me an hour ago.


ill pray for you but i dont think there is anyway to apply compound to the NB without full removal IMO

you can get about a 10% memory bandwidth increase by going from 2t to 1t with all other settings the same. pretty good for a 1 timing adjustment.

and if you can do the orthos blend that is definitely stable.

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: jkcheng122
<---- SLI man

btw, i broke 9000 when i oc'ed the GT's from 520 (default overclock) to 525mhz and memory to 800mhz with cpu oc'ed to 3.15ghz on 450mhz 1:1 4-4-4-12-2t. looking forward to getting a 8800GTS as i'm not liking the bottom card getting rather hot due to sitting almost right on top of the sound card so air flow isnt very good. i should also note that at 525mhz i see artifacts during the 3dmark06 run in the last game.

as far as nb voltage experiences go, while i was able to reach 450mhz and run a full 3dmark06, when playing wow i was getting frequent crashes and the error seem to be memory related.

i also cannot get my oc to hit over 400mhz w/o upping the nb voltage to 1.59. currently back on 430 now for 3.01ghz cpu speed on the e6300 and 4-4-4-12-2t timings, 1T drops stability to hell even at 5-5-5-15-2t. i did have one freeze at 430mhz which i think may be caused by nb overheating, working on getting some better cooling added to it. still hoping to not have to remove the motherboard to apply better thermal compound.

we just got the mx-1 compound in stock =P gonna order me one home and remove that mobo. pray for me guys, as the last time i took that chipset heatsink off the board would no longer post.

SLI Man
Yea, I like that. Throw that sound card away and use the on board. If you use the coax output and set it to DTS in the setup and connect it to a DTS converter it sounds great. Don't touch that heatsink and buy one of those cheap fans or your going to be NO MOBO MAN. The thing is soooo quiet Cheap and easy to fasten

Its Friday night where we going and who's buying the first GB of ram????

I'm going for 4.0ghz. wish me luck

 

[Core2]

I'm going for 4.0ghz. wish me luck

You got some dry Ice

 

[jkcheng122]

Originally posted by: Core2
I'm going for 4.0ghz. wish me luck

You got some dry Ice

need some balls of steel and fat wallet too to pull that off.

john, are u saying i shouldnt bother with reapplying paste and just attach a fan will be sufficient? i was thinking of doing both.

 

[jkcheng122]

Originally posted by: Core2
SLI Man
Yea, I like that. Throw that sound card away and use the on board. If you use the coax output and set it to DTS in the setup and connect it to a DTS converter it sounds great. Don't touch that heatsink and buy one of those cheap fans or your going to be NO MOBO MAN. The thing is soooo quiet Cheap and easy to fasten

Its Friday night where we going and who's buying the first GB of ram????

toss an x-fi aside? u gotta be kidding me. though i do have the logitech z-680 system which has onboard decoding for dd and dts and accepts coax and optical connectors. worth a shot i think, but when i heard the differences between the two on the analog connects of the MB vs x-fi analog, x-fi wins by a mile in sound quality. eventually i'll be the 8800 guy instead of the sli guy perhaps.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: jkcheng122

Originally posted by: Core2
I'm going for 4.0ghz. wish me luck

You got some dry Ice

need some balls of steel and fat wallet too to pull that off.

john, are u saying i shouldnt bother with reapplying paste and just attach a fan will be sufficient? i was thinking of doing both.

Yes, yes and don't do it
Since I added that fan and with the case cooling I have it hast gone over 114f

 

[Core2]

I can hear Ryan taking out that battery. I hope he had a lolly pop stick

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: Core2
I can hear Ryan taking out that battery. I hope he had a lolly pop stick

haha, writing to you from the land of 3.7

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: jkcheng122

Originally posted by: Core2
I'm going for 4.0ghz. wish me luck

You got some dry Ice

need some balls of steel and fat wallet too to pull that off.

john, are u saying i shouldnt bother with reapplying paste and just attach a fan will be sufficient? i was thinking of doing both.

ok. here's the scoop. more like nads of copper. lol

3.7 seems to be my max. got voltage up to 1.56 without being able to fully boot into windows and I chickened out. since i know i can do 3.7 comfortably i'm chngin gears and going for max fsb.

i'll go back to try for 4.0 when i get an e4400

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: adder1971

Originally posted by: jkcheng122

Originally posted by: Core2
I'm going for 4.0ghz. wish me luck

You got some dry Ice

need some balls of steel and fat wallet too to pull that off.

john, are u saying i shouldnt bother with reapplying paste and just attach a fan will be sufficient? i was thinking of doing both.

ok. here's the scoop. more like nads of copper. lol

3.7 seems to be my max. got voltage up to 1.56 without being able to fully boot into windows and I chickened out. since i know i can do 3.7 comfortably i'm chngin gears and going for max fsb.

i'll go back to try for 4.0 when i get an e4400

I think you get a kick out of those high numbers. You probably just sit there with 5 cpuz's open and watch the numbers change

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: adder1971

Originally posted by: jkcheng122

Originally posted by: Core2
I'm going for 4.0ghz. wish me luck

You got some dry Ice

need some balls of steel and fat wallet too to pull that off.

john, are u saying i shouldnt bother with reapplying paste and just attach a fan will be sufficient? i was thinking of doing both.

ok. here's the scoop. more like nads of copper. lol

3.7 seems to be my max. got voltage up to 1.56 without being able to fully boot into windows and I chickened out. since i know i can do 3.7 comfortably i'm chngin gears and going for max fsb.

i'll go back to try for 4.0 when i get an e4400

I think you get a kick out of those high numbers. You probably just sit there with 5 cpuz's open and watch the numbers change

lol, i wish. i'm kinda old school. i change it in bios and watch it do the rebootsky dance. i ned to change the vcore and fsb in windows so i can see what the instability is. i know its not my temps. they arent to high to cause a reboot.

 

[mordrid52]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: mordrid52

Originally posted by: aintitthelife98

Originally posted by: jkcheng122

Originally posted by: aintitthelife98
what do you all think of using something like this to blow air on the northbridge heatsink?

http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=75018#

Also, I read here to use the black slots when running two sticks of ram to help stability. Well when I did it caused all kinds of stability problems. My system has been a lot more stable running sticks right next to each other (1 black, 1 yellow). Am I missing something or doing something wrong?

This thread has been amazing so thanks to everyone for all the help and suggestions.

from what i understand, if u run different colors slots, u're not running them in dual channel mode.

Ya thats what I figured as well but when I tried to run in just the black slots stability went out the window. I couldn't get anything to work well.

I'm having the same problem with my board. I've tried three different sets of 2x1GB memory and it will not run in dual-channel mode without massive instability. It doesn't matter what timings, speed, or voltages the memory is set to and it does it in both the yellow and black slots. However, the board is rock solid if I run the memory in single-channel.

That one has me stumped. Where did you purchase your board. Maybe they will give you an exchange You can call Asus and see what they say I'm sure there aware of whats going on
See if its running in 1T on your ram timings in duel channel. May have to clear the bios then and reset your timings manually

How bizarre. When I booted into Windows in dual-channel mode, CPUZ showed the memory as still being at 2T. I went into the BIOS and changed the settings from AUTO to 2T for the memory and now it is running fine in the black slots. I guess the BIOS was secretly clocking the memory to 1T and then lying about it.

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: mordrid52

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: mordrid52

Originally posted by: aintitthelife98

Originally posted by: jkcheng122

Originally posted by: aintitthelife98
what do you all think of using something like this to blow air on the northbridge heatsink?

http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=75018#

Also, I read here to use the black slots when running two sticks of ram to help stability. Well when I did it caused all kinds of stability problems. My system has been a lot more stable running sticks right next to each other (1 black, 1 yellow). Am I missing something or doing something wrong?

This thread has been amazing so thanks to everyone for all the help and suggestions.

from what i understand, if u run different colors slots, u're not running them in dual channel mode.

Ya thats what I figured as well but when I tried to run in just the black slots stability went out the window. I couldn't get anything to work well.

I'm having the same problem with my board. I've tried three different sets of 2x1GB memory and it will not run in dual-channel mode without massive instability. It doesn't matter what timings, speed, or voltages the memory is set to and it does it in both the yellow and black slots. However, the board is rock solid if I run the memory in single-channel.

That one has me stumped. Where did you purchase your board. Maybe they will give you an exchange You can call Asus and see what they say I'm sure there aware of whats going on
See if its running in 1T on your ram timings in duel channel. May have to clear the bios then and reset your timings manually

How bizarre. When I booted into Windows in dual-channel mode, CPUZ showed the memory as still being at 2T. I went into the BIOS and changed the settings from AUTO to 2T for the memory and now it is running fine in the black slots. I guess the BIOS was secretly clocking the memory to 1T and then lying about it.

your not kidding that is bizarre.

 

[Core2]

[
How bizarre. When I booted into Windows in dual-channel mode, CPUZ showed the memory as still being at 2T. I went into the BIOS and changed the settings from AUTO to 2T for the memory and now it is running fine in the black slots. I guess the BIOS was secretly clocking the memory to 1T and then lying about it.[/quote]

your not kidding that is bizarre.[/quote]

Good to hear, now list your system and all your settings in your signature and your an Official Member
Ryan, sign um up

 

[Core2]

Ryan,
You have the late shift tonight with SLI Man if you can find him.
Good luck!
Talk to you all tomorrow

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: Core2
Ryan,
You have the late shift tonight with SLI Man if you can find him.
Good luck!
Talk to you all tomorrow

catch ya later john. we'll hold down the fort. as long as i dont cook anything first.

later

 

[SP8]

It sounds like this board would work well with liquid cooling. I got to order a kit. I'm taking everyones advice and doing a fresh OS install. I'll just buy another HD, and a new XP disk. I would feel like a ass telling MS support someone installed my XP on another computer, and changed the CD key without my permission.

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: SP8
It sounds like this board would work well with liquid cooling. I got to order a kit. I'm taking everones advice and doing a fresh OS install. I'll just buy another HD, and a new XP disk. I would feel like a ass telling MS support someone installed my XP on another computer, and changed the CD key without my permission.

i think liquid cooling would be a good idea. i know mine can do higher than 3.7. i just get nervous when im up to 1.45v and +.100mv and it just keeps rebooting at 3.8. some guys on extremesystems.org have gotten to 3.9 with an e6400. this is one heck of a board for the price. being able to run mem completely separate of fsb and lowering multi is in no other board at this price that i am aware of.

 

[jkcheng122]

Originally posted by: Core2
SLI Man
Yea, I like that. Throw that sound card away and use the on board. If you use the coax output and set it to DTS in the setup and connect it to a DTS converter it sounds great. Don't touch that heatsink and buy one of those cheap fans or your going to be NO MOBO MAN. The thing is soooo quiet Cheap and easy to fasten

Its Friday night where we going and who's buying the first GB of ram????

okay, sound card is sitting outside atm with the coax hooked up from mobo to control pod on the speaker system. but when i run a test in Realtek HD Control Panel, only the front 2 channels have sound. i dont think this board features onboard encoding (dd live and dts connect).

correct me if i'm wrong, cuz if i can't have digital sound in anything other than movies, i must have the x-fi back in.