The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

[Core2]

Quote by AZDude

Yesterday I ordered a NB HSF, and HS for the SB from Newegg. While I was there I checked to see if they had any MX-1. They had it in stock, so on Core 2's high recommendations, I picked up a tube. I should have tuesday or wednesday. I'll be sure to report how much of a change I see in my temps

You have the Freezer7 Pro it had come already applied with MX-1. Did you take it off and put AS 5 instead. I just don't like the way they put it on at the factory. They put on way to much.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
a car is not a good comparison to a cpu. one is solid state the other is a myriad of moving parts.

i do a lot of cpu intensive work. try burning some dvds, you will use 100% of both cores most of the time if nothing else is running. i game. i also take many pictures in raw format and run them thru filters and convert them.

i like to do these things while still using my computer and not having to wait till it is done to work on a document, browse the web, have my tv tuner going, etc.

so yes, i use these clock cycles. and that is why it is fun to me to run orthos and bang it out perfectly so i know it will do all of these things and not screw up. otherwise what is the point of being fast?

if all i was going to do is low intensive stuff, id probably just save my money and spend it on something else besides a core2 setup with 800mhz ram knowing full well that i was going to OC it. isnt that why we buy this stuff?

One is RPMS the other MHz if you run either beyond the manufactures safe running environment whats going to happen? Failure at some point or another. If you want stable higher clock cycles than go with a CPU built for it. That is what the X6800 or Q6600 XQ6700 is for

 

[idiotekniQues]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
a car is not a good comparison to a cpu. one is solid state the other is a myriad of moving parts.

i do a lot of cpu intensive work. try burning some dvds, you will use 100% of both cores most of the time if nothing else is running. i game. i also take many pictures in raw format and run them thru filters and convert them.

i like to do these things while still using my computer and not having to wait till it is done to work on a document, browse the web, have my tv tuner going, etc.

so yes, i use these clock cycles. and that is why it is fun to me to run orthos and bang it out perfectly so i know it will do all of these things and not screw up. otherwise what is the point of being fast?

if all i was going to do is low intensive stuff, id probably just save my money and spend it on something else besides a core2 setup with 800mhz ram knowing full well that i was going to OC it. isnt that why we buy this stuff?

One is RPMS the other MHz if you run either beyond the manufactures safe running environment whats going to happen? Failure at some point or another. If you want stable higher clock cycles than go with a CPU built for it. That is what the X6800 is for

again, comparing cpu's to cars is not a good comparison. at all. rpm is the same as mhz? not at all. that is like saying well, apples are like oranges.

why should i buy the x6800 when i can be careful oc this chip and ram and be just as stable and safe?

i dont buy your logic at all. oc'ing is not just for looking at pretty numbers, it can also be for actually getting usable performance without destroying your equipment.

 

[Genuine Imitation]

Hey guys I've been following this thread this week while I waited for my new components to come in. So I built the system in my sig last night and its running this morning. Its kind of a temporary build until I rework my watercooling next week. So I won't start overclocking till then.

In terms of southbridge cooling, I do know that the evercool does NOT fit without major modifications, which was too bad, I like that little copper cooler on my DFI SLI-D, it had rpm monitoring and undervolted well. So I'm probly going with a vantec cooler on it and a 60mm fan on the nb after I get my watercooling and SLI into my case.

So right now I'm currently formatting my other hard drive and then I'll start dropping all my data back onto it. After that comes the fun stuff, replumbing, stress testing and pushing it further than my old opty 170 could ever go. Can't hardly wait to let the 6600 and the ballistix loose to stretch their legs! I'll probly be around next week alot after I get the WC in cause the hardocp forums aren't real talkative about this board, kinda sad.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
my 1t handlin mobo is going back. if anybody wants it bid to me by tomorra night.

Then tell me why you had to send your board back and mine is still running and I'm not going to sit hear and agrue with you. You do what you feel you have to do. There are people here new to overclocking and I would like them to enjoy what they have purchased and not have it go up in smoke in a week. End of discussion

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: Genuine Imitation
Hey guys I've been following this thread this week while I waited for my new components to come in. So I built the system in my sig last night and its running this morning. Its kind of a temporary build until I rework my watercooling next week. So I won't start overclocking till then.

In terms of southbridge cooling, I do know that the evercool does NOT fit without major modifications, which was too bad, I like that little copper cooler on my DFI SLI-D, it had rpm monitoring and undervolted well. So I'm probly going with a vantec cooler on it and a 60mm fan on the nb after I get my watercooling and SLI into my case.

So right now I'm currently formatting my other hard drive and then I'll start dropping all my data back onto it. After that comes the fun stuff, replumbing, stress testing and pushing it further than my old opty 170 could ever go. Can't hardly wait to let the 6600 and the ballistix loose to stretch their legs! I'll probly be around next week alot after I get the WC in cause the hardocp forums aren't real talkative about this board, kinda sad.

Welcome Aboard Genuine Imitation
You experience in water-cooling will be a good for all us air coolers looking forward to your posts

 

[idiotekniQues]

lol i had to rma my board because of my oc? my board gave me all my issues BEFORE I EVEN TOUCHED THE speed of anything or touched spec. it wouldnt transfer data before i went to OC it.

and after of course, but the oc had nothing to do with this nice try. you are not very good at debating this because you are now making stuff up about why my board is being rma'd. not very honest of you core2, but telling that you have nothing left to debate with and result to misrepresentations of the facts.

i dont push my stuff to stupid limits. you can see me argue that an ocing guide people are linking to is irresponsible because it tells people to kick up their voltages to very high levels from the get go. i have argued for only using as much voltage as u need. so dont tell me i break my stuff when you know it isnt true. i ran a p4 on an asus board oc'd for 4 years and it still runs. why? cause i dont treat my parts like expendable things.

now telling people that their things will go up in smoke in a week because they test with orthos is just a fairy tale. try to be honest with the people you help if you want to propose that something is bad for theml. some people are actually going to use their systems quite rigorously for applications and/or gaming , and if it isnt stable then that isnt good either for them. being able to test for stability under load can be very useful. not verybody buys 2 expensive systems and oc'ing ram to just look at pretty numbers.

there is a way to test without messing up your board - which is the result one will get according to what you are proposing with this up in smoke gibberish. ill leave this discussion as well. i said my opinion on this matter.

 

[Genuine Imitation]

Hey guys should I be worrying about mosfet cooling on this board? I'll be watercooling so I'm thinking of getting some sinks for them. I'm counting maybe 6 behind the parallel port and maybe 3 more along the edge of the board, anyone know how hot they get?

 

[idiotekniQues]

ive never really seen a mosfet related heat-issue irecently, and i have been browsing the heck out of forums for the last 2 months prior and during my new build. getting some of those little cute heatsinks cant hurt though, as long as they dont get in the way of a large cooling solution on the cpu - but i really think they arent necessary on this board.

 

[AZDude]

Originally posted by: Core2
Quote by AZDude

Yesterday I ordered a NB HSF, and HS for the SB from Newegg. While I was there I checked to see if they had any MX-1. They had it in stock, so on Core 2's high recommendations, I picked up a tube. I should have tuesday or wednesday. I'll be sure to report how much of a change I see in my temps

You have the Freezer7 Pro it had come already applied with MX-1. Did you take it off and put AS 5 instead. I just don't like the way they put it on at the factory. They put on way to much.

Yea, I took it off. I was having trouble with he board when I first built it. Thought it was a processor problem, so I had taken the freezer pro off. When I put it back on I used AS 5. Turned out I can only run my ram in the black slots.

I tried putting them in the yellow slots again yesterday and I can't even boot. And I read earlier on the board, some one was talking about the slots being messed up. I have my ram in the black slots and all programs show my ram in Dual Channel and report the right amount.

 

[Rytr]

I took it off the Feezer 7, guess I should have left it on. Anyway, I applied AS5 like usual and temps after an hour of Orthos was 38C (Probe II) with stock settings at 2.4GHz. I will be putting the system in a P160 which has two heat probes running from a front panel on the case that have so far been accurate in use.
Core2 you have been very helpful as the rest of the guys have...guess I will order and try some of the MX-1.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: Genuine Imitation
Hey guys should I be worrying about mosfet cooling on this board? I'll be watercooling so I'm thinking of getting some sinks for them. I'm counting maybe 6 behind the parallel port and maybe 3 more along the edge of the board, anyone know how hot they get?

I have a ThermoHawk 200 what speed do you wants those temps at Default or oc'ed I check everything in the case once before and didn't find any alarming temperatures other then the NB and SB but I can check again

 

[dlxmax]

If the mosets are burning hot at your current speed, then yes, cool them. Cooling them could then lead to stability at higher speeds. After all, the mobo does have a marked outline for the heatsink! It's not like you're try to cool a BIOS chip.

MX-1 is interesting stuff. Every day since my build I've noticed both my GPU and CPU temps going down by a degree or more.

Time to Orthos the system and go to sleep. I hope it's still running when I wake up, but I doubt it will be. Probably need to crank up the vcore some more.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: AZDude

Originally posted by: Core2
Quote by AZDude

Yesterday I ordered a NB HSF, and HS for the SB from Newegg. While I was there I checked to see if they had any MX-1. They had it in stock, so on Core 2's high recommendations, I picked up a tube. I should have tuesday or wednesday. I'll be sure to report how much of a change I see in my temps

You have the Freezer7 Pro it had come already applied with MX-1. Did you take it off and put AS 5 instead. I just don't like the way they put it on at the factory. They put on way to much.

Yea, I took it off. I was having trouble with he board when I first built it. Thought it was a processor problem, so I had taken the freezer pro off. When I put it back on I used AS 5. Turned out I can only run my ram in the black slots.

I tried putting them in the yellow slots again yesterday and I can't even boot. And I read earlier on the board, some one was talking about the slots being messed up. I have my ram in the black slots and all programs show my ram in Dual Channel and report the right amount.

Try the 401 bios and see if that helps. Just be careful and always flash in the bios not Windows. Clear the CMOS after flashing.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: Rytr
I took it off the Feezer 7, guess I should have left it on. Anyway, I applied AS5 like usual and temps after an hour of Orthos was 38C (Probe II) with stock settings at 2.4GHz. I will be putting the system in a P160 which has two heat probes running from a front panel on the case that have so far been accurate in use.
Core2 you have been very helpful as the rest of the guys have...guess I will order and try some of the MX-1.

That a pretty good temp you have there. I would wait until your temps get annoyingly high and then make the change.

 

[aintitthelife98]

Being that I work on cars as my other hobby I can speak to car break in actually pretty well. There are actually a lot of engine builders and enthusiasts who subscribe to the theory of running an engine very hard from the start to break it in appropriately and there is data to support it. I am friends with a few drag race teams and every time they complete a new engine it immediately is driven at high rpm's to ensure proper piston seal and cylinder wall break in.

At the end of the day, theres evidence to support a slow break in and a hard break in and I think the same can be said with computers. Do what you feel comfortable with and like but I don't think running orthos from day one will break your computer. I've had my system running orthos, prime95 or some other intesive programs everday since i've had it and I've had no issues.

No need to argue. To each their own.

 

[Genuine Imitation]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: Genuine Imitation
Hey guys should I be worrying about mosfet cooling on this board? I'll be watercooling so I'm thinking of getting some sinks for them. I'm counting maybe 6 behind the parallel port and maybe 3 more along the edge of the board, anyone know how hot they get?

I have a ThermoHawk 200 what speed do you wants those temps at Default or oc'ed I check everything in the case once before and didn't find any alarming temperatures other then the NB and SB but I can check again

Yeah I've love to see some oc'ed temps on load, this pc is gonna run 24/7 with folding at home and gaming too. Thanks

 

[jkcheng122]

GImitation,

"eVGA 7800GT - SLI coming soon"
assuming u're even able to find a 7800GT outside of eBay, how much would one of those cost? wouldn't be more practical to sell your currnet 7800GT and go for the 8800GTS which will be directx10 compliant and can outperform two 7800GTs in SLI. There's also a 320MB version in the works due out in Feb which supposedly will be priced at sub $300.

 

[AZDude]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: AZDude

Originally posted by: Core2
Quote by AZDude

Yesterday I ordered a NB HSF, and HS for the SB from Newegg. While I was there I checked to see if they had any MX-1. They had it in stock, so on Core 2's high recommendations, I picked up a tube. I should have tuesday or wednesday. I'll be sure to report how much of a change I see in my temps

You have the Freezer7 Pro it had come already applied with MX-1. Did you take it off and put AS 5 instead. I just don't like the way they put it on at the factory. They put on way to much.

Yea, I took it off. I was having trouble with he board when I first built it. Thought it was a processor problem, so I had taken the freezer pro off. When I put it back on I used AS 5. Turned out I can only run my ram in the black slots.

I tried putting them in the yellow slots again yesterday and I can't even boot. And I read earlier on the board, some one was talking about the slots being messed up. I have my ram in the black slots and all programs show my ram in Dual Channel and report the right amount.

Try the 401 bios and see if that helps. Just be careful and always flash in the bios not Windows. Clear the CMOS after flashing.

I'll give it a shot later, after I finish all my honey-dos.

 

[Genuine Imitation]

Originally posted by: jkcheng122
GImitation,

"eVGA 7800GT - SLI coming soon"
assuming u're even able to find a 7800GT outside of eBay, how much would one of those cost? wouldn't be more practical to sell your currnet 7800GT and go for the 8800GTS which will be directx10 compliant and can outperform two 7800GTs in SLI. There's also a 320MB version in the works due out in Feb which supposedly will be priced at sub $300.

Oh see that's the beauty of it, I've already have the second card My old setup went something like this...

Opty 170 - disappointing overclocker
2gigs OCZ Gold DDR500 -ran 1:1 with the opty
DFI SLI-D
2x eVGA 7800GT's in SLI
bla bla bla

The original 7800 is watercooled, then the second I left on air cause I bought it with a AC silencer already installed off ebay for a steal at like 140 shipped last June!

So right now I've got all my WC waiting to be cleaned and replumbed. So instead of putting the stock air cooler back on the other 7800, its sitting in its antistatic bag. Once the WC is ready, SLI goodness will be back to stay.

That story is the whole reason I ended up going with this board, the 680i's are just WAY overpriced and I don't need the extra features anyway. I wasn't even planning on buying till I found the ballistix with a rebate at zzf that I couldn't pass up, then found this board at clubit on sale for 125 during last week's 8 hour sale. So I moved to core 2 and kept my SLI and got micron based memory which should clock very well.

 

[Bateluer]

Are there any fans that can be easily mounted on the Asus NB heatsink? I plan on sticking the little cooler master cooler mentioned earlier on the SB, but I'd heard a number of people talking about how the NB heat sink gets pretty toasty. I was looking at the Scythe minikaze, but Newegg has no pics of the mounting mechanism. Some of the newegg reviews, for what those are good for, mention plastic clips?

 

[aintitthelife98]

Originally posted by: Bateluer
Are there any fans that can be easily mounted on the Asus NB heatsink? I plan on sticking the little cooler master cooler mentioned earlier on the SB, but I'd heard a number of people talking about how the NB heat sink gets pretty toasty. I was looking at the Scythe minikaze, but Newegg has no pics of the mounting mechanism. Some of the newegg reviews, for what those are good for, mention plastic clips?

if you have a spare 40mm or 50mm fan sitting around you can do what I did:

http://home.comcast.net/~chriswpark/Pics/nbcooling.jpg

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: Bateluer
Are there any fans that can be easily mounted on the Asus NB heatsink? I plan on sticking the little cooler master cooler mentioned earlier on the SB, but I'd heard a number of people talking about how the NB heat sink gets pretty toasty. I was looking at the Scythe minikaze, but Newegg has no pics of the mounting mechanism. Some of the newegg reviews, for what those are good for, mention plastic clips?

The SB doesn't need a fan (heatsink is more than enough) so when you get the cooler master heatsink and fan. Put the heatsink on the SB and use the fan for the NB

Edit: these fans are great too
Scythe SY124010L Fans

 

[Nevets Drassel]

Originally posted by: Bateluer
Are there any fans that can be easily mounted on the Asus NB heatsink? I plan on sticking the little cooler master cooler mentioned earlier on the SB, but I'd heard a number of people talking about how the NB heat sink gets pretty toasty. I was looking at the Scythe minikaze, but Newegg has no pics of the mounting mechanism. Some of the newegg reviews, for what those are good for, mention plastic clips?

On this board, I would go with the Thermalright HR-05 for HR-05 SLI. I have the SLI on the NB and it works great. I put a fan on it that I had lying around until I get my quiet fan.

See here: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/slessard/DSCN0277.jpg

I mounted the fan on the CPU side of the HR-05 SLI and it blows toward the VGA card.

On a side note to all, I have found that you getter better OC results if you do not use the headers on the motherboard to support your fans. Use the CPU one only.

Currently at 3520 (440 X 8) 408.6 FSB

VCore 1.4
NB 1.5
MEM 2.5 (4-4-4-12 2T)
14:13 ratio (who would of thunk that this was possible?)


Here is the setup for the NB: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/slessard/DSCN0281.jpg

Here is my current OC: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/slessard/3520.jpg

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: Genuine Imitation

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: Genuine Imitation
Hey guys should I be worrying about mosfet cooling on this board? I'll be watercooling so I'm thinking of getting some sinks for them. I'm counting maybe 6 behind the parallel port and maybe 3 more along the edge of the board, anyone know how hot they get?

I have a ThermoHawk 200 what speed do you wants those temps at Default or oc'ed I check everything in the case once before and didn't find any alarming temperatures other then the NB and SB but I can check again

Yeah I've love to see some oc'ed temps on load, this pc is gonna run 24/7 with folding at home and gaming too. Thanks

Sorry Genuine Imitation
I couldn't get close enough to get an accurate temp. The HSF surrounds the area and I can't get my hand in close enough to single out one from the other temps in that area were 115F at 431x8. Not to bad considering the NB was about 150F without a fan on it