Originally posted by: adder1971
i am pretty sure it depends on the size requested. the smaller ones run more in the cache, larger ones on combi system mem and cache.
Originally posted by: Nevets Drassel
Originally posted by: adder1971
i am pretty sure it depends on the size requested. the smaller ones run more in the cache, larger ones on combi system mem and cache.
Then using this as a baseline, if you change memory timings for your memory to lower settings, it would show in the SuperPi time if the memory is used.
Example:
If running identical memory and SuperPi 1M at timings of 5-5-5-15 results in a 17 sec solution and then changing the timings to 4-4-4-12 results in the same 17 sec solution, then is it safe to assume that in these cases that SuperPi was run exclusively in the CPU cache and no memory or HD were used?
Originally posted by: chizow
Ok, so the Crucial Ballistix PC-8000 I have run fine at 500MHz and 5-5-5-15 2T. As suggested, I ran FSB and Memory unlinked @ 375:500 or 3:4. I tried running them linked and dropping my multiplier but I guess the FSB was the limiting factor. I'd like to run my FSB faster though, some of the comments I've seen indicate this board or memory seems to have problems running at exactly 400MHz FSB, but adjusting a few MHz up or down works fine. What are you guys using @400MHz? 398 or 402 or something? I'll try and push the memory a bit more and play with the timings a bit after I update the BIOS, but they do run @ 500MHz at spec'd timings with no problems.
Originally posted by: Genuine Imitation
Originally posted by: Nevets Drassel
Originally posted by: adder1971
i am pretty sure it depends on the size requested. the smaller ones run more in the cache, larger ones on combi system mem and cache.
Then using this as a baseline, if you change memory timings for your memory to lower settings, it would show in the SuperPi time if the memory is used.
Example:
If running identical memory and SuperPi 1M at timings of 5-5-5-15 results in a 17 sec solution and then changing the timings to 4-4-4-12 results in the same 17 sec solution, then is it safe to assume that in these cases that SuperPi was run exclusively in the CPU cache and no memory or HD were used?
Is it giving you decimal times like 17.123 or just 17 seconds? If its only 17 and no decimal measurement, you'll need to go get the super pi mod from xtremesystems. Core2 posted the differences in memory timings as it relates to super pi times a couple posts back.
And to answer your question, yes most likely, but i can't test any theories till tomorrow.
Originally posted by: miles267
Since upgrading my P5N-E SLI bios last night from 0202 to 0401, my system will not boot Vista x86 with default BIOS setting, only boots in Safe Mode. Am going to attempt to force the downgrade back to 0202 w/ AWDFLASH utility this evening.
Note that I first upgraded from 0202 to 0307, encountered same blue screens or freezes during Vista x86 boot-up. Was able to downgrade from 0307 back to 0202. However since upgrading from 0202 to 0401, I now cannot downgrade back to 0202. I'm certian my system will be stable on 0202 if I can find a way back.
Lastly, I think my issue has to do w/ my RAM becoming unstable in the newer 0401 BIOS and wondered how (or where) to change the memory speed in BIOS for my PC? Currently using all BIOS defaults. Perhaps if I go from 800 mhz to 667 mhz on my Corsair XMS RAM, it could also address issue. Wanted to try it.
Has anyone else experienced similar issues? I'd prefer to stay with the current 0401 BIOS but can't pinpoint what is making system suddenly unstable. Using CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Memory (TWIN2X2048-6400C4) listed in ASUS P5N-E SLI recommended memory in manual.
Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thank you!
Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
getting a gigabyte DQ6 mobo has been a blessing for me in that everything is running excellent, but sad cause there are virtually no threads about it anywhere to talk about oc'ing and stuff
but i do have an e6400 so i can share notes on these chips and ocz plat. rev. 2 ram
with the little time i had yesterday i ran this puppy at 3.6ghz and did super.pi in just over 16.2 seconds. if i loosen my memory timings from 4-4-4-12 i know this ram will goto 900mhz (promos chips not microns) at 5-5-5-15 so ill see if can get this chip to higher speeds and get closer to 16 seconds flat. i think it has more headroom. 3.6 was at 1.4v in bios.
these e6400's are insane
http://athos.smugmug.com/photos/125354590-L.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=160654
Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
yeah it was 50 bucks more than the p5n-e. you cant beat the p5ne-sli for feature to price ratio IMO. all you need to do is spend less than 20 bucks for some extra coolin on the NB/SB if you want to OC more than a little 24/7. id recommend that board to anybody that asked for a recommendation in that price range.
a lot of the crap on the dq6 is just marketing gimmicks, quad this quad that yada yada (they count the bios on the hard drive and the bios on the cd as 2 of the quad bios LOL)
it has some good stuff ill use like the 8 sata ports. ill probably use at least 6 of them by the end of the summer. other than that the extensive cooling built in is pretty nice but to be honest, it doesnt work all that great. that nb gets hot as heck on the gigabyte. id rather have the p5ne-sli with my TT hr-05 on it.
but whatever mobo you have, these core2's are kicking ass and taking names.
and i have to say, if you are on a budget for ram, save 60 bucks and get the ocz platinum rev. 2 - easily get you to 450+fsb @ 1:1. ocz says you should get 900mhz @ 5-5-5-15 timings @ 2.1v
after rebate they are $210
Originally posted by: Core2
Are you still using the 0202 bios. I never had problems with 400x8 at default voltages. I had problems in the 419 - 422 area 0401 fixed that and I can go from 400 - 485 with no lock ups. I do have to increase voltages quite a bit as I reach the higher FSB
Edit: I ran my memory in the 1020 -1040 range yesterday and the NB was over heating. I think 1020 is max on air or you need exceptional cooling on the NB
Originally posted by: chizow
Originally posted by: Core2
Are you still using the 0202 bios. I never had problems with 400x8 at default voltages. I had problems in the 419 - 422 area 0401 fixed that and I can go from 400 - 485 with no lock ups. I do have to increase voltages quite a bit as I reach the higher FSB
Edit: I ran my memory in the 1020 -1040 range yesterday and the NB was over heating. I think 1020 is max on air or you need exceptional cooling on the NB
Ya, still using the 0202 bios, I've always had a phobia about flashing my BIOS unnecessarily and I'm kind of a dinosaur in the sense that I haven't bought a USB pen drive yet.
I couldn't get 400x8 linked, the only stable 1:1 I was able to achieve was 375:375, so i dropped it back down to 375:500 which was my previous highest stable FSB with an 8x multiplier and I've had no problems running 3DMark06 looped overnight. I'm pretty sure I tried 400:500 unlinked and my PC didn't POST. I think one of the reviews said "398 worked, 400 didn't" with some of the older BIOS revisions. I guess I'll try to bump it up a little bit tonite and hit the 3.2-3.5GHz goal I had in mind when I spec'd out this build.
Originally posted by: Core2
Nevets Drassel
Were you the one that when pulling out one of your SATA wires and pulled out the SATA socket too. Might want to check that. I have heard of CPU degradation from overclocking over time. This chip is fairly new right?
Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
did you try 401 or 402 fsb?
also, it may be your chip - check the week and version your chip is and compare it to others on the web.
Originally posted by: Core2
The next memory strap starts at 425 Try that should work with 1.35 vcore 1.39 NB and spec for your ram 2.08 - 2.17
Edit: I had to step over those memory holes too when I was using 0202 Once I knew where they were it was a breeze to overclock. I was even using ClockGen and it would work as long as I stayed away from the memory holes
Originally posted by: chizow
Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
did you try 401 or 402 fsb?
also, it may be your chip - check the week and version your chip is and compare it to others on the web.
I tried 402 and 398 I think. I didn't bother to write down the stepping/date, I used to actually take pictures in the past but again, I wasn't that interested in getting every ounce of performance out of it. I got it from Newegg first week of January, was a late December batch and Newegg turnover is excellent so typically they'll always have the latest steppings/batch. Still, @3GHz its easily the most stable/effortless OC'ing chip I've ever owned, I'm sure it'll go higher, its just a matter of stepping around this mobo's potholes/limitations.
Originally posted by: Core2
The next memory strap starts at 425 Try that should work with 1.35 vcore 1.39 NB and spec for your ram 2.08 - 2.17
Edit: I had to step over those memory holes too when I was using 0202 Once I knew where they were it was a breeze to overclock. I was even using ClockGen and it would work as long as I stayed away from the memory holes
Ah ok, I'll keep that in mind. I'll probably just upgrade the BIOS though, as it seems to solve some of the timing issues as well at higher FSB. Does the 0401 still have the same memory straps as the 0202? Also, my memory is spec'd to run at 2.3V. Ya its really high, which is good I guess, since I can run it at 2.3V and not worry about frying my sticks.
Originally posted by: Core2
The next memory strap starts at 425 Try that should work with 1.35 vcore 1.39 NB and spec for your ram 2.08 - 2.17
Edit: I had to step over those memory holes too when I was using 0202 Once I knew where they were it was a breeze to overclock. I was even using ClockGen and it would work as long as I stayed away from the memory holes
Originally posted by: Core2
Originally posted by: JonDoms
Love the release notes with the 0401 bios:
1.Reduce S3 resuming time.
2.Change CopyRight year from 2006 to 2007.
Hahahaha
Wonder what happened between 0202 and 0401?
Core2 you said you got your system up to 3.7?
Is it stable with Orthos or Prime for more than an hour? 4 hours?
Thanks man just interested to see how powerful that little chip is. My friend's got one and I want to see how far we can push his.
Actually 3.880 and I have plenty vcore and NB volts left
3850 481x8
CPU Temps
3880 485x8
3.7 is solid after that it is all fun
JonDom,
How you doing. Haven't heard from you in a while. Did you flash to 0401. The way you have been running no need to. I bought some Corsair PC8500C5 and now I too can run 1T smoothly. Keep in touch