The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

[AZDude]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: AZDude
Couple of questions here
1) My temps seem to be a little high, http://usera.imagecave.com/bear254/2.6IDLE.JPG . Is this with in the recommended temp range or am I to hot? I have a 120mm fan bringing in air from the front, an 80mm fan blowing in from the side and a 120mm pushing air out the back. I also have this HSF on the NB http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16835116018 and a HS on the SB.
2) Looking at the screen shot above, I have the following set in the BIOS Vcore@1.33125, but on Speed Fan and Probe II it shows at 1.30 or 1.31. Do these programs show what the CPU is using or what the BIOS is set for?

Thanks

I like your NB heatsink. How is working out? Does it get real hot to the touch? Make sure that the push pins on the Freezer7 are in all the way. Try to rotate it a little while pushing down wards. Then check for any slack in the pins and that it isn't hung up on anything.
CPU temps are not bad MB temps are rather high. What is your ambient air temp? How many days has the HFS been on? The MX-1 that is pre-applied takes about 3- 4 weeks to cure. I hope you didn't take it off and put something else on.

The NB HSF is hot right now, I can touch it but only for a few minutes. (but I just got home and I had ran an orthos test for 2 hours 31 minutes)
I checked all the pins on the freezer pro7 and they are set good. I did take the MX-1 off before, but I bought some more and reapplied it yesterday.
The ambient temps in the office (where the computer is) is between 75 and 80 degrees.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: AZDude
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The NB HSF is hot right now, I can touch it but only for a few minutes. (but I just got home and I had ran an orthos test for 2 hours 31 minutes)
I checked all the pins on the freezer pro7 and they are set good. I did take the MX-1 off before, but I bought some more and reapplied it yesterday.
The ambient temps in the office (where the computer is) is between 75 and 80 degrees.

The ambient temps in the office (where the computer is) is between 75 and 80 degrees.

That will do it. Still the MX-1 will take a 3 - 4 days till you see a temperature drop. Turn the air on till it gets to about 70F and see what temps you have
EDIT: I also don't think you need that much vcore 1.28 - 1.30 should pass orthos and would drop your temps a little.

 

[idiotekniQues]

hey guys, i noticed my temps were not nearly as good as they should be with a ninja. it seemed to me the only thing it could be was lack of contact since i applied as5 just right. so i wanted to use screws to press it against the chip instead of those crummy plastic clips of this socket.

found a great thread that has a nice initial idea but that you can modify by purchasing other things like a tt bolt thru kit and modifying it - which is what i am doing.

thought someone might find it useful. i expect to knock off 5+ degrees at least. i have reseated this ninja like 4 times, not good for the pressure with these plastic clips.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=117054

 

[dlxmax]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: dlxmax
It looks like we might have a vdroop mod. Check here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1968396#post1968396

One guy seems willing to jump. If someone here with a multimeter could confirm his measurements I'm sure he'll test it out. I'd do it, but I left my multimeter in 'merica.

One is already done VMod

Vr-zone posted a VMOD, not a VDROOP MOD like they're working on at Xtremesystems. A VMOD allows you to increase voltage beyond what's available in bios. A VDROOP MOD allows you to decrease the voltage fluctuations that occue between idle and load speeds. A vdroop mod leads to much greater system stability and the ability to hit higher overclocks.

So, again, I'm asking anyone with a multimeter to take a couple of measurements and post their findings at http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1968396#post1968396

..... anyway, someone asked about temps at 3.2ghz. I've got a Scythe Ninja with MX-1 on it that hasn't cured yet. Room temp is 21C, mainboard ambient temp is 35C. Both cores are reading 60C at 1.34375v after one hour of ORTHOS running small FFTs.

SpeedFan 4.32 beta 8 reports the same core temps as Core Temp Beta 0.94. SpeedFan also gives a separate singular CPU temp measurement at 49C, which probably comes from a sensor under the CPU or next to the cores.

..... Another word about mounting the Scythe Ninja: you probably don't need to modifiy the mounting bracket as one of the users did here. The bracket comes very close to two capicitors on my board, hovering less than 1mm above them. But it does not touch. There was a bigger issue sliding in the motherboard tray with the heatsink mounted. In my ancient-but-still-cool Lian Li (PC-60?) case, I had to push down on the heatsink to get those heatpipe covers to clear the side.

 

[miles267]

Thanks -- not only did downgrading w/ AWDFLASH using the /f (force) method work to get me back to 0202, but I tweaked my BIOS settings from AUTO to 2t (2 ticks?) as prescribed. Seems to have done the trick. Is memory really THIS touchy? If so, no OC'ing in my lifetime.

Also, are 1t and 2t the only 2 options? (besides auto)?

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: miles267
Thanks -- not only did downgrading w/ AWDFLASH using the /f (force) method work to get me back to 0202, but I tweaked my BIOS settings from AUTO to 2t (2 ticks?) as prescribed. Seems to have done the trick. Is memory really THIS touchy? If so, no OC'ing in my lifetime.

Also, are 1t and 2t the only 2 options? (besides auto)?

those are the only options that I am aware of.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: miles267
Thanks -- not only did downgrading w/ AWDFLASH using the /f (force) method work to get me back to 0202, but I tweaked my BIOS settings from AUTO to 2t (2 ticks?) as prescribed. Seems to have done the trick. Is memory really THIS touchy? If so, no OC'ing in my lifetime.

Also, are 1t and 2t the only 2 options? (besides auto)?

Yes, memory is real touchy. Thats why you have to set the first five settings in the bios to your manufactures spec's and you won't have problems. For you that is 4-4-4-12 2T and voltages to 2.1v (2.08 - 2.17 in the bios) I still think the 0401 bios was fine you just needed to manually set those spec's.

 

[Core2]

I set everything to full Auto and enabled SLI Memory. Here is what the bios set me up with. Notice the vcore voltages before running Orthos and while I was running it. Also check out the memory timings the bios set 5-4-4-12-22-1T. My spec's are 5-5-5-15 at 800MHz and at 1066MHz so it gave me a little boost in the memory performance. The Super Pi is one of my best at default speed and is close to my P5B Deluxe in performance.

Before Orthos and Super Pi

Running Orthos

EDIT: IMPORTANT NOTE
If you have SLI Memory and you enable the option in the bios or it is already enabled. You will not have control of the FSB or Memory Speed until you disable it. The bios with the SLI Memory Option Enabled tried to run the FSB 1066 1:1 with my memory at 1066 which it is rated for and can run at that speed. So keep this in the back of you mind when you have SLI Memory and if you play with this option. All the new Corsair PC6400C4 and PC8500C5 are SLI certified memory and maybe more.

 

[Genuine Imitation]

Originally posted by: Core2
I set everything to full Auto and enabled SLI Memory. Here is what the bios set me up with. Notice the vcore voltages before running Orthos and while I was running it. Also check out the memory timings the bios set 5-4-4-12-22-1T. My spec's are 5-5-5-15 at 800MHz and at 1066MHz so it gave me a little boost in the memory performance. The Super Pi is one of my best at default speed and is close to my P5B Deluxe in performance.

Before Orthos and Super Pi

Running Orthos

EDIT: IMPORTANT NOTE
If you have SLI Memory and you enable the option in the bios or it is already enabled. You will not have control of the FSB or Memory Speed until you disable it. The bios with the SLI Memory Option Enabled tried to run the FSB 1066 1:1 with my memory at 1066 which it is rated for and can run at that speed. So keep this in the back of you mind when you have SLI Memory and if you play with this option. All the new Corsair PC6400C4 and PC8500C5 are SLI certified memory and maybe more.

So are you saying that if you enable SLI memory you can't overclock the cpu by raising the fsb anymore? I wasn't planning on enabling SLI mem, but its good to know either way.

 

[zingero84]

adder and core...

The problem that I found with my setup was not with the hardware whatsoever. It ended up being the CA Antivirus and Firewall trying to automatically configure with the internet and it was not following through. I found this out by disconnecting the RJ-45 cable and rebooting. Upon rebooting, I did not get any desktop freeze whatsoever, so I uninstalled CA Anti and installed Norton 2007 (which is working flawlessly).

Not really sure why CA wasn't working since it was fine on my other computer, but as long as this thing is running, its fine with me to have Norton.

Next thing... how overclocked can you go with stock cooling on the CPU, stock on NB, and heatsink on SB?

 

[Core2]

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EDIT: IMPORTANT NOTE
If you have SLI Memory and you enable the option in the bios or it is already enabled. You will not have control of the FSB or Memory Speed until you disable it. The bios with the SLI Memory Option Enabled tried to run the FSB 1066 1:1 with my memory at 1066 which it is rated for and can run at that speed. So keep this in the back of you mind when you have SLI Memory and if you play with this option. All the new Corsair PC6400C4 and PC8500C5 are SLI certified memory and maybe more.[/quote]

So are you saying that if you enable SLI memory you can't overclock the cpu by raising the fsb anymore? I wasn't planning on enabling SLI mem, but its good to know either way.[/quote]

Only in the SLI memory option. It has settings to OC by there

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: zingero84
adder and core...

The problem that I found with my setup was not with the hardware whatsoever. It ended up being the CA Antivirus and Firewall trying to automatically configure with the internet and it was not following through. I found this out by disconnecting the RJ-45 cable and rebooting. Upon rebooting, I did not get any desktop freeze whatsoever, so I uninstalled CA Anti and installed Norton 2007 (which is working flawlessly).

Not really sure why CA wasn't working since it was fine on my other computer, but as long as this thing is running, its fine with me to have Norton.

Next thing... how overclocked can you go with stock cooling on the CPU, stock on NB, and heatsink on SB?

That was probably Zone Alarm that was causing the issues. I run the CA Antivirus with no problems and I use Windows default firewall and Defender.

Stock cooling? I'd say 1600/800 should not be a problem. You should get a good boost there. If that gives you problems step right up to 1700/800 and try that. Just monitor all your temps

EDIT: Sorry I didn't see that you had a E6600. Try 1400/700 or 800 unlinked and work up from there

 

[mantras]

One of my plastic push pins on the arctic freezer 7 broke off. It still seems very secure/tight over the cpu but I was wondering if I should replace the cpu cooler? Is there away to get a replacement plastic piece? i don't really want to buy another cooler just because of the piece.

Also what are good north and south bridge heatsinks for this board. For the southbridge I'd like one that wouldn't hinder other components from being installed in the future and the northbridge one should fit alongside the arctic freezer. Though I do think the heatsink that came on the board does a good job.

 

[adder1971]

is it possible to use one of the pins from the stock cooler? its probably not a good idea to use it with only 3 pins.

 

[idiotekniQues]

a quick search of the net will reveal many cooling options:

NB - http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g40/c16...eatsinksCoolers-Northbridge-Page1.html

low profile chipsetcoole for SB - http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g40/c16...eatsinksCoolers-Low_Profile-Page1.html

 

[aintitthelife98]

So after playing with memory the last few days I've found I can run my memory at 900mhz at 4-4-4-12 1T. At 1000mhz I can run 5-5-5-15 2T.

Would you guys go with the higher speed but looser timings or the lower speed and tighter timings?

I'll be messing around a bit more this weekend to see what I can do.

 

[mantras]

Thanks guys.
Yeah I forgot about my stock cooler. It's down in the basement.. It may have the same plastic pins.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: aintitthelife98
So after playing with memory the last few days I've found I can run my memory at 900mhz at 4-4-4-12 1T. At 1000mhz I can run 5-5-5-15 2T.

Would you guys go with the higher speed but looser timings or the lower speed and tighter timings?

I'll be messing around a bit more this weekend to see what I can do.

Try running you memory a 4-3-3-9-1-2T 800MHz and compare Super Pi to 4-4-4-12-1-1T 800 MHz and tell me what you think

 

[akaliel]

What's the consensus on the 0401 BIOS? Should I flash or not? I've been having trouble overclocking beyond FSB1333. I had thought 1466 was running but my wife just called me and said that she got a BSOD. That also might be related to using all 4 RAM slots.

Does the 0401 BIOS resolve any issues with the yellow RAM slots or overclocking? I'm really close to smashing the damn thing.

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: akaliel
What's the consensus on the 0401 BIOS? Should I flash or not? I've been having trouble overclocking beyond FSB1333. I had thought 1466 was running but my wife just called me and said that she got a BSOD. That also might be related to using all 4 RAM slots.

Does the 0401 BIOS resolve any issues with the yellow RAM slots or overclocking? I'm really close to smashing the damn thing.

were you able to disable native command queuing? 0401 has worked better for mine. can't say I have been able to overclock better with it, but it has decreased issues at certain FSB's

 

[akaliel]

Native Command Queueing? Where do I do that?

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: akaliel
Native Command Queueing? Where do I do that?

disable native command queuing

seems to have worked with some of the BSOD issues

vcore seems kind of high for 2.9ghz

 

[akaliel]

I'll try disabling the NCQ.

My board seems to need high voltages. I've read people in this thread who got FSB 1600 and greater, running with only 1.39NB and 1.35vc. My board won't even post at that. It just sits there and does nothing. I need at least a 1.56v NB for it to post FSB 1600, although if I try rebooting it will refuse to post again.

I've only seen one BSOD so far. And while it's running it's been very stable. Only on reboots do I have issues, usually with it refusing to post and then when I finally get it to, it's messed up my memory timings.

I did notice that I could no longer post FSB 1500 as soon as I added more RAM. So maybe my board suffers from the "yellow" slot problem I've been hearing about. I'm looking into selling my memory and buying 2G in a single dual channel pair. Until then, I'll clock the FSB down to 1333 which has been pretty stable and is what I use as a fall back, while I regroup from a non-post or BSOD.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: akaliel
I'll try disabling it NCQ.

My board seems to need high voltages. I've read people in this thread who got FSB 1600 and greater, running with only 1.39NB and 1.35vc. My board won't even post at that. It just sits there and does nothing. I need at least a 1.56v NB for it to post FSB 1600, although if I try rebooting it will refuse to post again.

I've only seen one BSOD so far. And while it's running it's very stable. Only on reboots so I have issues, usually with it refusing to post and then when I get it to, it's messed up my memory timings.

Up your ram voltage (its to low) to 2.08 - 2.17 lower you vcore to 1.35 and try 1700/800 unlinked

Edit: is this your ram Mushkin

Run MemTest1.7 for errors

 

[akaliel]

My ram spec is 1.8 to 2.0. I went to the top end of that. Currently I am unlinked with my ram at 800 running the spec timings of 5-5-5-12 (2T). My RAM isn't overclocked. I don't think there's a need to increase the voltage of it.

I don't think there's a chance that 1700 will even post. I think the BIOS will just laugh at me.

Should I flash the BIOS to 0401? Will it matter? I don't like flashing unless I absolutely have to.