The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: Core2
I have put up an OverClocking Basic Guide on page 92. Ryan, I would like your input on what you think and if you can see anything that I should add or missed. I would recommend to 1337SPEED to try disabling the setting I have posted there and see if it helps

looking good John. i'll have some stuff to add but it's really coming together nicely.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: adder1971

Originally posted by: Core2
I have put up an OverClocking Basic Guide on page 92. Ryan, I would like your input on what you think and if you can see anything that I should add or missed. I would recommend to 1337SPEED to try disabling the setting I have posted there and see if it helps

looking good John. i'll have some stuff to add but it's really coming together nicely.

OK if you say so, Sir. I made a few adustment ( Auto vcore optional for you)

 

[Core2]

Looks like will hit 100 pages today. Thats a lot of posts in a little over a month

 

[dlfcobra]

adder1971, what's your take on setting up raid on this baord?? just got another HD 250gig 16MB SATA, Advice on setting it up? also what's the benifits? lastly is it worth me doing??

 

[dlxmax]

Originally posted by: Core2
I think there is some voltage spikes in the vdimm slots maybe dlxmax our electronics man can test the voltages at the four slots and let us know

It's likely that all slots share the same voltage rail. I tested the VMem at the mosfet, as per VR-Zone's review. In the bios I'm set at "2.013v", but measured 2.06v at idle and 2.04-2.07v at load. So yes, there are some small fluctuations that occur, but they are well within limit.

It's looking like I'm stable at 3.264ghz, 816mhz RAM at 4-3-3-3 2T. How on earth this ram runs at a tRAS of 3 is amazing. I've tried to go down to 1T but things get unstable and ORTHOS fails quickly, even at very relaxed timings. Perhaps I should try the black slots. Or just wait for a bios update.

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: dlfcobra
adder1971, what's your take on setting up raid on this baord?? just got another HD 250gig 16MB SATA, Advice on setting it up? also what's the benifits? lastly is it worth me doing??

if you want it to be faster when loading games I would recommend not doing it.

do not use the jmicron controller. use the nvraid if you are planning to do it.

also some people have reported issues with native command queuing. disable that in windows for stability sake.

some people like raid, but frankly it doesn't really seem to make much performance difference either way. i use it but am considering if i should continue to do so. have had no problems with it, just hear it may be faster without for what i use my pc for.

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: dlxmax

Originally posted by: Core2
I think there is some voltage spikes in the vdimm slots maybe dlxmax our electronics man can test the voltages at the four slots and let us know

It's likely that all slots share the same voltage rail. I tested the VMem at the mosfet, as per VR-Zone's review. In the bios I'm set at "2.013v", but measured 2.06v at idle and 2.04-2.07v at load. So yes, there are some small fluctuations that occur, but they are well within limit.

It's looking like I'm stable at 3.264ghz, 816mhz RAM at 4-3-3-3 2T. How on earth this ram runs at a tRAS of 3 is amazing. I've tried to go down to 1T but things get unstable and ORTHOS fails quickly, even at very relaxed timings. Perhaps I should try the black slots. Or just wait for a bios update.

good info dlxmax, im going to try those mem timings as well. (can get to 850mhz 4-4-3-8) how's the vdroop mod working out? i think my board is begging for it

plus i have been reading that lower timings @800mhz can give performance on par with higher fsb's with looser timings. those are really low timings

 

[dlxmax]

Originally posted by: Core2
If some of you can post links to NB and SB chipset coolers and heatsinks that you think are worth mentioning in the tip section (Page 92 15th post from the top) I will add them
Thanks

Edit: and HSF that you think are doing an excellent job

The Scythe Ninja for the CPU and Thermalright HR-05 for the NB, as recommended many times here, make a great combo. With the Ninja's fan pushed to the side so that a bit of its air goes past the HR-05, it does an excellent job of cooling them both. During my vdroop testing I had the fan off the Ninja (no prob, it's meant to handle passive cooling duty), and the HR-05 got so damn hot I could have caused burns if I touched it for a couple seconds. That means it's doing a great job pulling the heat out of the chip, but the HR-05 really needs to be actively cooled! Luckily, the slight breeze from the Ninja's fan cools it down so much that I can keep my hand on the HR-05 without problem. I recommend this combo.

On the other hand, I installed the Zalman "blue flower" heatsink on the SB. It's overkill cooling for the minimum heat generated there, and it was difficult to put on. Plus it only fits at an angle and will never work in an SLI setup. Not recommended.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: dlxmax

Originally posted by: Core2
I think there is some voltage spikes in the vdimm slots maybe dlxmax our electronics man can test the voltages at the four slots and let us know

It's likely that all slots share the same voltage rail. I tested the VMem at the mosfet, as per VR-Zone's review. In the bios I'm set at "2.013v", but measured 2.06v at idle and 2.04-2.07v at load. So yes, there are some small fluctuations that occur, but they are well within limit.

It's looking like I'm stable at 3.264ghz, 816mhz RAM at 4-3-3-3 2T. How on earth this ram runs at a tRAS of 3 is amazing. I've tried to go down to 1T but things get unstable and ORTHOS fails quickly, even at very relaxed timings. Perhaps I should try the black slots. Or just wait for a bios update.

Thanks dlxmax for testing that. Let me know if you ever test VMem at higher voltages. Just curious if the fluctuations are at same increase percentage. Nice job on the ram I have been able to reach 4-3-3-9 2T so far and trying to get to 3-4-3-9 2T. I posted a few of you tips and tricks in our guide page on page 92. Thanks for always sharing your info with us.

 

[Nevets Drassel]

Originally posted by: Core2
Looks like will hit 100 pages today. Thats a lot of posts in a little over a month

Let me help to advance this to 100 pages.

OK Core2 and Adder: I tried just about everything that I can think of to get above the 1950 barrier with just no luck what so ever. Whether at 7X or 8X, linked, unlinked, max power, min power, tight timings, loose timings, different memory slots, different memory sticks. I yelled at it, cursed it, praised it, even offered it some excellent memory to eat up, but I am still at that 1950 barrier on the FSB. No matter what configuration I use, I just can not get windows to start. The system will post, boot, but when the windows loading screen shows up, it is very faint and the loading bar will not initialize (this is up to 1960) and anything after that, I get the post, boot, then nothing after that. Any other suggestions to help me overcome my FSB barrier?

Also, while doing this OC'ing, I have been monitoring and measuring voltages at the Vcore, Vdimm, and Vchip. Here is a table of what I found on the P5N-E SLI voltages:

Voltage Chart

 

[adder1971]

Voltage Chart

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Excellent chart. apparently the vdroop really isnt that bad?

sounds like you have definitely found your max fsb. 487 isnt too shabby though. how high can you run your mem unlinked?

 

[Nevets Drassel]

Originally posted by: adder1971

Voltage Chart

Excellent chart. apparently the vdroop really isnt that bad?

sounds like you have definitely found your max fsb. 487 isnt too shabby though. how high can you run your mem unlinked?

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I can get the Crucial to 1000 easy with relaxed timings, about 970 with default timings at 2.353 (1.5v above stock although I think that I can lower it to 2.259).

 

[shapkahead]

Originally posted by: Nevets Drassel

Originally posted by: adder1971

Voltage Chart

Excellent chart. apparently the vdroop really isnt that bad?

sounds like you have definitely found your max fsb. 487 isnt too shabby though. how high can you run your mem unlinked?

I can get the Crucial to 1000 easy with relaxed timings, about 970 with default timings at 2.353 (1.5v above stock although I think that I can lower it to 2.259).
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What type of Crucial are you using? I strongly suspect mine of having compatibility issues with the P5N-E SLI, and it's Ballistix 2x1GB PC2-6400 4-4-4-12, BL2KIT12864AA804.

Has anyone gotten Ballistix to work with this board, especially the part number I'm using? Again, I'm stable under the 0202 BIOS but only at ridiculously low speeds and timings, and I'm unstable under all conditions under 0401. And the memory passes all of the memory testing I throw at it.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: Nevets Drassel

Originally posted by: Core2
Looks like will hit 100 pages today. Thats a lot of posts in a little over a month

Let me help to advance this to 100 pages.

OK Core2 and Adder: I tried just about everything that I can think of to get above the 1950 barrier with just no luck what so ever. Whether at 7X or 8X, linked, unlinked, max power, min power, tight timings, loose timings, different memory slots, different memory sticks. I yelled at it, cursed it, praised it, even offered it some excellent memory to eat up, but I am still at that 1950 barrier on the FSB. No matter what configuration I use, I just can not get windows to start. The system will post, boot, but when the windows loading screen shows up, it is very faint and the loading bar will not initialize (this is up to 1960) and anything after that, I get the post, boot, then nothing after that. Any other suggestions to help me overcome my FSB barrier?

Also, while doing this OC'ing, I have been monitoring and measuring voltages at the Vcore, Vdimm, and Vchip. Here is a table of what I found on the P5N-E SLI voltages:

Voltage Chart

Put your system in the Freezer. I'm sure you can break 4GHz that way lol. Can you email me a copy of you results. I'd like to review your results. I wish I wasn't so lazy I really miss doing that stuff. Thanks for taking the time to share them with us. I'll PM you my email address.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: shapkahead

Originally posted by: Nevets Drassel

Originally posted by: adder1971

Voltage Chart

Excellent chart. apparently the vdroop really isnt that bad?

sounds like you have definitely found your max fsb. 487 isnt too shabby though. how high can you run your mem unlinked?

What type of Crucial are you using? I strongly suspect mine of having compatibility issues with the P5N-E SLI, and it's Ballistix 2x1GB PC2-6400 4-4-4-12, BL2KIT12864AA804.

Has anyone gotten Ballistix to work with this board, especially the part number I'm using? Again, I'm stable under the 0202 BIOS but only at ridiculously low speeds and timings, and I'm unstable under all conditions under 0401. And the memory passes all of the memory testing I throw at it.

I can get the Crucial to 1000 easy with relaxed timings, about 970 with default timings at 2.353 (1.5v above stock although I think that I can lower it to 2.259).

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Put the rest of your settings in your sig Vcore, VMem, NB, Timings 1T or 2T . Compare your bios setup to what I posted in the Tips page 92 in the overclocking section and disable what I recommended. Go through the trouble shooting section too.

 

[jdrom17]

Thanks for the reply John (Core2). I don't know how much overclocking I will be doing, and I'm getting them from a friend who has them running on the eVGA 680i motherboard. He's into overclocking though and getting the Team Xtreme stuff. He currently has the memory running underclocked at like 390 with tighter timings.

As long as they can run at the rated speed of 400 (800), then I'll be fine.


BTW, for anyone looking at the Noctua NH-U6 (Chipset) and the NH-U12F (CPU) HSFs, I've emailed Noctua and they are ordering a P5N-E SLI motherboard to test those two together on. They did say that the NH-U12F and the Thermalright HR-05 SLi would most likely fit, however they were unsure about using the NH-U6 and NH-U12F together, as there may only be a few mm left of clearance. If they confirm that both fit together, I will post on here so that they can be added to the list.

 

[HRPretzel]

Whoa, I hadn't read this thread in a week and it took me a few hours to catch up.

Anyways, I installed Vista last night. Everytime I restart my computer it runs a memory test when booting. Any idea why this happens and how I can turn it off??

Yes, I have the "bad" CosairPC6400 C4, on that note will Corsair exchange them for a different version?

 

[meesterlars]

I've now finally put together all my components! Huzzah!

I say all, but that is in fact a lie, as I have to wait a few days for my hard drives to arrive. Bloody hell. The suspense is killing me. I was hoping to spend the whole weekend going bananas with my new computer.

Anyhoo, updating to 0401 was absolutely painless, but I did a cmos reset to be on the safe side. Without hard drives there's not too much I can do at the mo, except experiment with overclocking. My first attempt is as per my sig, that being 424x8 on my E6400. I'm now going to run mprime, using the ultimate bootcd, overnight. It's been running for about an hour now without issues. Man, these E6400s are unreal! I'm _hugely_ chuffed!

I'll report back on my overclocking adventure from time to time, for those who may be interested.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: meesterlars
I've now finally put together all my components! Huzzah!

I say all, but that is in fact a lie, as I have to wait a few days for my hard drives to arrive. Bloody hell. The suspense is killing me. I was hoping to spend the whole weekend going bananas with my new computer.

Anyhoo, updating to 0401 was absolutely painless, but I did a cmos reset to be on the safe side. Without hard drives there's not too much I can do at the mo, except experiment with overclocking. My first attempt is as per my sig, that being 424x8 on my E6400. I'm now going to run mprime, using the ultimate bootcd, overnight. It's been running for about an hour now without issues. Man, these E6400s are unreal! I'm _hugely_ chuffed!

I'll report back on my overclocking adventure from time to time, for those who may be interested.

Welcome Aboard meesterlars
Well, I can't officially add you to our database as a full member till you have an OS running. So get R done.
Edit You forgot to update your bios in your sig. Nice OC without an OS and in the dark what are your temps

 

[meesterlars]

Originally posted by: Core2
Welcome Aboard meesterlars
Well, I can't officially add you to our database as a full member till you have an OS running. So get R done.
Edit You forgot to update your bios in your sig. Nice OC without an OS and in the dark what are your temps

Sig updated. Temps? That's a little tricky... After running mprime, rebooting and immediately going into the bios to check the temp there, my CPU was around 57°C. That's rather high-ish, I reckon, though I expected as much with my cooler. Nonetheless, 60° is well within this thing's limits, so I'm happy.

EDIT: after setting my vcore to 1.35v I've noticed the bios reporting the cpu temp at around 45° after mprime. I'm much happier with that!

I'm hoping, praying, dancing, mumbling, etc etc that my hard drives are ready in the morning. XP should be installed in a flash, then I'll really start playing!

And before I forget, thanks for the welcome, Core2!

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: meesterlars

Originally posted by: Core2
Welcome Aboard meesterlars
Well, I can't officially add you to our database as a full member till you have an OS running. So get R done.
Edit You forgot to update your bios in your sig. Nice OC without an OS and in the dark what are your temps

Sig updated. Temps? That's a little tricky... After running mprime, rebooting and immediately going into the bios to check the temp there, my CPU was around 57°C. That's rather high-ish, I reckon, though I expected as much with my cooler. Nonetheless, 60° is well within this thing's limits, so I'm happy.

EDIT: after setting my vcore to 1.35v I've noticed the bios reporting the cpu temp at around 45° after mprime. I'm much happier with that!

I'm hoping, praying, dancing, mumbling, etc etc that my hard drives are ready in the morning. XP should be installed in a flash, then I'll really start playing!

And before I forget, thanks for the welcome, Core2!

These E6400 don't seem to need to much vcore I'm usually around 1.32 at your speed. How do you like that NB cooler I can't find it anywhere here in the US. Where are you from Denmark. nitrotg ( a member here ) has one of those and I think he lives there.

 

[meesterlars]

Originally posted by: Core2
These E6400 don't seem to need to much vcore I'm usually around 1.32 at your speed. How do you like that NB cooler I can't find it anywhere here in the US. Where are you from Denmark. nitrotg ( a member here ) has one of those and I think he lives there.

Nah, I'm from Germany. Though I have been to Legoland in Denmark. Best... birthday present... ever!

I'll stick with the voltage at 1.35 for now, and focus on stability.

As for my NB cooler, the thing gets damn hot. Which means it's taking the heat from the chip itself, which is a good thing. It also means I did a good job putting the cooler on, which I was worried about, to be honest. I think it's working well.

I'm impressed with my ram, btw. I knew I was buying something good! Running at 4-4-4-11-1T (via EPP/SLI). I've run three memory tests and not one error. Neato!

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: meesterlars

Originally posted by: Core2
These E6400 don't seem to need to much vcore I'm usually around 1.32 at your speed. How do you like that NB cooler I can't find it anywhere here in the US. Where are you from Denmark. nitrotg ( a member here ) has one of those and I think he lives there.

Nah, I'm from Germany. Though I have been to Legoland in Denmark. Best... birthday present... ever!

I'll stick with the voltage at 1.35 for now, and focus on stability.

As for my NB cooler, the thing gets damn hot. Which means it's taking the heat from the chip itself, which is a good thing. It also means I did a good job putting the cooler on, which I was worried about, to be honest. I think it's working well.

I'm impressed with my ram, btw. I knew I was buying something good! Running at 4-4-4-11-1T (via EPP/SLI). I've run three memory tests and not one error. Neato!

There are only a few that can run 1T so I'd say you have some good sticks there. Its worth doing your homework when it comes to ram nowadays

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: meesterlars
I've now finally put together all my components! Huzzah!

I say all, but that is in fact a lie, as I have to wait a few days for my hard drives to arrive. Bloody hell. The suspense is killing me. I was hoping to spend the whole weekend going bananas with my new computer.

Anyhoo, updating to 0401 was absolutely painless, but I did a cmos reset to be on the safe side. Without hard drives there's not too much I can do at the mo, except experiment with overclocking. My first attempt is as per my sig, that being 424x8 on my E6400. I'm now going to run mprime, using the ultimate bootcd, overnight. It's been running for about an hour now without issues. Man, these E6400s are unreal! I'm _hugely_ chuffed!

I'll report back on my overclocking adventure from time to time, for those who may be interested.

welcome meesterlars!!

any specifics on your e6400?

3392 seems to be the sweet spot on those babies. really don't even have to up vcore much to be stable there. let us know how it goes

 

[dlfcobra]

shapkahead
What type of Crucial are you using? I strongly suspect mine of having compatibility issues with the P5N-E SLI, and it's Ballistix 2x1GB PC2-6400 4-4-4-12, BL2KIT12864AA804.

Has anyone gotten Ballistix to work with this board, especially the part number I'm using? Again, I'm stable under the 0202 BIOS but only at ridiculously low speeds and timings, and I'm unstable under all conditions under 0401. And the memory passes all of the memory testing I throw at it.


i'm using the exact same ram, and have the same processor, almost same video card and i'm running 4-4-4-12 2T at 2.25 volts on the 0202 bios, also i'm running them in the black slots.. i hope that this helps out shapkahead.