The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

[jkcheng122]

hm the new cpu-z 1.39 is reporting the wrong multiplier and voltage, showing 6x instead of 8x, and 1.2v instead of 1.5v reported by speedfan.

core2, i followed the timings u suggested (4-4-4-11-1T and 11trc) and just ran a 3dmark06 w/o crashing on 1T timings.

question: you said to set vcore to 1.53v (might've been someone else that said this), at this setting my temps at idle are 41C cpu and 43/47C for the core temps. are these safe temperatures?

 

[chefcg1]

Originally posted by: uly166

uly166, what kind of core temps are you getting under full load?

For any one else, what are safe perameters for core temps? Not CPU temps. I am currently seeing 26c (55F)to 31c (66F) at idle and normal usage, but under orthos I have seen as high as 57c (120F).

I have noticed while playing around with FSB that when I do CPU-Z my ram ratio's change from 1:1 to many differnt ratios. Why is that? am I missing something in the bios?
I have my ram setup (unlinked).

How long is everyone running Orthos when testing before the say there system is stable?

Thanks!

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: jkcheng122
hm the new cpu-z 1.39 is reporting the wrong multiplier and voltage, showing 6x instead of 8x, and 1.2v instead of 1.5v reported by speedfan.

core2, i followed the timings u suggested (4-4-4-11-1T and 11trc) and just ran a 3dmark06 w/o crashing on 1T timings.

question: you said to set vcore to 1.53v (might've been someone else that said this), at this setting my temps at idle are 41C cpu and 43/47C for the core temps. are these safe temperatures?

You have me confused. The tRC was what I wanted you to try changing. I wanted you to try 11, 22 or 30 and see if it helped. So 1T runs fine by changing the tRC to 11?? The 4-4-4-11 1T can be 4-4-4-12 too or 5-5-5-15 or what ever has been working. The Vcore wasn't my suggestion. Do you need that much. What is your FSB? Temps are still within safe area. 65c would be the max for me at 100% load


hm the new cpu-z 1.39 is reporting the wrong multiplier and voltage, showing 6x instead of 8x, and 1.2v instead of 1.5v reported by speedfan.
Edit: The multipliers right vcore isn't. Put a load on the system and watch it change to 8

 

[Xdreamer]

you know i was just noticing... based on the number of posts here... I would say that this is a very popular board.

Asus has a winner!

 

[Core2]

If you take out my 791 post is it still popular or maybe I talk to much.

 

[jkcheng122]

Originally posted by: Core2
You have me confused. The tRC was what I wanted you to try changing. I wanted you to try 11, 22 or 30 and see if it helped. So 1T runs fine by changing the tRC to 11?? The 4-4-4-11 1T can be 4-4-4-12 too or 5-5-5-15 or what ever has been working. The Vcore wasn't my suggestion. Do you need that much. What is your FSB? Temps are still within safe area. 65c would be the max for me at 100% load

i'm gonna try lowering the voltage bit by bit and find the lowest stable voltage.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: chefcg1

Originally posted by: uly166

uly166, what kind of core temps are you getting under full load?

For any one else, what are safe perameters for core temps? Not CPU temps. I am currently seeing 26c (55F)to 31c (66F) at idle and normal usage, but under orthos I have seen as high as 57c (120F).

I have noticed while playing around with FSB that when I do CPU-Z my ram ratio's change from 1:1 to many differnt ratios. Why is that? am I missing something in the bios?
I have my ram setup (unlinked).

How long is everyone running Orthos when testing before the say there system is stable?

Thanks!

The ratio is based on FSB to Mem so when you change the FSB and not the mem the bios will calculate it for you. Sorry I'm not a Orthos person. I run 3Dmark06 or PCmark05.

 

[Ajay]

Well, the sudden disappearance of the Arctic Freezer 7 may be due to OEM demand - this from todays article on the AT front page:

AC F7 in OEM System

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: Ajay
Well, the sudden disappearance of the Arctic Freezer 7 may be due to OEM demand - this from todays article on the AT front page:

AC F7 in OEM System

Dropped $20 since yesterday. Still over priced. They have them in stock
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835186134

 

[uly166]

My temps about 3 hours orthos 45º at 3000Mhz (speedfan and coretemp)

 

[darkshippo]

Gosh, I never thought anything in US would be more expensive than Sweden. You can get an AC F7 for $30,44. I've ordered a P5N-E SLI, OCZ XTC Gold 2GB PC6400, E4300, AC F7. The board has got alot of criticism. I just hope it will boot up and if I'm lucky I'll hit 3GHz. Don't care about the timings.

 

[chefcg1]

thanks for the reply uly166. But what I was looking for was more on the 3.6mhz you have in your sig. you said that you were stable and I was wondering what core temps you had and also what your voltages were. I have been able to boot at 3.6 but I crash in windows. The highest core v I have gone is 1.45v just not sure if I give it a little more and loosen up my ram timings to get stable there.
Thanks!

 

[uly166]

Originally posted by: chefcg1
thanks for the reply uly166. But what I was looking for was more on the 3.6mhz you have in your sig. you said that you were stable and I was wondering what core temps you had and also what your voltages were. I have been able to boot at 3.6 but I crash in windows. The highest core v I have gone is 1.45v just not sure if I give it a little more and loosen up my ram timings to get stable there.
Thanks!

At 3600Mhz have problems with temps.At full 69º with 1´6 vcore.With vcore 1´55 i can pas superpi 1M....but not stable

 

[SystemHalt]

I just wanted to thank everyone here for helping me decide on what to get for new system i am happy to say the whole install went very well and very happy with the performance so far.

currently running all at stock and get about 8500pts in 3d mark 06 much better than my 2200 on old system.

Components i decided on should be listed in profile.

Only thing i did have a problem with was the following:

I went to install windows from xp 32 bit cd and i am running a raid 0 aray on 2 disks and had my dvdrw drive on the primary master ide and after getting thru to hitting F6 in windows for driver raid install the floppy would read fine ect. Went thru and setup of the drives ect formated all fine then when it would start to read the driver disk for the floppy it would give me a error saying the floppy was bad. must have screwed around with that for like 3 hours it ended up being that when running a raid array on this board with cdrom ect as primary master the os for some reason is thinking the cdrom/dvd drive is the hard drive i switched it over to the secoundary primary channel and install was cake then. Just a heads up if others run into this.

I will probably not do any ocing for about a month till i get a better cooler and more used to the hardware and bios. but thanks all for equipment selection installed and fired up first try no probs at all.

 

[sbinh]

Originally posted by: chefcg1
uly166, what kind of core temps are you getting under full load?

For any one else, what are safe perameters for core temps? Not CPU temps. I am currently seeing 26c (55F)to 31c (66F) at idle and normal usage, but under orthos I have seen as high as 57c (120F).

I have noticed while playing around with FSB that when I do CPU-Z my ram ratio's change from 1:1 to many differnt ratios. Why is that? am I missing something in the bios?
I have my ram setup (unlinked).

How long is everyone running Orthos when testing before the say there system is stable?

Thanks!

As long as you want ... but usually, people would let it runs around 24hrs ...
Eventhough .. your system is NOT guaranteed 100% statble.

 

[sbinh]

Originally posted by: Core2

The ratio is based on FSB to Mem so when you change the FSB and not the mem the bios will calculate it for you. Sorry I'm not a Orthos person. I run 3Dmark06 or PCmark05.

Those 2 apps ara not enough for stress test, John.
My system passed OCCT, 3DMark06, 05,03 and 01, PCmark 05, dual SpuerPI 32M but it failed Orthor or dual prime95.....

 

[dlxmax]

Since I've been testing my system for stability (I'm not gonna write 3.6ghz in my sig if it isn't stable with 4+ hours of ORTHOS--and you are, please write UNSTABLE next it), I haven't hooked up any of my USB components as they're still temporarily connected to my notebook for everyday use.

But I've discovered that if I plug in ANY USB component, system stability disappears. Not an instant crash, but stress testing fails much quicker. I'm not sure what change USB is having on my system but I theorize that it could be a voltage load that needs to be offset with a higher voltage elsewhere in the bios. Or it could just be a bios bug.

There's also a change in the bios post time. If anything USB is plugged in, there is a 1/2 second delay between the PROCESSOR and MEMORY TESTING lines being displayed. Unplug the USB device and that delay is gone. Bios bug? Irrelevant issue? Perhaps there's a stability difference if the devices are plugged in after boot as opposed to before boot.

Anyway, I was stable at 1680 fsb (3.36ghz) with ~1.42v Vcore after 6 hours of ORTHOS running small fft's at priority setting #9. Today it seems I'm having to drop the clocks and increase the voltage--and it's still just as cool inside.

I'll test this out a bit more and send a service request to Asus with my findings.

 

[Core2]

If you want stress you can run them in a loop. It tends to test all components not just the CPU and that is what I'm looking for.

 

[chefcg1]

But I've discovered that if I plug in ANY USB component, system stability disappears. Not an instant crash, but stress testing fails much quicker. I'm not sure what change USB is having on my system but I theorize that it could be a voltage load that needs to be offset with a higher voltage elsewhere in the bios. Or it could just be a bios bug.

There's also a change in the bios post time. If anything USB is plugged in, there is a 1/2 second delay between the PROCESSOR and MEMORY TESTING lines being displayed. Unplug the USB device and that delay is gone. Bios bug? Irrelevant issue? Perhaps there's a stability difference if the devices are plugged in after boot as opposed to before boot.

Anyway, I was stable at 1680 fsb (3.36ghz) with ~1.42v Vcore after 6 hours of ORTHOS running small fft's at priority setting #9. Today it seems I'm having to drop the clocks and increase the voltage--and it's still just as cool inside.

I'll test this out a bit more and send a service request to Asus with my findings.[/quote]

That is very interesting about the USB bug. Now that I think about it my stability issues came into play when I moved my system from the bench and actualy hooked up all my usb devices for every day use (printer, scanner, digital camera, palm craddle). I will do some more teasting without those items hooked up and also with them hooked up.

I had to drop my system down to 3262mhz to get it stable running orthos for 12hours.
I'm going to down load some of these other testing tools and see what happens.

I was able to post and run orthos for 18min before it halted today at 3825mhz. corev at 1.45 everything else auto, memory at 850mhz 5-5-5-15.

hey dlxmax, I don't know if you saw my post a couple of pages back asking about the vdrop mod. I see you have done it, was it worth the time? Do you think it is worth it if I just go the pensil route? From what I'm guessing and i do mean guessing, is that if I check resistance across the resistor first than after I pensil and for aprox every 20ohms change should be worth about .1 volts. Does that sound right? and how much of a change should I go with?
Thanks!

 

[Thrice]

Hello everyone,

I just finished building my first build last night. It booted on the first post. Windows install was a little tricky but I finally slipstreamed my raid drivers into the install and got it to work.

Installed all the new drivers. Everything was great until I ran 3dmark6. It was running fine for the first couple of minutes it just powered off. Trying it again did the same thing. It has now happend atleast one other time, installing other programs. I installed the asus temp check and I'm currently showing a CPU temp of 45c. It was above 60 when it power off. This seems way hot to me.

Nothing is OC'ed all mostly defualt settings.

Specs are:
P5N-E SLI 650i Mobo
C2D E6600 with Stock Heat Sink and fan
Gforce 8800 GTS 640 meg
Corsair 2x1gig DDR2 800 manually set to 5-5-5-12-t2
2x 250gig WD caviars SATA 2 in RAID 0
Xion Power real 600 Watt PS
Cool master Centurian 5 Case

What do you think is my most likely problem? Overheating? Or not enough power? I'm kind of at a loss of what to do next.

Thanks for the help
-Thrice

 

[chefcg1]

welcome! If all your voltages are set to auto and basicaly no overclocking I would say that your CPU heat sink is not properly seated and you are overheating, especaily if you are seeing 60c on asus probe. I would just reseat the cpu heat sink and try again.

 

[Core2]

Samsung Fined $90 Million for DRAM Price Fixing

 

[DeadMan3000]

I finally figured out why the Speedfan 'Configure' button was not working. I use multiple monitors and the 'Configure' window was opening on display 3 which is my TV out and not always on. Thus it seemed like it had frozen when in fact I just was not clicking on the hidden window. Beta 17 still shows '0' for my CPU fan speed though so have gone back to beta 8.

 

[ElAguila]

Originally posted by: SystemHalt
...Only thing i did have a problem with was the following:

I went to install windows from xp 32 bit cd and i am running a raid 0 aray on 2 disks and had my dvdrw drive on the primary master ide and after getting thru to hitting F6 in windows for driver raid install the floppy would read fine ect. Went thru and setup of the drives ect formated all fine then when it would start to read the driver disk for the floppy it would give me a error saying the floppy was bad. must have screwed around with that for like 3 hours it ended up being that when running a raid array on this board with cdrom ect as primary master the os for some reason is thinking the cdrom/dvd drive is the hard drive i switched it over to the secoundary primary channel and install was cake then. Just a heads up if others run into this.....

This is a bug with XP. It happens you use and onboard raid controller(or at least the nvidia and the intel ones). It doesn't seem to happen if you have a pci or pci express raid card. The only way around it is to use a program such as nlite and slipstream the drivers. Once you do this, it goes like butter.

 

[dlxmax]

Originally posted by: chefcg1
hey dlxmax, I don't know if you saw my post a couple of pages back asking about the vdrop mod. I see you have done it, was it worth the time? Do you think it is worth it if I just go the pencil route? From what I'm guessing and i do mean guessing, is that if I check resistance across the resistor first than after I pencil and for aprox every 20ohms change should be worth about .1 volts. Does that sound right? and how much of a change should I go with?

The best place to ask that question is in the vdroop thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=127528

But I'd say that the best amount of pencil is the minimum required to stay stable between load and idle. It's been theorized before that voltage swings lead to instability. But it's a fact that with the vdroop mod your idle voltage will be lower than before, leading to lower idle temps. The problem with penciling is that some of it will disappear quickly. After you add some pencil, blow the area with compressed air (or an air bulb) then measure it. You'll also get much more pencil to "stick" to the sides of resistors rather than the tops.

That said, pencilling, if done correctly, is an easy way to mod hardware. With my nVidia 7900GS, I soldered a jumper for the GPU voltmod, but for the memory mod I used pencil.