The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

[Core2]

Originally posted by: samuelmorris
PC6400 CAS5. It's only one stick of the usual two in the matched pair because one is faulty, but this behaviour really doesn't make sense even so.

Look at page 92. I put up a overclocking guide and my bios setup. Should get you going

 

[ElAguila]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: ElAguila
The highest fsb I have tried with the 8x multi so far is 412.

Try 425 when you get a chance

I will give it a try when I get home.

 

[Tuvoc]

Well for those running Vista x64 and find that Coretemp doesn't work, here is how to get it going:

http://www.alcpu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=211

And you guys with Core 2 Duos are getting good temps... My Intel Quad Core at stock speed 2.66 under full load (running a 4CPU chess engine) shows:

Core 0 78
Core 1 74
Core 2 69
Core 3 65

Amazing difference between the cores. I'll try 4 instances of Prime 95 (one per core) instead and see if they are more even. Could be that the chess engine is using the cores slightly differently perhaps

I may well remove the Freezer 7 Pro and re-apply some new MX-1. It seems to me that they include way too much pre-applied at the factory. Still, TJunction is 100C for this chip so there is headroom. Now that I have coretemp working, I can feel more comfortable with overclocking - it is Prime stable 12hrs+ at a 10% multiplier overclock, but I didn't have core temp working at that time. With this chip on air it is definitely advisable to stick to stock volts - although here:
http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=2924
is a Gateway machine with a 20% warranted overclock of 3.2GHz on air at 1.45v (+0.1v).....

 

[Tuvoc]

Originally posted by: Tuvoc

And you guys with Core 2 Duos are getting good temps... My Intel Quad Core at stock speed 2.66 under full load (running a 4CPU chess engine) shows:

Core 0 78
Core 1 74
Core 2 69
Core 3 65

Amazing difference between the cores. I'll try 4 instances of Prime 95 (one per core) instead and see if they are more even. Could be that the chess engine is using the cores slightly differently perhaps

Now running 4 instances of Prime95 , one per core.

Core 0 82
Core 1 82
Core 2 72
Core 3 72

So more consistency now that each core is running exactly the same thing. But still 10C difference between the two separate cores - I wonder if this is normal ?

I'm extremely happy with 72, I will certainly try a new aapplication of MX-1, maybe the other 2 cores will come down a little

 

[carey8]

Originally posted by: dlfcobra
Core2 dropped my Ram Volts down to 2.17 when at 4-4-4-12 @800 and i believe that did the trick!! i also got a slightly higher score with 3D mark when at 4-4-4-12@800 but not much. i still can't seem to get it stable at 1900fsb?? you did say that you were able to reach 1900 right??

What setup do you have on your board cooling wise?
Do you have any active NB cooling? or ANY SB cooling at all??
If so what do you have? i have the same CPU and i cant get any where near what your at.
What volts are you at for everything?

Thanks alot if you reply.

 

[Core2]

If you look it's stated in the sig

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: Tuvoc

I'm extremely happy with 72, I will certainly try a new aapplication of MX-1, maybe the other 2 cores will come down a little

If you do re-apply the MX-1 make sure the push pins are in there proper position ( play with them to get a feel for it ). Put a good dab ( pea size ) dead center of the chip ( don't try to spread it ) Lineup the pins with the holes on the board and rotate the HFS a little as you apply downward pressure. Push the pins in one at a time diagonally. If you do it right I think your temps will come down some.

Did you modify the Freezer7 Pro to fit?? Check and make sure there is clearance over the NB and have it blow out the back of the case not up.

 

[samuelmorris]

I read the guide, and following your instructions about the voltages I can get 1221mhz and 1300mhz FSB to POST, NOTHING in between will work at all, but 1300 isn't stable enough to boot windows. As I continually experience, this board seems to implement massive black spots where you can't POST. I tried setting my ram timings manually and now 1300 doesn't POST either. I'm still using BIOS 0202, is this a problem?

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: samuelmorris
I read the guide, and following your instructions about the voltages I can get 1221mhz and 1300mhz FSB to POST, NOTHING in between will work at all, but 1300 isn't stable enough to boot windows. As I continually experience, this board seems to implement massive black spots where you can't POST. I tried setting my ram timings manually and now 1300 doesn't POST either. I'm still using BIOS 0202, is this a problem?

What ram, vcore, nb voltages are you using? What are your ram timings? Auto vcore and nb works on a lot of boards. Record what is set in windows and use them as a manual reference. You can set you ram at 800MHz and set the FSB unlinked or linked and 1:1 memory. I haven't tried the E4300 so I can't give you any tips. I'm sure someone with one will chime in. Most important factors are your ram to support the speed, Timings and voltage. If there is no problems with the ram just up the vcore till your stable or Auto. Leave the NB on auto while experimenting.

 

[nitrotg]

I was thinking about trading this board to a P5B Deluxe.. whould that be a stupid move? cant get it over 1500fsb so either i should wait and hope theres comes a better bios or just trade it in :/

 

[sbinh]

IMO, if you don't need SLI, it's smart move ...
With P5B-Dlx, you'll have lots of fun with OCing ....

 

[samuelmorris]

I'm using 1.35V CPU with the +100mV offset (I'm pretty sure 1.35's the standard). RAM is set at 800mhz unlinked. NB voltage is 1.39V as per instruction. Timings manually set to 5-5-5-12 as RAM indicates and 2.1V as memory is tested to comply with.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: sbinh
IMO, if you don't need SLI, it's smart move ...
With P5B-Dlx, you'll have lots of fun with OCing ....

What happened???? Did you give up on the P5N-E SLI. To be honest the commando looks to be a better board then the P5B Deluxe and they seem to have better bios support. Even the Striker is finally getting the bios they needed. I still love mine P5B. Some people have had a lot of problems with them.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: samuelmorris
I'm using 1.35V CPU with the +100mV offset (I'm pretty sure 1.35's the standard). RAM is set at 800mhz unlinked. NB voltage is 1.39V as per instruction. Timings manually set to 5-5-5-12 as RAM indicates and 2.1V as memory is tested to comply with.

Try auto vcore NO +100mv offset, NB auto, ram is OK FSB set to 1400/700mem or 800 and see what happens.

 

[nitrotg]

Originally posted by: sbinh
IMO, if you don't need SLI, it's smart move ...
With P5B-Dlx, you'll have lots of fun with OCing ....

Naa.. dont really need SLI.. going for the G80 Gfx next time

Either im getting the P5B Dlx or maybe Gigabytes DS3

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: nitrotg

Originally posted by: sbinh
IMO, if you don't need SLI, it's smart move ...
With P5B-Dlx, you'll have lots of fun with OCing ....

Naa.. dont really need SLI.. going for the G80 Gfx next time

Either im getting the P5B Dlx or maybe Gigabytes DS3

Go with the Commando or P5B Deluxe. Stay away from the DS3 unless its rev 3.3

 

[Tuvoc]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: Tuvoc

I'm extremely happy with 72, I will certainly try a new aapplication of MX-1, maybe the other 2 cores will come down a little

If you do re-apply the MX-1 make sure the push pins are in there proper position ( play with them to get a feel for it ). Put a good dab ( pea size ) dead center of the chip ( don't try to spread it ) Lineup the pins with the holes on the board and rotate the HFS a little as you apply downward pressure. Push the pins in one at a time diagonally. If you do it right I think your temps will come down some.

Did you modify the Freezer7 Pro to fit?? Check and make sure there is clearance over the NB and have it blow out the back of the case not up.

All I had to do with the Freezer was to bend the metal fins up to clear the northbridge heatsink. No modification to the plastic fan housing as some have said is necessary - and indeed some have said not

 

[carey8]

Im now at, 2.948Ghz. With vCore 1.38XX voltage in the BIOS. But in CPUz its running at 1.36.
RAM voltage: 2.1
NB Voltage is at auto.
Im not putting my Vcore voltage to Auto becuase it goes stupendiously high, E.g like 1.5 in the BIOS. I dont want it to go that high. Seems like its Guna kill its self, or make its life span stupidly short.

Is there anything i can do to get higher?

I can POST at 1695 Rated FSB. But it wont load windows. I tried upping the vCore to 1.41 etc etc and it didnt help at all.
Stock cooling ont he motherboard btw.

Any ideas considered.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: carey8
Im now at, 2.948Ghz. With vCore 1.38XX voltage in the BIOS. But in CPUz its running at 1.36.
RAM voltage: 2.1
NB Voltage is at auto.
Im not putting my Vcore voltage to Auto becuase it goes stupendiously high, E.g like 1.5 in the BIOS. I dont want it to go that high. Seems like its Guna kill its self, or make its life span stupidly short.

Is there anything i can do to get higher?

I can POST at 1695 Rated FSB. But it wont load windows. I tried upping the vCore to 1.41 etc etc and it didnt help at all.
Stock cooling ont he motherboard btw.

Any ideas considered.

Yes, Try 1700FSB instead of 1695. There are to manry FSB holes there.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: Tuvoc

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: Tuvoc

I'm extremely happy with 72, I will certainly try a new aapplication of MX-1, maybe the other 2 cores will come down a little

If you do re-apply the MX-1 make sure the push pins are in there proper position ( play with them to get a feel for it ). Put a good dab ( pea size ) dead center of the chip ( don't try to spread it ) Lineup the pins with the holes on the board and rotate the HFS a little as you apply downward pressure. Push the pins in one at a time diagonally. If you do it right I think your temps will come down some.

Did you modify the Freezer7 Pro to fit?? Check and make sure there is clearance over the NB and have it blow out the back of the case not up.

All I had to do with the Freezer was to bend the metal fins up to clear the northbridge heatsink. No modification to the plastic fan housing as some have said is necessary - and indeed some have said not

As long as your positive it's not touching the NB or has tilted it. The first time I put mine on I didn't modify it either. Then I noticed it was resting on the NB and I had tilted the NB when I put the HSF on. So I took it off and leveled the NB and trimmed the fan housing and bent the fin up and it made a world of difference.

 

[carey8]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: carey8
Im now at, 2.948Ghz. With vCore 1.38XX voltage in the BIOS. But in CPUz its running at 1.36.
RAM voltage: 2.1
NB Voltage is at auto.
Im not putting my Vcore voltage to Auto becuase it goes stupendiously high, E.g like 1.5 in the BIOS. I dont want it to go that high. Seems like its Guna kill its self, or make its life span stupidly short.

Is there anything i can do to get higher?

I can POST at 1695 Rated FSB. But it wont load windows. I tried upping the vCore to 1.41 etc etc and it didnt help at all.
Stock cooling ont he motherboard btw.

Any ideas considered.

Yes, Try 1700FSB instead of 1695. There are to manry FSB holes there.

Oh ok. Ill try again later. I was told to jump from 1600 to 1700FSb and it didnt work, so i jumped to 1650 then worked my way up.
It also wasnt stable at 1965. so ive had to go back to 1670. Man this isnt going well.

 

[Tuvoc]

Originally posted by: Core2
As long as your positive it's not touching the NB or has tilted it. The first time I put mine on I didn't modify it either. Then I noticed it was resting on the NB and I had tilted the NB when I put the HSF on. So I took it off and leveled the NB and trimmed the fan housing and bent the fin up and it made a world of difference.

I'll check it carefully.
Don't actually have any MX-1 right now, I'll use AS5 - not quite as good but good enough

 

[Tuvoc]

Originally posted by: Tuvoc

Originally posted by: Core2
As long as your positive it's not touching the NB or has tilted it. The first time I put mine on I didn't modify it either. Then I noticed it was resting on the NB and I had tilted the NB when I put the HSF on. So I took it off and leveled the NB and trimmed the fan housing and bent the fin up and it made a world of difference.

I'll check it carefully.
Don't actually have any MX-1 right now, I'll use AS5 - not quite as good but good enough

Success !!

The plastic bit on the Freezer WAS preventing it from clamping down properly. I trimmed the plastic from that corner, and bent the fins a bit more. Now it totally clears it. Also, there was LOADS of mx-1 from the factory application. Cleaned it all off and used a rice-sized blob of Coolermaster Premium (which is all I have) and result....

Priming now all 4 core within 2C of each other, 69 and 67 C. Big drop from 82 before

Coretemp is a great program, I had no idea from ASUS probe that this problem existed.
Now I feel comfortable with getting it to 3.0GHz and staying safe

Thanks Core2 !!

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: Tuvoc
[Success !!

The plastic bit on the Freezer WAS preventing it from clamping down properly. I trimmed the plastic from that corner, and bent the fins a bit more. Now it totally clears it. Also, there was LOADS of mx-1 from the factory application. Cleaned it all off and used a rice-sized blob of Coolermaster Premium (which is all I have) and result....

Priming now all 4 core within 2C of each other, 69 and 67 C. Big drop from 82 before

Coretemp is a great program, I had no idea from ASUS probe that this problem existed.
Now I feel comfortable with getting it to 3.0GHz and staying safe

Thanks Core2 !!

Thats Great! To bad you didn't have any MX-1 probably shave another 5c off.
Try Speedfan Beta 17 You can monitor core temps, cpu temp, MB temp, HD temp, Voltages and fan control

 

[Tuvoc]

Originally posted by: Core2
Thats Great! To bad you didn't have any MX-1 probably shave another 5c off.
Try Speedfan Beta 17 You can monitor core temps, cpu temp, MB temp, HD temp, Voltages and fan control

I've never used speedfan before so would be a bit of a learning curve. Although a few pages back you posted your config... I 'll see if I can figure it out