The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

[darkshippo]

Originally posted by: Maz

Originally posted by: darkshippo
My first problem with stability just arrived. Last night and this morning I had two random crashed. One was the computer freezing and the 2nd one this morning I had a BSOD. It said something of "PSL Pool" and after that it rebooted. I could run 3DMark2003 for hours together with Orthos without problems. My Wireless USB mouse had run out of batteries so I plugged my corded mouse into my USB hub. I had my logitech usb headset, wireless receiver for my keyboard and mouse and then I added corded Logitech mouse on the same hub.

I wonder if any of you guys had problems with USB stability issues?

You know thats funny you mention that because when I push past 3.3ghz I run two instances of orthos for like a half hour and all is well. I can navigate through the start button and open programs during this using my keyboard, then the second I move my mouse (logitech mx510 on usb) my computer resets... I've done this several times... opening programs with keyboard etc and trying to crash the system and all is well till i touch the damn mouse. Maybe I should use an adapter on ps2 port???

What handles the usb ports? the sb? perhaps the sb is hot and needs to be cooled? maybe that would help... prob not... let me know if you try an adapter on the ps2 port for your mouse and it cures your problems. I will do the same.

I'm gonna bring out my old trusty Keytronic and put the MX500 on the PS2 connector and. USB is controlled by SB. Need to cool it somehow. I don't want to epoxy it.

 

[Fiat1]

If I keep bumping up the FSB to say something like 1600 will that alone overclock the cpu to 3.**?

 

[imported_Maz]

Originally posted by: Derik75

Originally posted by: Maz

Originally posted by: Derik75
I've been idling around 49C and get up to about 60C under full load. Is this reasonable for an OC cpu with an after market heatsink?

I would say that is unreasonable. My max load temps are your idle temps. Maybe your vcore is set too high or more likely you should try reinstalling your heatsink. I assume when you say 60C you are talking about temp1. For core0 or core1 that is normal. But if your temp1 is that hight then yeah you need to do something cause that mean your cores are getting extremely hot ~70C+ and thats considered 'hot'.

I am talking about Core 0/1. The Temp1 goes from 40-47 usually.

60c on core0 and core1 at full load is just fine. You have nothing to worry about.

 

[imported_Maz]

Originally posted by: Fiat1
If I keep bumping up the FSB to say something like 1600 will that alone overclock the cpu to 3.**?

The short answer is yes. However, that alone may not establish the speed/stability you're after. You will need to adjust vcore etc.

 

[Fiat1]

Ok, I understand about the voltage steps. I'm only up to 1350 I'll try to get it up to 1500 tonight.

 

[clicker666]

I'm confused.

I have an E4300, 2 GB of ShikaRAM PC2-6400 (5-5-5-15 2T), Zalman 9500, Vantec Iceberq on the NB, and a low profile passive cooler on the SB.

Set for 1333, 9 multiplier, unlinked, RAM at 800. 3 GHz total.

Volts are VCore at auto, mem at 2-ish, NB at auto

Temps at idle with Speedfan are: CPU 34, MB 37, C0 27, C1 27. After 15 minutes of Ortho on blend my max temps were: CPU 41, MB 38, C0 59, C1 59. The Cores kept bumping back and forth between 51 and 59. The CPU stayed up near 40-41.

Is this result OK? Those cores seem pretty close to the 65 bad area...

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: darkshippo

Originally posted by: Maz

Originally posted by: darkshippo
My first problem with stability just arrived. Last night and this morning I had two random crashed. One was the computer freezing and the 2nd one this morning I had a BSOD. It said something of "PSL Pool" and after that it rebooted. I could run 3DMark2003 for hours together with Orthos without problems. My Wireless USB mouse had run out of batteries so I plugged my corded mouse into my USB hub. I had my logitech usb headset, wireless receiver for my keyboard and mouse and then I added corded Logitech mouse on the same hub.

I wonder if any of you guys had problems with USB stability issues?

You know thats funny you mention that because when I push past 3.3ghz I run two instances of orthos for like a half hour and all is well. I can navigate through the start button and open programs during this using my keyboard, then the second I move my mouse (logitech mx510 on usb) my computer resets... I've done this several times... opening programs with keyboard etc and trying to crash the system and all is well till i touch the damn mouse. Maybe I should use an adapter on ps2 port???

What handles the usb ports? the sb? perhaps the sb is hot and needs to be cooled? maybe that would help... prob not... let me know if you try an adapter on the ps2 port for your mouse and it cures your problems. I will do the same.

I'm gonna bring out my old trusty Keytronic and put the MX500 on the PS2 connector and. USB is controlled by SB. Need to cool it somehow. I don't want to epoxy it.

Try Disabling the USB Legacy Support in the bios and see if that helps.

 

[Fiat1]

Ok, I'm up tp 1505 fsb(QDR) x9 mult unlinked mem 800 vcore1.35 mem v auto nb 1.56 and still cpu-z only shows a 2.4 g what am I doing wrong?

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: Fiat1
If I keep bumping up the FSB to say something like 1600 will that alone overclock the cpu to 3.**?

A 1600FSB is going to be a challenge with that E6600 especially with a 9 multiplier. Try 375 ( 1500/800 ) Unlinked with a 9 or 8 multiplier first. Set your Vcore and NB voltages to Auto to start. If that doesn't work try Vcore 1.50 NB 1.56

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: Fiat1
Ok, I'm up tp 1505 fsb(QDR) x9 mult unlinked mem 800vcore1.35 mem v auto nb 1.56 and still cpu-z only shows a 2.4 g what am I doing wrong?

Dump your CPU-z report from the about tab here in a post

 

[Fiat1]

CPU-Z 1.38 report file
Processor(s)
Number of processors 1
Number of cores 2 per processor
Number of threads 2 (max 2) per processor
Name Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Code Name Conroe
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Package Socket 775 LGA
Family/Model/Stepping 6.F.6
Extended Family/Model 6.F
Core Stepping B2
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 2399.9 MHz
Multiplier x Bus speed 9.0 x 266.7 MHz
Rated Bus speed 1066.6 MHz
Stock frequency 2400 MHz
Instruction sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T
L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4096 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Chipset & Memory
Northbridge NVIDIA 650i SLI SPP rev. A2
Southbridge NVIDIA 650i SLI MCP rev. A3
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 2048 MBytes
Memory Frequency 400.0 MHz (2:3)
CAS# Latency (tCL) 5.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRDC) 5 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 5 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 18 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 23 clocks
Command Rate 2T
System
System Manufacturer System manufacturer
System Name System Product Name
System S/N System Serial Number
Mainboard Vendor ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Mainboard Model P5N-E SLI
BIOS Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS Version ASUS P5N-E SLI ACPI BIOS Revision 0401
BIOS Date 01/12/2007
Memory SPD
Module 1 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Melco
Module 2 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Melco
Software
Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Ultimate Edition (Build 6000)
DirectX Version 10.0

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: clicker666
I'm confused.

I have an E4300, 2 GB of ShikaRAM PC2-6400 (5-5-5-15 2T), Zalman 9500, Vantec Iceberq on the NB, and a low profile passive cooler on the SB.

Set for 1333, 9 multiplier, unlinked, RAM at 800. 3 GHz total.

Volts are VCore at auto, mem at 2-ish, NB at auto

Temps at idle with Speedfan are: CPU 34, MB 37, C0 27, C1 27. After 15 minutes of Ortho on blend my max temps were: CPU 41, MB 38, C0 59, C1 59. The Cores kept bumping back and forth between 51 and 59. The CPU stayed up near 40-41.

Is this result OK? Those cores seem pretty close to the 65 bad area...

Those are fine. What do you have for case cooling? The more outside air you can bring in the better and the more hot air out will bring your temps down a bit

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: Fiat1
CPU-Z 1.38 report file
Processor(s)
Number of processors 1
Number of cores 2 per processor
Number of threads 2 (max 2) per processor
Name Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Code Name Conroe
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Package Socket 775 LGA
Family/Model/Stepping 6.F.6
Extended Family/Model 6.F
Core Stepping B2
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 2399.9 MHz
Multiplier x Bus speed 9.0 x 266.7 MHz
Rated Bus speed 1066.6 MHz BUS SPEED IS STILL AT DEFAULT
Stock frequency 2400 MHz
Instruction sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T
L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4096 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Chipset & Memory
Northbridge NVIDIA 650i SLI SPP rev. A2
Southbridge NVIDIA 650i SLI MCP rev. A3
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 2048 MBytes
Memory Frequency 400.0 MHz (2:3)
CAS# Latency (tCL) 5.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRDC) 5 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 5 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 18 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 23 clocks
Command Rate 2T
System
System Manufacturer System manufacturer
System Name System Product Name
System S/N System Serial Number
Mainboard Vendor ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Mainboard Model P5N-E SLI
BIOS Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS Version ASUS P5N-E SLI ACPI BIOS Revision 0401
BIOS Date 01/12/2007
Memory SPD
Module 1 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Melco
Module 2 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Melco
Software
Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Ultimate Edition (Build 6000)
DirectX Version 10.0

Are you saving your changes in the Bios. You bus speed is still at Default. After you make changes in the bios reboot and re-enter the bios and check the FSB speed to make sure it has changed. If not try again. Set to Unlinked 1500FSB/800Mem

 

[Core2]

Then go to the Advanced Tab FSB and Memory Config
Select [Unlinked] DO You have this set to AUTO???????
FSB Memory Ratio Grayed out
FSB (QDR) Start at 1200, then work upwards to 1700 in jumps of 50 ( skip 1600 if you have problems there, E6600 - x6800 and Quads work the 1500 FSB area slowly. The 1600 FSB and above may not be achievable for you ( depends on your chip)
Mem (DDR) MHz (800) Now this is for systems with 800MHz or faster ram.

 

[Fiat1]

Ok here is the new stats. Core2 how do they look?
CPU-Z 1.38 report file
Processor(s)
Number of processors 1
Number of cores 2 per processor
Number of threads 2 (max 2) per processor
Name Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Code Name Conroe
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Package Socket 775 LGA
Family/Model/Stepping 6.F.6
Extended Family/Model 6.F
Core Stepping B2
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 3374.8 MHz
Multiplier x Bus speed 9.0 x 375.0 MHz
Rated Bus speed 1499.9 MHz
Stock frequency 2400 MHz
Instruction sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T
L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4096 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Chipset & Memory
Northbridge NVIDIA 650i SLI SPP rev. A2
Southbridge NVIDIA 650i SLI MCP rev. A3
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 2048 MBytes
Memory Frequency 400.0 MHz (15:16)
CAS# Latency (tCL) 5.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRDC) 5 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 5 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 31 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 23 clocks
Command Rate 2T
System
System Manufacturer System manufacturer
System Name System Product Name
System S/N System Serial Number
Mainboard Vendor ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Mainboard Model P5N-E SLI
BIOS Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS Version ASUS P5N-E SLI ACPI BIOS Revision 0401
BIOS Date 01/12/2007
Memory SPD
Module 1 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Melco
Module 2 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Melco
Software
Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Ultimate Edition (Build 6000)
DirectX Version 10.0

 

[clicker666]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: clicker666
I'm confused.

I have an E4300, 2 GB of ShikaRAM PC2-6400 (5-5-5-15 2T), Zalman 9500, Vantec Iceberq on the NB, and a low profile passive cooler on the SB.

Set for 1333, 9 multiplier, unlinked, RAM at 800. 3 GHz total.

Volts are VCore at auto, mem at 2-ish, NB at auto

Temps at idle with Speedfan are: CPU 34, MB 37, C0 27, C1 27. After 15 minutes of Ortho on blend my max temps were: CPU 41, MB 38, C0 59, C1 59. The Cores kept bumping back and forth between 51 and 59. The CPU stayed up near 40-41.

Is this result OK? Those cores seem pretty close to the 65 bad area...

Those are fine. What do you have for case cooling? The more outside air you can bring in the better and the more hot air out will bring your temps down a bit

The case is the Antec Gamer Nine Hundred, two fans in the front, big 200 on the top, big fan in the back. Cool air was coming out of the top and back, so I changed the Zalman to point to the top, and reversed the rear to blow over the mainboard and CPU from the back. Air coming out of the top seems cooler than room temp.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: Fiat1
Ok here is the new stats. Core2 how do they look?
CPU-Z 1.38 report file
Processor(s)
Number of processors 1
Number of cores 2 per processor
Number of threads 2 (max 2) per processor
Name Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Code Name Conroe
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Package Socket 775 LGA
Family/Model/Stepping 6.F.6
Extended Family/Model 6.F
Core Stepping B2
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 3374.8 MHz THATS BETTER
Multiplier x Bus speed 9.0 x 375.0 MHz
Rated Bus speed 1499.9 MHz
Stock frequency 2400 MHz
Instruction sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T
L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4096 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Chipset & Memory
Northbridge NVIDIA 650i SLI SPP rev. A2
Southbridge NVIDIA 650i SLI MCP rev. A3
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 2048 MBytes
Memory Frequency 400.0 MHz (15:16)
CAS# Latency (tCL) 5.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRDC) 5 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 5 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 31 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 23 clocks
Command Rate 2T
System
System Manufacturer System manufacturer
System Name System Product Name
System S/N System Serial Number
Mainboard Vendor ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Mainboard Model P5N-E SLI
BIOS Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS Version ASUS P5N-E SLI ACPI BIOS Revision 0401
BIOS Date 01/12/2007
Memory SPD
Module 1 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Melco
Module 2 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Melco
Software
Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Ultimate Edition (Build 6000)
DirectX Version 10.0

That Good. So what were you doing wrong?? What voltages did you use? You should post your System and your Settings ( FSB, speed, voltages and timings) in you sig

 

[imported_Maz]

one instance of orthos?

 

[ArtfulCodger]

Hi everyone....
I'm sure this is old news but for those not sure about speedfan and just want to monitor volts and temps...our good friends at CPUID have PC wizard 2007 with support for the NV650 chipset....the temps are all labelled correctly so no need to change them....and there is enough extra info and benchies etc to warrant the download

http://www.cpuid.com/

I'm currently waiting to see if the heatsink I have attached to the sb with MX-1 just slides off when it gets hot....then I'll see how far I can clock this puppy...btw my cores idle at 32&34C which is about 10 degrees above ambient here atm....

Edit: Wooops I don't know what you are supposed to see but the app closes when I attempt to see the 'Overclock Information'....hope it isn't a bad omen

 

[darkshippo]

I'm having more problems with this board. All seems to be SB-related. This morning the network disconnected me refused to reconnect me until I reboot. It said something about my network being limited or something like that. I already have the latest drivers to this board. Trying to cure this problem I'm having a 80mm fan blowing towards to the SB.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: darkshippo
I'm having more problems with this board. All seems to be SB-related. This morning the network disconnected me refused to reconnect me until I reboot. It said something about my network being limited or something like that. I already have the latest drivers to this board. Trying to cure this problem I'm having a 80mm fan blowing towards to the SB.

See if this helps. http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=...model=P5N-E+SLI&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

This seems to be a driver OS problem. Your SB is fine. Are you familiar with ipconfig? You can release and renew your IP address. Do you use a router? Clear the cache by rebooting it. Firewall software can can cause drooped connections. Let us know how you make out.

 

[darkshippo]

This just happened one time for me. Overall this system seems stable.. with weird symptoms. I will try to iron out each one of them. Right now I'm trying see to if the system will be more stable with Legacy stuff (Ps2 keyboard and mouse).

 

[Fiat1]

Ok, I'm now OC to 3.3
Core Speed 3374.8
Multiplier x Bus speed 9.0 x 375.0 MHz
It seams that it wasn't saving my bios settings.
I had to do a back to default setting.
Than I set up everything.

 

[nefariouscaine]

found out a new bug in my stability with my mobo/cpu - didn't really think too much of it and thought it might be the psu I had but what ever i set the vCORE to in the bios it holds just fine during idle (its a little off but stable) then when i throw it a stress load it drops alot - at least .05v usually more - tried 2 different psu's that should be just fine with my setup and its still happens - and if i raise up the vcore it scales the drop

all my other rails and volts are basically the same but for the vcore under speedfan and the asus utility

any suggestions?

 

[smartinez906]

Hi all, this is my first post in this thread, but I have been reading this for awhile. Because of the great support here and in the Asus forums I went ahead and built my rig with this mobo. Anyway, here is a breakdown I'm having with overclocking. I can't seem to get above 1200 FSB no matter what settings I try. I can go right up 1199 and everything runs fine. Memtest and Orthos both run for hours without any errors. The system is rock solid at anything below 1200 FSB. I've followed the guide on pg. 92 but that still has not helped. Below is my what I'm running.

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
ARCTIC Freezer 7 Pro
2GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800, 4-4-4-12 2T, voltage is Auto, also using yellow slots
400GB Segate Sata HD
BFG 7600 GT
2 DVD burners
500w Ultra V PSU
Antec Nine Hundred case

I don't think temps. are an issue because CPU rarely got above 34c-35c and mobo was around 28c-30c, after hours of running Orthos. I don't however have a heatsink on the southbridge. The weird thing is that whenever I try to change the voltages on anything (memory, Vcore, NB) to anything other than auto, either the system won't post or will hang at the windows startup screen. So all my overclocking has taken place with all the voltages set to auto. Could this be a PSU issue? I know 500w is plenty of power to run this system, but this is also not a high quality PSU. I got the PSU free after rebate so I can't complain about the price. Anyway, any help would be appreciated.