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[GoodRevrnd]

What is the block range? I thought it was 200 but I guess it would have to be more like 400??

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

What is the block range? I thought it was 200 but I guess it would have to be more like 400??

It depends on the creep camp, and it's not the same in every direction. You just have to know them. For some it'd be around 1000, for others, maybe 600 or so.

 

[BergeLSU]

I can always tell when I drop into a lower tier bracket for a few games. For example, I just played a game where Bane demanded middle over Nyx, then tried to rush a Scepter against a team that each hero had a disable. We lost, naturally, and he made a "baddie" comment.

 

[SockHaser]

I can always tell when I drop into a lower tier bracket for a few games. For example, I just played a game where Bane demanded middle over Nyx, then tried to rush a Scepter against a team that each hero had a disable. We lost, naturally, and he made a "baddie" comment.

Solo bane isn't that bad, he can win a lane quite easily against a lot of heroes with enfeeble

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Ya but he pushed a Nyx out of mid.

 

[p0rkguy]

Nyx isn't always required mid.
Bane, if done right in the first 2 minutes in the game, can pretty much beat any mid hero. Those first 2 minutes will be the deciding factor.

 

[z1ggy]

Last night some noob in a pub told me while I was NP that I wasn't "doing anything for the team" even though I wasn't dying, he died more than me, and I was using my trap spell to hold heroes while our Riki came in and finished him off. My role was more of a support because we had a Riki and SB.

People think if you don't have massive kills and are pwning everybody, that you suck. It resulted in a verbal shouting match where I told him to stop getting butt hurt and then he told me he was going to fuck my mom's dirty wise and beautiful woman. Lol.

 

[Zeze]

You can't listen to every pubtards and let them get to you.

Mute and enjoy.

 

[Zeze]

Nyx isn't always required mid.
Bane, if done right in the first 2 minutes in the game, can pretty much beat any mid hero. Those first 2 minutes will be the deciding factor.

Eeehhhh depends on what the enemy mid is.

Nyx doesn't need mid, he's OP anywhere. That being said, there are far more heroes Nyx can outlane mid than Bane.

Scepter is a big NO NO on Bane. They should delete Scepter on him- the worst item choice next to Necro's Scepter.

 

[z1ggy]

You can't listen to every pubtards and let them get to you.

Mute and enjoy.

I just get annoyed when people have a serious freak out over a public played game of any type. This isn't your job, this isn't for money so stfu.

On another note, I played SF 2 more times. Got owned and then I read some reviews on him then watched a youtube vid. Next time I played solo mid, got a bottle, boots, SB and desolater, and proceeded to house people.

 

[BergeLSU]

This was against a Storm Spirit, by the way. Bane's biggest downfall as a mid hero is his inability to have rune control. He can't push the lane at all, so most mids can keep him back on his side of the river. I don't think we would have won with Nyx mid, but it was a disaster all around, as it so often is in All Random.

 

[Chiropteran]

I just get annoyed when people have a serious freak out over a public played game of any type. This isn't your job, this isn't for money so stfu.

You are arguing with the wrong guy

Zeze is the player who will freak out and berate you if you build your items wrong, deviating from the standard "best build" in any way. Don't dare suggest that bkb isn't the best possible item in every case, and never even consider making an hp regen item!

Nyx doesn't need mid, he's OP anywhere

Only in your terrible low-elo games. Pro players have figured out how to handle Nyx. On day you will get better, don't worry

A tip: try using wards.

 

[Zeze]

Only in your terrible low-elo games. Pro players have figured out how to handle Nyx. On day you will get better, don't worry

A tip: try using wards.

Wow, Chiro has now gone down to the levels of raging pub noobs of Dota. Outright calling others who are far better than him 'noobs'.

This is the guy who hasn't touched all heroes, still asks about basic mechanics, and trolls everyone here with his awful, just awful mindset.

Look at this response, did he just call ME low-elo games?

Oh man those empty insults. I think I broke him.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

I am finding I am generally too good for the high tier games and too shitty for the very high tier games. I just want some good match ups. =/

 

[Chiropteran]

Nyx doesn't need mid, he's OP anywhere.

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/features/3246-lone-druid-crushes-through-ti3-west-magnus-struggling


That is funny, I don't see any Nyx Assassin.

Somehow, when a pro team picks Spirit Breaker and wins with him, it doesn't prove that spirit breaker is a good hero.

But apparently, by NOT picking Nyx assassin, it proves that Nyx is totally OP.


Okay, perhaps it's just the high end players that can handle Nyx, maybe he is more of a noob stomper?

http://dotabuff.com/heroes/nyx-assassin
53.8% win rate, not terrible

http://dotabuff.com/heroes/spirit-breaker
Spirit Breaker's 58.2% isn't OP at all, but Nyx is?

I guess Zeze uses funny math.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Who was talking about Spirit Breaker? They're both obscene pub stompers.

 

[Zeze]

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/features/3246-lone-druid-crushes-through-ti3-west-magnus-struggling


That is funny, I don't see any Nyx Assassin.

Somehow, when a pro team picks Spirit Breaker and wins with him, it doesn't prove that spirit breaker is a good hero.

But apparently, by NOT picking Nyx assassin, it proves that Nyx is totally OP.


Okay, perhaps it's just the high end players that can handle Nyx, maybe he is more of a noob stomper?

http://dotabuff.com/heroes/nyx-assassin
53.8% win rate, not terrible

http://dotabuff.com/heroes/spirit-breaker
Spirit Breaker's 58.2% isn't OP at all, but Nyx is?

I guess Zeze uses funny math.

You really distort and forget people's comments. You dimwit.

Go back to the whole talk about Dotabuff and how majority and casuals skew. It's probably about 300 responses back.

I bet you didn't even read it.

Garbage sicko. Just awful... so awful. How do you hold basic conversations with people in real life?

 

[Chiropteran]

Who was talking about Spirit Breaker? They're both obscene pub stompers.

I made a comment about him several pages back and Zeze exploded in rage and claimed he was a bad hero and never even saw play until his "recent" buffs, which Zeze later admitted occurred nearly a year ago.

 

[Chiropteran]

back to the whole talk about Dotabuff and how majority and casuals skew.

I also linked to the international qualifiers data.

Are you trying to argue that the pro teams playing there are casuals?

 

[Zeze]

There is a reason why no one is talking to you now in this forum. You have proven yourself insane.

 

[Zeze]

I made a comment about him several pages back and Zeze exploded in rage and claimed he was a bad hero and never even saw play until his "recent" buffs, which Zeze later admitted occurred nearly a year ago.

Whoa whoa, calm down crazy. When did I 'admit'? A year is recently in Dota world, I corrected you.

When did I say SB is a bad hero, crazy? How many times did I repeat that I never said it?

Please point it to me where I said he's a bad hero.

You are crazy. And awful at this game too. Tells ME I'm at low-elo out of desperation, lol.

 

[Chiropteran]

Whoa whoa, calm down crazy. When did I 'admit'? A year is recently in Dota world

No it isn't. I pointed out games where pro players rushed a linken's in past internationals, (not this years) and you said something to the effect of that was ancient and no longer applies to the current game. Funny your opinion of recent changes to fit your argument.

When did I say SB is a bad hero, crazy? How many times did I repeat that I never said it?

Please point it to me where I said he's a bad hero.

SB was a trash tier up until his recent buffs

You are crazy. And awful at this game too. Tells ME I'm at low-elo out of desperation, lol.

If you can't handle a nyx assassin, you are. He isn't OP. He is fine in my elo. He is fine at the pro level. Is there some magically special mid-high Zeze-only elo area where Nyx becomes super powerful? I doubt it, more likely you just haven't figured out how to counter him.

 

[CWRMadcat]

Whoa whoa, calm down crazy. When did I 'admit'? A year is recently in Dota world, I corrected you.

When did I say SB is a bad hero, crazy? How many times did I repeat that I never said it?

Please point it to me where I said he's a bad hero.

You are crazy. And awful at this game too. Tells ME I'm at low-elo out of desperation, lol.

I was tempted to interject, but I was reminded by what LSUBerge posted yesterday. All this silly back and forth just clutters up the thread with stuff that isn't really too important to potential newcomers. You know he's got no clue, just leave it be.

 

[CWRMadcat]

I am finding I am generally too good for the high tier games and too shitty for the very high tier games. I just want some good match ups. =/

I totally get what you're saying. Landslide wins and losses get pretty old quickly . Maybe it has to do with all the influx of new players post release.

 

[Zeze]

I also linked to the international qualifiers data.

Are you trying to argue that the pro teams playing there are casuals?

This kid is totally off the rockers.

1. This garbage argues that SB is god-tier because he was used as a pocket pick and stomped Navi once (such snowball games happen often not just in Dota, but major sports). Then this crazy guy in his fantasy world argues SB made all the difference (it was the TA & someone else that had ridiculous kills, not SB).

2. Then this crazy guy links Dotabuff, a database that accumulates all the bad casuals and where majority statistics reign supreme, as the 'proof' that SB & Linkens has high winrate in pubs. NO REALLY? That's the whole point. We've been telling him time and time and time and... TIME again, how low pubs are dominated by such hero/items. And they plain don't work in high level pubs and pro games.

3. Of course, this crazy guy is going to ignore his embarrassment and repeat #2 again just today. What is wrong with you?

4. Then uses the TI3 qualifier info about how Nyx is a bad bad hero and SB is good. WHAT? SB is not even CLOSE on anyone's radar. Nyx reigns supreme for over a half a year, then he had to get nerfed. And he's still played.

5. I bet you my savings that this crazy guy is going to incorrectly psycho-accuse me for saying SB is bad again, watch. He's a solid hero since the buff. I've been saying this from day 0. What is wrong with this guy? He doesn't even know what he's arguing at. He's just blindly off his rocker with his emotions running wild.

6. Of course not 1 person agree with him. About 5-6 of us all patiently tried to teach him about BKB and why Ring of Health naked is bad. And how it only works in his garbage tiers. Then he reveals his utterly embarassing Dotabuff.

7. This crazy guy argues 1v1 SF scenario where RoH on SF would beat a regular SF. Tons of crafted replies are thrown at him over 3 weeks. He doesn't get it and says he knows better. Later he reveals he doesn't play 1v1... OR never touched SF. Wow, psycho all along.

8. Now he's outright throwing empty insults about how Nyx is trash, and how wards counter him, and how I'm 'bad elo player'. Wow, just wow.

You can't even begin to fathom why Nyx is strong. It's not because pubtrash like you go mid with him and buy dagon and get countered by wards. It's his skills are hyper-efficient with no items and he's played as 4/5 position (if you even know what this is). And the sheer fact that poor enemy supports have to continuously buy detection just for him alone makes Nyx a strong contender.

Competitive Hero Tier List- May 2013 (hey look, Nyx top tier)

Competitive Hero Tier List- June 2013 (hey look, Nyx top tier).

Competitive Hero Tier List- JULY 2013 (hey! fresh this month! Nyx top tier)

...hmm am I cherry picking data?

Let's take a look at April 2013. (Whop, Nyx top tier back then)

How about Feb & March 2013? (Top tier again, he was strongest around this time)

This is COMPETITIVE hero tier list that encompasses all pro games of various tournaments of Raidcall D2L, The Defense, Premiere League, GEST, Nexon, Superleague, etc.

9. Do you even read your god damn own article? That TI3 qualifier gosugamers analysis only showcased the very top 5 bans and picks, then least played heroes. Nyx was trailing in 6-10th spot all along. You are crazy. Your views are twisted and cherry picked with emotional rage.

Don't you ever bring up Dotabuff again. That's your garbage world, the world of Linken, Ring of Healths, and BKB/Linken combos. That's like saying Corolla is the fastest car because everyone drives them, not Ferrari. Absolutely ignorant. And I've told you this before, read it again.

You should try being humble if you're so new. You are quite bad (your dotabuff). I mean this with no ego- almost 90% of things you've said here are near-objectively wrong.

And no, you should thank US. Your awful yet insistent ignorance would've been eaten alive in all other Dota forums where it's not as tolerating and accepting of noobs.

I'll tone down my so-called 'arrogance' towards you, if you learn to be humble and shut up once in awhile and think why no one agrees with you.

Who am I kidding. Ignore all the wrongs we've corrected you and this very post. Go cue your crazy replies again. No one is with you. We all know how much full of crap you are for someone who's so terribly badly new at this game.

You are not special. You are not some revolutionary strategist who knows better what pros don't know. You are just another awful noob who builds Linkens on Mirana (vs non target enemy team) and suffer from some serious Dunning-Kreuger effect. Now go on with your crazy replies again.