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[Mr. Pedantic]

i have no idea how new day/night cycle will effect ns..
he sud be lvl 4-5 if he is mid.. i think if its 4 it will be hard for him 2 gank, if 5 he will be ok.

but after that his game will completely change

I dunno, I think by 4 minutes a Nightstalker should have at least gotten level 5. Besides, Nightstalker doesn't really need 6 to gank.

 

[Turbonium]

I'll log on this afternoon~ 4-5pm EST.

You totally didn't. Argh.

 

[{bad}]

The new buyback changes are reflected on your gold panel now. When you buyback, the gold icon will glow red for the time period during which you will not be able to gain any gold from creeps or other sources of unreliable gold. The icon will revert to normal when the time ends.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

The new buyback changes are reflected on your gold panel now. When you buyback, the gold icon will glow red for the time period during which you will not be able to gain any gold from creeps or other sources of unreliable gold. The icon will revert to normal when the time ends.

I don't think the buyback changes that that big. Most buybacks are for enemy kills, i.e. reliable gold. The only heroes I know who you might consider buyback on just to farm are Alchemist and Anti-mage.

 

[Turbonium]

Dota 2 story of the day:

Weaver who thinks it's smarter to go straight to Linken's and get no boots at all before that.

"Screw that Slark and his regen" he says.
"If you had boots, he wouldn't have gotten away" I say.

He doesn't respond. Figures.

This is why I hate playing support as support. You do your job, and you get idiots who don't do their job. You decide to play support as a semicarry and skip a few wards here and there and take some farm, and if you lose, the same idiots who don't get boots until 35 minutes blame you for the loss. Fuckin' Dota, I'm telling you.

 

[{bad}]

I don't think the buyback changes that that big. Most buybacks are for enemy kills, i.e. reliable gold. The only heroes I know who you might consider buyback on just to farm are Alchemist and Anti-mage.

nope most of players keep gold for it . usually 2-3 core heroes always have bb in competitive plays

 

[{bad}]

Riki can now cast spells and use items without breaking Permanent Invisibility.

i thought if he damages/attacks we could see him

 

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[Turbonium]

Lawl.

 

[Turbonium]

Guys, any tips on playing Dota without losing your faith in humanity at the same time? I keep running into complete tools on it.

 

[Juddog]

Guys, any tips on playing Dota without losing your faith in humanity at the same time? I keep running into complete tools on it.

That's just the way it is; I had some games last night that almost made me lose faith in humanity also.

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Details: Playing AR (all random), I knew the game would be bad when immediately this guy starts complaining that he got Dazzle. Throughout the whole game he is cursing into the mic, saying how Dazzle sucks, feeds the enemy (final score 0-18), then the last ten minutes complains about how DOTA2 is "broken" with obviously broken heroes. Throughout the match the team mentioned that he's support, etc. but he just won't stop complaining.

Then we had someone random invoker who says "what do all these do?" and "how do I work this?", etc.. Game lasted 50 minutes somehow. Then we had an Enchantress who just talks smack to the team, calling everybody horrible, etc., and during final 10 minutes of the game just AFK's at the fountain.

 

[Clinkster]

New patch is out on the offical client.

Navi vs Speed should be interesting. They have to play on this new patch now.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/11667/

 

[Turbonium]

New patch is out on the offical client.

Navi vs Speed should be interesting. They have to play on this new patch now.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/11667/

My first game with the new patch, I got matched with 3 Russians and a Hispanic on US East. And yes, the stereotypes all held true.

The best patch ever would probably ban Russians from joining our servers. Same to South Americans. Like, I'm no racist, but they act so idiotic more often than not.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

Game 3 of Speed vs. Na'Vi is on now, currently in the picking phase.

 

[Zeze]

New patch is out on the offical client.

Navi vs Speed should be interesting. They have to play on this new patch now.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/11667/

God I love Mondays where I can work from home.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x153r8y_d2cl-english-broadcast_videogames?start=217 (third game being drafted now)

- Navi picked NS 3 times in a row. When NS is level 4, it's night time. Off he goes hunting at 4th min.

- Bat is still picked despite his massive nerf of -10 base dmg (cannot lane & last hit) & ult range is practically melee. He still made big plays doing his thing.

- Shadow Shamn just picked! His ult has been buffed over 2-3 times since last year. Finally he gets some recognition. Hopefully his ult really pushes hard & stings. Just last patch, the ult was 6 sticks of gold feed.

- VIPER PICKED! He was a total trash tier even in pubs. Now his orb is 0 cd from level 1.

 

[mjd]

i would much prefer if the language preference were enforced. Getting foreigners on USEast who can't speak or type english is aggravating for communicating teamwork.

I mean, alt-pinging the map 20 times at once is great to blow off steam, but it doesn't help anyone.

 

[Robert Munch]

I wonder what was the mindset for reducing XP gained off of camp spawns now. Seem to be significant and the medium camp was changed to small now.

 

[Zeze]

I wonder what was the mindset for reducing XP gained off of camp spawns now. Seem to be significant and the medium camp was changed to small now.

-Jungling is actually FASTER now at early game (they also got weaker, not just less gold/exp), but less overall resource mid/late game.

-Solo offlaners (if they still exist) got HUGE boost. They can just leech off EXP since camps exp is shared to ALL heroes of both team, not whose team killed it.

-No more offlaners, no more defensive trilane.

-Exp range was boosted another 100 range.. now it's 1300 or something. Safer for leeching.

-No more pulling since med camp is now just ez camp

-This means no more abandoned offlane (some pro teams just don't send anyone to the offlane to mitigate the losses).

-This essentially changes the trilane + solo mid + solo offlane. Either trilanes will be played for different purpose or dual top and bot is more viable.

Good things to freshen things up. <3 Icefrog's ways.

 

[Turbonium]

i would much prefer if the language preference were enforced. Getting foreigners on USEast who can't speak or type english is aggravating for communicating teamwork.

I mean, alt-pinging the map 20 times at once is great to blow off steam, but it doesn't help anyone.

That's what I just said.

 

[mjd]

That's what I just said.

Yes, we agree <high 5>!

I also wish there were a setting for voice-com users too. But really, I just need to get myself a regular team.

 

[smackababy]

-Solo offlaners (if they still exist) got HUGE boost. They can just leech off EXP since camps exp is shared to ALL heroes of both team, not whose team killed it.

I understood this to mean if they were in XP range. So, if someone is pulling, and you go kill get the last this, you won't steal their XP, but both of you will get it.

 

[Turbonium]

Yes, we agree <high 5>!

I also wish there were a setting for voice-com users too. But really, I just need to get myself a regular team.

I'm looking for a regular team as well. Do you play on East?

 

[Zeze]

I understood this to mean if they were in XP range. So, if someone is pulling, and you go kill get the last this, you won't steal their XP, but both of you will get it.

No. Now regardless of who kills the neutral camp, the EXP is given to anyone whose EXP range is in the range.

So BH (or anyone) can just gain EXP just by standing nearby and doing absolutely nothing.

At the same time, this doesn't even matter much since stack/pulling was destroyed anyway (it's now ez camp + creeps meet much closer to offlaner's tower)

 

[Clinkster]

I understood this to mean if they were in XP range. So, if someone is pulling, and you go kill get the last this, you won't steal their XP, but both of you will get it.

Yes.

 

[smackababy]

No. Now regardless of who kills the neutral camp, the EXP is given to anyone whose EXP range is in the range.

So BH (or anyone) can just gain EXP just by standing nearby and doing absolutely nothing.

At the same time, this doesn't even matter much since stack/pulling was destroyed anyway (it's now ez camp + creeps meet much closer to offlaner's tower)

I took what you said as when a jungler kills a neutral camp, the XP is given out to the team regardless of position.