Attack speed to get a bash is more important than movement speed to increase it's damage. Old school pubbie SB would have you get BoT, S&Y, DoE and MoM when MoM is really the only one of those items that is worth getting (DoE is arguable).
Don't forget, For SB a percentage of Movement Speed gets converted into damage For Greater Bash (up to 40% of movement speed = extra damage). With MOM's AS = good for better chance of Greater Bash AND MOM's higher Movement Speed = Higher Greater Bash Damage
I find it hilarious that some players in pub games think that picking viper or drow is a necessity for your team to win. I had a game last night where the guy on our team was saying "someone pick drow quick, someone pick drow, noooooo they got drow!" into the microphone, as if drow was a team killer.
I then proceeded to stomp the entire enemy team after randoming Slardar. Their drow melted like butter in every team fight, since I would pop speed, pop the armor-reducing ult on drow, run up and slam, then pound away (bashing in the proces) and watch her health drop in two seconds flat over and over. I went after drow first every team fight engagement and just trashed the hero, knowing that her ult is useless at close range, plus Slardar closes the gap so quickly with his speed and locks her down using bash & slam.
I'm going to start picking slardar now whenever I see the enemy team picking drow; it seems like he's the perfect anti-drow. By the end of the game I had 25-5 in terms of kills / deaths; I was getting reckless towards the end once I got my Heart of Tarrasque which is where the 5 deaths came from.
Don't forget, For SB a percentage of Movement Speed gets converted into damage For Greater Bash (up to 40% of movement speed = extra damage). With MOM's AS = good for better chance of Greater Bash AND MOM's higher Movement Speed = Higher Greater Bash Damage
Yep. MoM is a bargain at 1900g considering how well it ties in with greater bash (frequency and damage). Pick up a bkb after that and you're set.
Neener neener.. completely dota free and don't even crave it.
No raging and sob stories due to those stupid ass noob teammates from me.
After about 1000 hours into this game... I finally learn to accept the fact that you will lose 50% of your games no matter what... no point in being discombobulated and I learn just being silent is golden and just have fun by laughing at the ragers and crybabies.
I was watching a level 4 Pudge with 30 games absolutely demolish the enemy team, front page match, in Very Hard. Obviously the Pudge was a smurf account from one of the EU teams, his style reminded me of Dendi, but still that goes to show how quickly Valve will boost you up to the correct opponents.
The system in place will boost you to the zone you should be in to get a roughly 50% win rate, so I don't get why some people are super upset about that. Personally I am fine with being in the low skill bracket at 30 games; I'm still bad at last hitting, I still don't have all of the item builds memorized, etc..
It could be that the pudge queued with v high elo friends and was put in the match for that reason, it might not have been his own elo. I find it unlikely that even an amazing player could win enough games in a row to get into v high elo so quickly, law of averages suggests that even the best players will lose a few games because of teammates feeding raging quitting or just plain trolling.
I'm so sick of manning up and playing the *only* support only to get yelled at by the entire team when we get shit stomped because of their absurdly shitty picks (eg, 4 bottom tier carries, stacking invis heroes, etc.). I find I'm better off just picking a good carry or some sort of 3ish initiator type and hoping I can just pubstomp.
This guy literally stomped the entire other team by himself; this was a front-page game, with 500 viewers, of all players in very high. He had literally 30 games to his record and was level 4. The final score was something like 25-6, with about 18 of those kills being attributed to this pudge. His playstyle reminded me exactly of watching Dendi play Pudge. It was easy to see why he got put into very high elo after only a handful of games after watching him play, and even in very high he seemed to outclass everybody else on both teams.
Spiritbreaker is our second biggest mover, and while his 6.78 buff to Charge of Darkness has only helped him to see a tiny bit of competitive play, it has succeeded in turning him into the preeminent pubstomper of the patch. Due to sample size issues, the win rates I have aren’t super precise, but based off what I do have it’s rather likely that Spiritbreaker is at least in the top 5 heroes in Very High rated matches
Very strong hero, elitist noobs that have played the game for years and are still stuck in the normal bracket will argue that he is just a pubstomp hero and nothing more.
aaaaaand I lose another game due to broken Phantom Lancer. Yay.
I called it a month and a half ago, and someone (*cough*, Zeze) thought I was an idiot for it:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1lua8x/why_is_spirit_breakers_winrate_so_high/
http://dotametrics.wordpress.com/2013/09/02/6-78-patch-retrospective/
Spiritbreaker is good, probably needs a slight nerf (or just the bugs fixed), but at the very least he is a strong tier 1 hero.
Feels good to know my instincts were correct all along.
Quoting the highest rated post in the reddit thread:
Sounds like some people I've argued with, haha.
His split push is amazing. One illusion can overrun a lane pretty easily. I wouldn't say broken, just really annoying if not dealt with.What's broken about PL?
What I don't understand is how they miss entirely what a pub stomp hero is. They even mention SB's very limited pickup in competitive play, then note his win rates in pub games...
His split push is amazing. One illusion can overrun a lane pretty easily. I wouldn't say broken, just really annoying if not dealt with.
There are counters to every hero; his split push may be pretty decent, but he can get shut down by the likes of Shadow Demon, Axe, and Earthshaker, plus some dust / wards.
Earthshaker basically turns PL's powers against him using his ult; the more illusions, the more the ult does damage, and with a simple ward you can see if he tries to illusion walk away and put a stomp on him hard. Basically Earthshaker is the perfect counter to Phantom Lancer.