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Turbonium

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happened a lot 2 me, whenever sme1 picked rubik or ds i was afraid 2 go 2 runes, but icefrog fixed it long ago
Um... it just happened to me moments ago... check the replay. Latest patch (minus the one that's about to go live).
 

Mr. Pedantic

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I just played a game where at the start, I went to check out bot rune, and Rubick showed up and used Telekinesis to put me up on the ridge, and I was stuck for the first bit of the game. Never seen that done before. Has anyone else? Match ID 349067553

Luckily, we destroyed them in the end, and did it ever feel good (given the Rubick was rude and a troll trying to make me angry in chat).

I never responded. I just pwned him. Lawl.

Yeah, I think it's happened to everyone.

It's been made harder, but it can still be done. The idea is to be aware of it so it doesn't happen to you again. It could get worse, trust me. In one pro match, they just camped around the hero so whenever he tried to TP they would stun him to cancel.
 

Turbonium

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Yeah, I think it's happened to everyone.

It's been made harder, but it can still be done. The idea is to be aware of it so it doesn't happen to you again. It could get worse, trust me. In one pro match, they just camped around the hero so whenever he tried to TP they would stun him to cancel.
How has it been made harder?

I'm just glad I kept my cool. If anything, it made me more hellbent to fucking win the game.
 

Mr. Pedantic

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How has it been made harder?

I'm just glad I kept my cool. If anything, it made me more hellbent to fucking win the game.

They've changed the area where you have to aim, and they've made the aimable area smaller. Now, instead of aiming units onto ledges, you have to aim them kind of beyond the ledge. This also means they have to be closer to the ledge than before.
 

Turbonium

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They've changed the area where you have to aim, and they've made the aimable area smaller. Now, instead of aiming units onto ledges, you have to aim them kind of beyond the ledge. This also means they have to be closer to the ledge than before.
Well, that's not difficult, considering I was ogre. His fat ass can be considered next to all parts of the map at once, amirite?
 

Turbonium

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As much as I like to stay classy in Dota games, sometimes you just have enough. I just played this hilariously entertaining game, despite the loss... I really wish replays saved chat logs so you could see how I totally trolled the two players on my team (who were obviously partied up together). Trust me, they deserved it.

I was bot as Ogre Magi, and gave all the farm to Chaos Knight who I was laning with at bot on Radiant. He still managed to suck and die a lot, etc. Fast forward about 12+ minutes or something, and I politely suggested everyone gets TPs and watch the minimap so that we're not constantly caught with our pants down when trying to defend (the situation called for it imho).

CK reacts badly and starts whining that I'm not placing enough wards etc., and that I should "shut up and do my job" and other general BS (funny thing is, I was placing wards as much as possible given my limited income). Given he drew first blood, I began to give zero fucks, and told him STFU since he's 0-7. Enter his friend, Necro, who further tells me I'm wrong etc. The Necro who is 0-4.

This is where it gets good:

I feign muting them both. I then proceed to say really funny/hurtful things to them, and make fun of them every time they die in allchat - they wouldn't stop responding, all raged. The trick was to never respond to them or give any indication I hadn't really muted them. This way, I can get the satisfaction of knowing I'm pushing their buttons, and enjoy every moment, without giving them the satisfaction of "responding" to me.

I'd say things like "I bet 10 bucks he's raging right now, he's so bad..." and it worked perfectly. And lucky for me, a player on the other team confirmed he was raging, so I could use that as "intelligence" to further make fun of him by going "oh he's raging? I knew it, lulz" etc.

It didn't take long for him to start intentionally feeding. He would just run his hero straight into the enemy base repeatedly. Too bad I had already reported them both for verbal abuse (yea, call me a hypocrite, but I really don't think I am one... I don't tell people to stfu out of frustration because I'm doing bad).

Oh, Dota. Sometimes, I wonder why I bother.
 

Zeze

Lifer
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Turbonium,

I dusted off my old Steam account just for you this morning. I STILL have the Octopus hat for Tide that you want.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/acf3passion/inventory/#570

You want it? See no crazy conspiracy about ignoring you. Pfft. (I think you need to take a breather).

Anyone else want my items? 8~ rares, 20 uncommons, and craptons of normal.
 

Turbonium

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Mar 15, 2003
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Turbonium,

I dusted off my old Steam account just for you this morning. I STILL have the Octopus hat for Tide that you want.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/acf3passion/inventory/#570

You want it? See no crazy conspiracy about ignoring you. Pfft. (I think you need to take a breather).

Anyone else want my items? 8~ rares, 20 uncommons, and craptons of normal.
I added you on Steam.

And what is this "breather" you speak of?
 

Zeze

Lifer
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You just seem to really... passionate about things here, including accusing me of ignoring you, keeping up my 'image', etc.

 

Zeze

Lifer
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@zeze do u buy tickets for tourneys or watch on twitch???

I'm ashamed to admit that I haven't spent a dime on Dota 2.

All the immortals and rares I had were from natural drops (played a fvckton).

I'm usually not available to watch streams on Twitch nor do I have an account. I just watch any highly praised games mentioned at reddit & BTS youtube channel.

[edit]

So I unquit Dota just last night just to play this crazy new patch on their test server. Here are my impressions on new Brood & BS:

(pasted from my reddit account- regarding how BS' buffs can be nerfs)
Yup, these are reasons and I was thinking of it too. In real game, it felt that way as well.
Most of the time, BS is ganking a single unit = he really needs that 45% MS, not stackable 28%.
And what do you know, in practice you're far far more likely to have only 1 stack MS boost when Rupturing.
He really needs Phase now. Treads is not good enough. He feels very sluggish unless he procs 2 stacks of Thirst.
Thirst losing the 3 second grace buff is a considerable nerf. Usually it's just enough to help him escape.
All these Youtube videos of him zooming around give people a wrong impression. Having 5 enemy heroes below 50% is as common as landing 5-man Blackhole. Most of the time, you just have 1-3 stacks, and mere seconds of 5 stacks. And you need 2 stacks just to break even with the older Thirst.

As for Brood, her 0 collision is AMAZING now. She can just rape face with ZERO hindrance. It's like Night Stalker with permanent night + permanent Phase boots. As for pushing power, she's just as vulnerable from crapton of AOE. She still remains very situational, but she can sure kill easily.
 
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Zeze

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I feel the buffs given to some heroes is to try to push them to be picked by pros and tournament play...

Pretty much.

Remember Treant? Given same buffs over 4 versions... 'Please pick Treant!' says Icefrog.

6.78
Leech Seed icon.png Leech Seed
Slow increased from 24% to 28%.
Healing effect no longer ends when the target dies.
6.77c
Living Armor icon.png Living Armor damage reduction is now done for all instances of damage that reduce its charges.
6.77
Damage increased by 10.
Leech Seed icon.png Leech Seed cooldown decreased from 18/16/14/12 to 16/14/12/10.
Overgrowth icon.png Overgrowth cooldown decreased from 80 to 70.
Living Armor icon.png Living Armor
damage instances increased from 6 to 7.
can be cast through the minimap (only considers heroes and towers/rax in this mode).
6.76c
Living Armor icon.png Living Armor
Cooldown and duration decreased from 20 to 15.
Manacost decreased from 30/35/40/45 to 25.
6.76
Strength growth increased from 2.8 to 3.3.
Living Armor icon.png Living Armor HP regen increased from 4/6/8/10 to 4/7/10/13.
 

smackababy

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Randomizing Roshan's respawn time was best change for competitive plays.

How is that the best change? I think randomizing anything like that is the opposite. Should they randomize when the runes spawn?

Before, teams would know when Rosh is up. Now, it is a guessing game. I imagine it will lead to more encounters with teams checking (which is probably the reason for a lot of these changes: creating more action), but I don't like it at all.
 

Zeze

Lifer
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How is that the best change? I think randomizing anything like that is the opposite. Should they randomize when the runes spawn?

Before, teams would know when Rosh is up. Now, it is a guessing game. I imagine it will lead to more encounters with teams checking (which is probably the reason for a lot of these changes: creating more action), but I don't like it at all.

I like it.

- Throws wrench into the tired-to-true Rosh zone-out play down to the second.

- Some players will be out of position, some will be unprepared.

Overall a good change up from what's been status since the history of Dota.
 

{bad}

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How is that the best change? I think randomizing anything like that is the opposite. Should they randomize when the runes spawn?

Before, teams would know when Rosh is up. Now, it is a guessing game. I imagine it will lead to more encounters with teams checking (which is probably the reason for a lot of these changes: creating more action), but I don't like it at all.

like zeze said now some people will be out of positions, maybe carry wants 2 farm so he will be ncs while his team gets caught etc. now they won't come at exactly at 10 mins so game is less predictable. all these changes are good.

i didn't like the nerf on ncs. specially how it will change pulling of creeps. now supports will get hard time getting xp. gold won't be so much problem though
 

{bad}

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i have no idea how new day/night cycle will effect ns..
he sud be lvl 4-5 if he is mid.. i think if its 4 it will be hard for him 2 gank, if 5 he will be ok.

but after that his game will completely change
 

Zeze

Lifer
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like zeze said now some people will be out of positions, maybe carry wants 2 farm so he will be ncs while his team gets caught etc. now they won't come at exactly at 10 mins so game is less predictable. all these changes are good.

i didn't like the nerf on ncs. specially how it will change pulling of creeps. now supports will get hard time getting xp. gold won't be so much problem though

What's exciting/sad is that trilanes are effectively dead. So is solo offlaning.

It'll be dual bot & top lane and solo mid most likely.

I don't know if it's a good thing. I loved the concept of offlane/suicide lane and the resulting offlaners like Weaver, Clock, WR, Timber, etc.

Nothing in Dota is more satisfying than winning offlane with those heroes- the lane you're SUPPOSED to lose.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
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What's exciting/sad is that trilanes are effectively dead. So is solo offlaning.

It'll be dual bot & top lane and solo mid most likely.

I don't know if it's a good thing. I loved the concept of offlane/suicide lane and the resulting offlaners like Weaver, Clock, WR, Timber, etc.

Nothing in Dota is more satisfying than winning offlane with those heroes- the lane you're SUPPOSED to lose.

I like the huge changes. Going to change the entire meta of the game which is fun. I like it when Icefrog just says,"I'm bored of watching XXX, so I'm changing it." Keeps the game fresh.
 

Destiny

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I like the huge changes. Going to change the entire meta of the game which is fun. I like it when Icefrog just says,"I'm bored of watching XXX, so I'm changing it." Keeps the game fresh.

I think he likes watching Dendi's pudge hooks (Pudge + Blink Dagger) and Tom and Jerry Cartoons ( Racecar Blood Seeker)
 
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