I don't label it a "conservative" problem. I label it a GOP problem. They've been largely taken over by a form of political view that caters to the brain dead type of voter that thinks the recent MT candidate body slamming a reporter is a good thing. There are still legitimate conservatives in the GOP, but they need to actually show some backbone and say enough is enough. When the party of Reagan is more likely to side with Putin over [insert liberal here], you have a serious fucking problem.
The body count of your "progress" says different, or do you not "history"
even the dead children at Ariana Grande concerts in the last week are the result of your "progress".
Recklessly Interfering with mechanisms which are the foundations of our societies they do not really understand because of their utopian dreams. The consequences haven't been theoretical for some time now, and yet the "progressives" double down. Their ideas are rendered outdated by the test of the real world, and the body count is only ever going to grow because of the damage they have done based on their naivety.
The only thing the left is resisting at this point is reality.
- Yes. I dont want fall into the "I blame MTV.." bucket but the way information propagates tofay and with so many platforms, how the hell is the singular human brain supposed to sort out ALL of the effen garbage? You need a university degree in fact checking to get there.You are witness to tribalism. I suspect its hyperactivity these past 13 some-odd years involves the internet and humanity's inability to process the partisanship emanating from it. Our brains have turned to mush via social media and 24/7 news channels...
If there is anything worse than losing a child, it is losing a child and having people taunt you over the loss.
That is what happened to the family of Noah Pozner, a 6-year-old with tousled brown hair and lollipop-red lips, the youngest of the 26 children and staff members gunned down in 2012 at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.
In the years since the massacre that shook the country and opened new anxiety over gun violence, the family has received hate-filled calls and violent emails from people who say they know the shooting was a hoax. Photos of their son — some with pornographic and anti-Semitic content — have been distributed on websites.
Family members who lost children at Sandy Hook say they find themselves twice victimized.
An unemployed waitress was arrested in December in Florida on charges of making death threats against Pozner, with repeated phone calls to his home in which she muttered ethnic and racial slurs and profanities. Another man is in Rikers Island prison in New York fighting transfer to Connecticut for a deluge of harassing phone calls to the home and office of the medical examiner who signed the coroner reports for Sandy Hook victims.
At a memorial run in 2015 in honor of slain teacher Vicki Soto, a 33-year-old Brooklyn, N.Y., man was arrested after police said he shoved a photo in the face of the victim’s younger sister, Jillian Soto, and demanded to know whether her sister really died.
Another man was convicted of stealing memorial signs erected in playgrounds to commemorate the dead children. He later called the children’s parents and said they shouldn’t mind because their children never existed.
No, it hasn't. The "conservative mind" is the same it's always been, as is the "liberal mind". What has changed are the news sources, which have become a lot more varied, and some of them are complete unreliable. People aren't any more tribalistic now than they used to be.
In an ideal world there would be shared set of facts, and people could then discuss what to do about those facts, which might differ depending on each persons ideology. This used to be the case, because there were only a few news outlets, and they all reported more or less the same things. Now it's no longer the case, with everyone getting a different set of "facts" from different sources, which makes it impossible to have a reasonable discussion about what to do.
All people are just as dumb as they've always been. No one including liberals wants to see anything another way because you get set in your ways growing up. Look at religion, dumb as shit right? People that grew up christian tend to be christians, people that grew up muslim tend to be muslim. All those dumb fucks fought each other for years in the crusades.
For once instead of jerking each other off the whole thread why don't you liberals try to see it the conservatives way? Not saying they're right, all my frothing at the mouth trump supporter buddies are dumber than a box of rocks but if we could all work together we wouldn't have the stupid fucking mess were in now.
When I find my soul-mate in android form, I'm out of here. A cabin in the mountains will do me just fine. Can you imagine living with a perfect physical specimen of your preferred gender(s) that could also do killer PVP.I wonder if this is a natural consequence of a creature being overstimulated. Humans evolved to live in a very different reality where community, real contact with real people, created boundries most understood. Just living was our evolutionary mandate and knowledge changed the way we lived, but we were still villages, towns and cities with occasional news from far away places, maybe even a hundred miles or more. Then having learned about the "big world" we went back to socializing and working.
Now it's a horn blaring in our ears with Twitter and Facebook and whatever, the "anti-social networks" as I've heard them described. In all the noise I can easily see how dysfunctional tribes form, like looking for like in an overwhelming world.
Feels- yes feels. It feels like some critical mass is being reached, some event coming but exactly what I'm not sure. Could it be that the social order might be replaced by a virtual one?
I think the point of all this has gone over your head, particularly with your last paragraph. We can't work together on things when we have no shared reality. I'm not going to try to see things from the perspective of people who think the Sandy Hook shooting was a hoax and who call the parents of the dead kids to tell them their kids are fake.
We can work through differences of opinion. We can't work through our disagreement on facts. There's no bridging such a wide chasm.
Well heres a liberal dumbass. You really think that all conservatives think sandy hook was a hoax?
You just made my point, every one sees things there way and no ones elses.
No, only a dumbass reads things into posts which are not there. I'll continue this discussion when you point out where I said "all conservatives think Sandy Hook was a hoax." Until then, you're not worthy of further discussion.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-sandy-hook-conspiracy-20170203-story.htmlWell you saying you won't reason with anyone because some conservatives believe sandy hook is a lie says other wise.
All people are just as dumb as they've always been. No one including liberals wants to see anything another way because you get set in your ways growing up. Look at religion, dumb as shit right? People that grew up christian tend to be christians, people that grew up muslim tend to be muslim. All those dumb fucks fought each other for years in the crusades.
For once instead of jerking each other off the whole thread why don't you liberals try to see it the conservatives way? Not saying they're right, all my frothing at the mouth trump supporter buddies are dumber than a box of rocks but if we could all work together we wouldn't have the stupid fucking mess were in now.
It's only more of a party problem now because the parties are more aligned with conservative/liberal ideal than ever. For example, I would hardly consider dixiecrats progressive/liberal, but they're republican now.
Conservatives like this were defending slavery, and segregation not too long ago. Same shit different day.
And you are done.
Well you saying you won't reason with anyone because some conservatives believe sandy hook is a lie says other wise.
I used Sandy Hook as a salient example. I don't just mean Sandy Hook. I meant the totality of unreason I see on the right, of which Sandy Hook is one of the more shocking examples. I've seen opinion polls that put Sandy Hook denial at 20-25% among conservatives, which is unreal for such a ridiculous theory. But that isn't even the most common. Birtherism is around 50%, and global warming is a hoax is closer to 60%. There are many others as well - vote rigging for example. And that is just conspiracy theories. They are many other forms of unreason on the right.
Don't get me wrong. Many liberals believe ridiculous things as well. Certain conspiracy theories are becoming more popular on the left. It's growing on the left. It just hasn't caught up with what we're seeing on the right. Not yet anyway. I rue the day when people who believe in science and reason will be a vanishingly small minority in this country. We'll become a second rate nation, at best.