I have a problem with that.
Your beliefs are the same as the terrorists. His might be more radical than yours, but when they took planes into buildings they did it "in the name of islam"
If you arent condemning the methods, you are agreeing with them, because if didnt like it, you would say something like, " I apologize for the terrorist attack that stemmed from radicals in my religion, that is not what we believe in and condemn the use of violence as a method of persuasion."
I will tread my own waters. There were jewish terrorists in british ruled area known today as israel. The actions were strictly condemned by the larger group of Jews in the area.
the Irgun, a group stemmed from Haganah, commited a terrorist attack by bombing the King David Hotel.
It was strictly condemned by other jew political groups
Fair warning people. Routan will cut and run if you come up with an evidence-based argument. He won't answer questions if they challenge his beliefs. If you're lucky, you'll see him thank other posters who share his opinions.
This guy is a Turk in Pakistan. It's not like he was visiting family. He probably got what he wanted. Not sure why this is a big deal unless someone can offer evidence he was handing out food or something.
What are your opinion on Jews? What about Israel?
lol, unlike some, i am not bound to Anandtech P&N and I do have a life. There is no reason to argue with those who do not want to have a discussion, rather only indulge in putting forth arguments to forward their own agendas. You are free to have your opinion about me
having a discussion is not waiting until others agree with your distorted point of view concerning muslims....
What is very irionic about this whole muslim thing is if muslims were as you say they are then you would think they would take a stand against muslim extremists.....
Instead by not taking a stand you have believe that perhaps they agree with the muslim extremists!! After all, everybody knows this!!
it is ironic you are telling a Muslim that his view is distorted about himself.
hi. you are free to think my point of view is distored concerning Muslims.
it is ironic you are telling a Muslim that his view is distorted about himself.
btw, can you please list which of your fore-parents took a stand against slavery? And please list where and when you took a stand against the poor educational standards of hispanics and african-americans here in America? drug abuse? how about prostitution? Gang-violence? Unemployment?
Thank you much.
No you misundestand which is the norm I guess for you...
So how many muslims do you speak for??
one, two, a thousand, a million.....
You see you are correct you are just one muslim.
So my point is still a very valid point!
No I am telling you your view is distorted about muslims in general...not necessarily yourself.
You are quite obviously in the minority...everybody knows that!!
You sure paint with a mighty wide brush. One could paint the Israelis with the same wide brush based on the actions of a few and you would cry foul.
Nah, its not ironic. You should read more here. You will learn a lot about yourself and your religion. From people who's RL exposure to Muslims is often as profound as ordering a pita or a pack of cigarettes in a Pakistani night shop. How do you argue against such wealth of knowledge .
How many Muslims do you know personally? From my experience Muslims are far more moderate than radical. I know far more Jews that are filled with hate than I do Muslims.
You miss my point totally...but thats OK....
This has nothing to do with being filled with hate or even being filled with love.
This is about a tiny group of radical, extremist Muslims running rough shod over a huge group of moderate Muslims!
The point is that moderate Muslims are far more numerous as a group than the radical, extremist Muslims which as a group are a small minority compared to the moderate muslims. yet the moderate muslims refuse or are afraid to let their massive vopice be heard. There are a few who have spoken up...but the voice is very tiny!!
My experience as a Jew and an Israeli is that there are a lot of Israeli`s who care about the Palestinian people having a homeland, but given hamas as the representative of the Palestinian peopl, we just shake our head...
I know many Muslims who are real fine people......but when I ask them why as a majority they don`t stand up against the radical, extemist Muslims they turn away....
something is totally not right with that picture...
You miss my point totally...but thats OK....
This has nothing to do with being filled with hate or even being filled with love.
This is about a tiny group of radical, extremist Muslims running rough shod over a huge group of moderate Muslims!
The point is that moderate Muslims are far more numerous as a group than the radical, extremist Muslims which as a group are a small minority compared to the moderate muslims. yet the moderate muslims refuse or are afraid to let their massive vopice be heard. There are a few who have spoken up...but the voice is very tiny!!
My experience as a Jew and an Israeli is that there are a lot of Israeli`s who care about the Palestinian people having a homeland, but given hamas as the representative of the Palestinian peopl, we just shake our head...
I know many Muslims who are real fine people......but when I ask them why as a majority they don`t stand up against the radical, extemist Muslims they turn away....
something is totally not right with that picture...
lol, unlike some, i am not bound to Anandtech P&N and I do have a life. There is no reason to argue with those who do not want to have a discussion, rather only indulge in putting forth arguments to forward their own agendas. You are free to have your opinion about me
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30869585&postcount=14
This post makes it pretty clear that typically YOU are the one that doesn't want to have a discussion. Most P&N posters don't change their minds very often, but unlike you they tend to at least pretend they want to have a discussion.
lol. being an Israeli, why dont you tell the rest of us of your outcry for decades of systematically denying the Palestinians their homeland before Hamas came to power?
are you also going to blame Hamas for building settlements in the West Bank?
it was ISRAEL and the United States that wanted a free and fair "election". there werent any outcries when Hamas stood for election, heck, they were freely allowed to stand for elections. When they won, Israel just had a nice excuse to maintain their grip on the Gaza strip.
hahaha, bullshit.
ridiculous that of all people, YOU can complain about Muslims not "speaking out" or "standing up". Go live in the Gaza strip for a year before you muster up the bloody arrogance again to point fingers.
uh, my beliefs are not the same as any terrorist. because some nut used a religion to commit a terrorist act does not necessitate any apology from me.
nonetheless, you are free to google muslim leaders denouncing terrorist attacks around the world. heck, i'll even do it for you:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GPCK_enUS382US382&q=muslims+condemning+9%2f11
Says the guy who defends a brutal apartheid regime. Some terrorists are suicide bombers, others rely on cluster bombs. Both are evil.BUT THEY ARE.
You pray to the same fictitious book the terrorist do.
The ideas behind a terrorist do not come from thin air.
the islamic terrorists today hate the west because it is free, modern, fair.
all of those things, true islam isnt. That is why they hate the west, not some other reason.
so they commit terrorism on behalf of what they believe in, the islamic religion.
you also pray to this book, making your beliefs the same.
All I see you doing is trying to distort the truth that you and terrorists are comparable. stop being dense. Unless you want that label, you should start figuring out ways to distance yourself from barbaric, primitive, medieval lifestyle
Says the guy who defends a brutal apartheid regime. Some terrorists are suicide bombers, others rely on cluster bombs. Both are evil.
Tell that to the folks in the occupied territories. Tell that to the folks in Lebonon still dealing with Israeli cluster bombs (war crime, that). Pretending they aren't being oppressed under the Israeli boot doesn't make it not so and it doesn't absolve you of your guilt in supporting the crime. Muslim terrorists are evil. Israeli terrorists are evil.lol took this thread long enough for israel to be invoked.
im pretty sure israel isnt against freedom, fairness, and it is modern.
How many Muslims do you know personally? From my experience Muslims are far more moderate than radical. I know far more Jews that are filled with hate than I do Muslims.
why should *I* apologise for 9/11 or any terrorist attack? this stupid claim has been regurgitated non-stop for almost a decade now. I wasnt involved in it. I didnt do ANYTHING that I should be apologetic about.
You can believe what you want. There are radical people in the world, and they arent tied to any particular religious belief system. They are just tied to *a* belief system. Such as yourself: you are a radical who has a belief system that all Muslims are radicals