News The Verdict

nutxo

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May 20, 2001
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I don't disagree so much with the verdict as the trial. I tried to watch as much as I could but I think it will be a mistrial.


There is no agree or disagree. The man received a fair trial, and might get a new trial on appeal. The jury said he was guilty, I accept their decision.
 

Captante

Lifer
Oct 20, 2003
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I managed to avoid coverage as much as possible.

I agree with (and am also relieved by) the verdict.
 

highland145

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The video does it. Didn't pay much attention because, to get the true news, I would have to watch the whole trial. Like the gz trial, what the media spewed had nothing to do with the facts. Watched that whole one and almost felt sorry for the prosecution.

Obviously, state law, but 3 convictions on the same crime?
 

13Gigatons

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GF health and drug use was an issue and I really do think that Chuavin was distracted by the crowd....that said kneeling on his neck was pretty stupid.
 
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ultimatebob

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I agree with the decision, but there is a part of me that wonders if there were a few jurors who were worried about being murdered by a mob waiting outside for them if they voted to acquit him. Thankfully, we'll never know.

But, yeah... wrong forum.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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The video does it. Didn't pay much attention because, to get the true news, I would have to watch the whole trial. Like the gz trial, what the media spewed had nothing to do with the facts. Watched that whole one and almost felt sorry for the prosecution.

Obviously, state law, but 3 convictions on the same crime?

Exactly.I get manslaughter...but Murder 2 and Murder 3 as well?

I think the jury was too afraid of the riotous consequences if they'd have voted any other way...especially after Maxine Waters' recent tirade.
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
Nov 25, 2012
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Exactly.I get manslaughter...but Murder 2 and Murder 3 as well?
There's more than one road to murder. Even if one believes the knee didn't do it, not administering the naloxone when duty calls would have.

The cops there have been equipped with naloxone spray in their equipment since 2018 since that area is indeed overdose central and has been for a while.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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There's more than one road to murder. Even if one believes the knee didn't do it, not administering the naloxone when duty calls would have.

The cops there have been equipped with naloxone spray in their equipment since 2018 since that area is indeed overdose central and has been for a while.

None the less...GF only died once.
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
Nov 25, 2012
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I thought it was more of a "pick one" situation?

Was he charged under state or federal law?
Minnesota state law.

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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Acquittal would have sparked massive rioting all over the country. That was in the air. Nobody had to tell the jurors that. All 3 charges? I don't know the ins and outs of the charges, that's legalese. 2nd degree involuntary manslaughter, 2nd degree murder, 3rd degree murder, I just don't know what these charges entail and they were never explained to me on TV news.

A positive thing is that it sends a message to law enforcement all over the country that you don't have carte blanche to do anything you want to black people and by corollary anyone else. Many people wearing a badge and having taken an oath and issued service weapons, tasers, pepper spray, handcuffs, etc. don't understand that.
 
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Torn Mind

Lifer
Nov 25, 2012
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Acquittal would have sparked massive rioting all over the country. That was in the air. Nobody had to tell the jurors that. All 3 charges? I don't know the ins and outs of the charges, that's legalese. 2nd degree involuntary manslaughter, 2nd degree murder, 3rd degree murder, I just don't know what these charges entail and they were never explained to me on TV news.

A positive thing is that it sends a message to law enforcement all over the country that you don't have carte blanche to do anything you want to black people and by corollary anyone else. Many people wearing a badge and having taken an oath and issued service weapons, tasers, pepper spray, handcuffs, etc. don't understand that.
It doesn't necessarily mean much has changed.

This is because this is killing number two in recent memory committed by this particular department. Just that the prior killing had much less video and that a Somali immigrant cop killed a white woman in a well-off part of Minneapolis. That he got convicted apparently did not rub off at all on the department's employees....

Allegedly, the deceased Justine Damond gave Mohamed Noor and his partner a scare and Noor fired at her and she wound up dead.

He is utterly unrepentant and sticking to his assertions in his appeals.

I do not believe Noor because I worked in an occupation that required driving to neighborhoods for pizza delivery. I can damn well see at night what coming towards my vehicle if the place is well-lit, and where she was living, it should have been. I also can tell the "class" of the neighborhood as well since some places are concentrated by the wealthy and others the less endowed.
 
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