The Verge: iPhone and iPadusers report severe motion sickness using iOS 7

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kasakka

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This is probably similar to the way I can eventually feel a bit motion sick after playing games that don't have a character or crosshair (essentially a point to focus on) constantly on the screen. Mirror's Edge before the crosshair was patched in was one. Weird things can trigger something like this in people.

Animation speeds etc make all the difference in how an OS feels like. I always disabled the Windows maximize/minimize animation because it's timed so slow that without it programs actually do open faster. Having experimented with animation speeds in my work I can tell that people are able to tell the difference between say 300 and 400ms animations easily. Those with jailbroken iOS can try "%hook's law" from Cydia to play around with the animation speed and easing.
 

Kaido

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Interesting. I find the animation annoying, but not physically sickening. It really bugs me that stuff like SMS is now animated boingy-style when you scroll, it just doesn't feel like it's well-put-together. Honestly it feels like some cheap Android animation trick. I liked it before where it just went up & down
 

Subyman

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There have been people complaining about this since launch on MacRumors. I'm not sure how prevalent it actually is. You'd have to be very sensitive for a 0.2 second animation to make you sick.
 

lopri

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I helped a neighborhood trouble-shooting her iPad 4 yesterday, and I have to say the iOS 7 looked better on the iPad than the iPhone. Maybe it's because of the larger icons? It did not look as crazy as on iPhone 4S.

I could see the excessive animations causing physical reactions to those who have sensitive eyes. I suppose Apple will fine-tune them over time. She was quite confused with the new look. I myself was tricked once in mail setting because I did not know there were more options and the floating window can be scrolled up further to reveal more information.

The home screen responsiveness was top-notch, but overall the UI was quite jittery for apple products. Later I learned that she had like 10 safari tabs open, so perhaps that's what caused it.

It is easy for us to say "Just disable animation" to those who are uncomfortable with animation, but tell that to your neighboring moms/dads and they will have no clue where to begin. iOS has become quite complex over time.
 

Ravynmagi

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There have been people complaining about this since launch on MacRumors. I'm not sure how prevalent it actually is. You'd have to be very sensitive for a 0.2 second animation to make you sick.

I think the animations are a lot slower than that. But I imagine it's the repeated action of the animations that get to people as they are playing on their phone or tablet for a while. I'm guessing anyway.
 

Crono

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I think the animations are a lot slower than that. But I imagine it's the repeated action of the animations that get to people as they are playing on their phone or tablet for a while. I'm guessing anyway.

Probably.

I think Apple should take it as a complement, or market it as a feature. Because old animations on previous operating system were never realistic enough to make a person sick. If you are getting motion sick from the "whoosh" zooming of iOS 7, let Apple know! That's a real design win for the video game guy they hired to do the effects.
 

lopri

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I felt a little uncomfortable with iOS 7's animations on iPad 4, to be honest. Especially when there were micro-stutters. But I am sure that Apple will tone them down with updates.
 

Ravynmagi

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I tried to live with the parallax effect. It's subtle and doesn't bother me. But what does bother me is sometimes when I unlock the device or just go to the home screen, my wallpaper bounces once before settling into the parallax effect. That initial glitch was kicking my OCD side.
 

Ravynmagi

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Speaking of stupid things. The Accessibility screen has a few toggle options right there on the page. But for Reduce Motion, you have to go into another screen that has Reduce Motion again with the toggle. Seems like a waste of an action. Why not just put that toggle switch right on the Accessibility screen instead of creating a separate screen by itself?
 

Crono

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Speaking of stupid things. The Accessibility screen has a few toggle options right there on the page. But for Reduce Motion, you have to go into another screen that has Reduce Motion again with the toggle. Seems like a waste of an action. Why not just put that toggle switch right on the Accessibility screen instead of creating a separate screen by itself?

I suspect there might have been other options there originally.
 

Crono

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He would have said that there's nothing wrong with the phone and that people aren't looking at the phone right.

He would have said anyone experiencing problems with the UI are subhuman, Android-loving Morlocks, and that the iPhones were only intended to be used by the Apple-loyal Eloi.
 

dainthomas

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http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/25/4...ons-causing-reports-of-severe-motion-sickness

Apple's new design style in iOS 7 has had plenty of detractors, but some may have genuine cause for complaint: the zooming and parallax animations across the new operating system have been giving some users bad cases of motion sickness. "The zoom animations ... are literally making me nauseous and giving me a headache," Apple forum user Ensorceled writes. "It's exactly how I used to get car sick if I tried to read in the car." Other forum users are reporting feelings of illness, eye pain, and dizziness as well.

They're holding it wrong.
 

lothar

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So a new user to the Apple Support forum claims this is happening, immediately followed by other new forum users claiming the same thing... I suppose there is no chance this is just a bunch of Apple haters playing a practical joke?

Until a trustworthy third party sheds some light on this, I calling BS

-KeithP
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2013/09/27/new-ios7-update-making-some-users-dizzy/2883587/




Classic comments from the ATOT crowd:
ULTIMATE firstworld problem. kid stays home, 700 dollar iphone 5s got him dizzy.

12 year old has to take a sick day from school. 700 dollar iphone (100 dollar a month service)

The effects are so intense Elizabeth Kerr kept her 12-year-old son Mitchell home from school on Friday.

If I knew my parents spent $700 on a phone for a 12 year old, I'd be queasy too.
 

jiffylube1024

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I thought this was total BS until I used my wife's iPad mini with iOS 7 for 15 minutes to read an article online. I found the jerky scrolling through text was giving me a headache.

I've used my iPad 4 since launch with no issues whatsoever. In my own observations, this has to do not so much with the iOS 7 animations in themselves - they're great on the iPad 4, but on underpowered hardware like the iPad mini scrolling becomes jerky. That's where the headaches come in.

So, candidates for this issue would be the iPhone 4, iPad 2, iPad mini and possibly the 3 - ones which have framerate jumps and lags.
 

Eug

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Nah, not the jerkiness. I think it really is the animation.
 

Jinny

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i suffer from motion sickness problems so I did get dizzy looking at the zoom animations.

i don't own an iphone but played with my friend's and I had to put it down soon after.
 
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