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pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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I would be curious with the guy with Laptop what happens when he goes to update something at MS and latest WGA kicks in.

It works just ducky. I haven't had a problem yet and I just checked updates yesterday. Sorry to Shoot your theory down but... It is working for me is all I can say. Two machines with at least 3 installs on each... No blacklist for me.

Maybe MS just don't like some people?

Signed the guy with the laptop

pcgeek11
 

stash

Diamond Member
Jun 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: BroadbandGamer
Can someone please tell me what happened to the options to set up partitions and format my drive? I just got Vista installed and I didn't see any options to set up partitions or to do a full format of my drive.

Thanks!
They're still there. When you get to the screen asking you to select a partition to install on, there's a button you can click on to show the "advanced" options (delete, format, extend, etc).

You can also click on repair my computer at the very begging (before you click the big install button). Then click on the command prompt option and use the diskpart command.
 

Trader05

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2000
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For anyone using Intel's GMA950 video, new drivers are available for RC2 on Intel's site
 

Modular

Diamond Member
Jul 1, 2005
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I just installed RC1 on my desktop. Any way to disable the command prompt? Everytime I tell it to run something Vista asks me if it's OK...I would read through all 19 pages in this thread, but umm, I don't have time.

Thanks.
 

walrus

Golden Member
Dec 18, 2000
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My 256MB GeForce 4 died and I have been using a old Evil Kyro 64MB card, is there a driver that will run in Vista? I also have a old Voo Doo 5 card out in the garage I could use. (Yes I seem to have a thing for obscure orphaned video cards)
 

Bozo Galora

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Oct 28, 1999
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http://www.windowsitpro.com/windowspaul...D/93967/windowspaulthurrott_93967.html

A week and a half ago, online reports about an internal countdown clock at Microsoft verified my early 2006 report that the software giant was pushing for an October 25 Windows Vista release to manufacturing (RTM) date. But last week, Jim Allchin, co-president of Microsoft's Platforms and Services Division, admitted that the company had run into a snag and that Microsoft wouldn't make its planned RTM date. As of today, however, Microsoft is back on track because it has a working Vista build in escrow.

In an interview with Mary Jo Foley at "ZDNet" last week, Allchin said that Microsoft wouldn't be able to release Vista to manufacturing by October 25. "We are in pretty good shape," Allchin told Foley. "And there are still months before (the January 2007) launch."

Allchin was alluding to an internal timetable that I previously reported on in WinInfo: He had told the Windows Division that Microsoft could afford to postpone Vista's RTM date to as late as November 8 and still meet its November and January launch dates. However, each delay comes with a price, Allchin said: For each day past October 25, Microsoft will ship one fewer localized, language-specific version of Vista in the January launch.

I've found out that the source of Allchin's concerns was an unexpectedly buggy pre-RTM build of Vista. The previous Friday, Microsoft pushed Vista build 5824 into escrow, hoping that the build could qualify as the final shipping version. But a catastrophic problem with the build destroyed any systems that upgraded from Windows XP, requiring complete reinstallations. After several frantic days of trying to find the bug, Microsoft finally fixed the problem last Friday and reset escrow. On Friday, Microsoft internally released build 5840, which didn't include the bug. Testing over the weekend produced positive feedback.

Vista build 5840 includes a surprising number of brand-new and final icons, and a new set of final wallpapers, including a default wallpaper that's a variation of the Aurora "swoosh" that Microsoft has been using as a Vista identifier since it announced the branding in July 2005. There aren't any major functional changes in this build.

Oh, and that internal countdown clock? Last week, it was reset to count down to November 8, not to October 25. It's not clear, however, whether Microsoft will release Vista to manufacturing before November 8, and which--if any--language-specific versions of Vista will be dropped
 

Sandan

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Oct 9, 1999
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Well needing to buy a new copy of Vista at upgrade time certainly seems like price gouging and greed to me. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Anyway, I wonder if Microsoft makes most of their money off operating systems integrated into new systems. It seems like the "Computer Community" would like to see system builders go the way of the dinasour. Most users don't format and reinstall....They buy new systems when they upgrade. I hope that there is still time left for the dinasours on this virtual computerized planet we call our PC's......
 

avi85

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Apr 24, 2006
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Originally posted by: Sandan
Well needing to buy a new copy of Vista at upgrade time certainly seems like price gouging and greed to me. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Anyway, I wonder if Microsoft makes most of their money off operating systems integrated into new systems. It seems like the "Computer Community" would like to see system builders go the way of the dinasour. Most users don't format and reinstall....They buy new systems when they upgrade. I hope that there is still time left for the dinasours on this virtual computerized planet we call our PC's......

It's not just an entire system upgrade, if you change a few components (I forget how many, but if you get a new proc and a new HD and a new graphics card I think that's enough) I'm pretty sure that it's considered an upgrade even though we all know that it's essentially the same computer you can't upgrade again unless you want to shell out another $400 for a new copy of windows, which is crazy!!!

Edit: I know that I personally would probably need to rebuy windows every 6 months or so...
 

Modular

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Jul 1, 2005
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This issue has been hashed out before and the general consensus is that XP also had this "Limited Upgradeability" clause when it was released as well. You can call MS and they will give you a new activation key. So it's really a non-issue.

I agree that the price is ludicrous, but that's what you get when you NEED to be aon the bleeing edge. Everybody who bought an X850XT a year ago for $400 wasted all that $ because they can be had today for $130. The point is that you pay to be at the forefront. If the initial cost of Vista is too much, then just wait a few months, the price will come down, and when it does buy it then. How much was XP when it first came out?

Finally, I see nothing about Vista that I absolutely must have. And it will be this way for a year or longer. Not everyone is going to buy Vista right when it comes out, and developers know that. All games, programs, etc which are designed for Vista will still run on XP for a few years at least. There are still games and programs released to this day that will run on 98...So just wait for th eprice to come down. All Vista really is is a facelift: refined interface, new backgrounds, IE7 (which can be had anywhere), and DX10 (there's no graphics hardware for DX10 yet anyways). It's going to take a long time to become the mainstream OS.
 

avi85

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Apr 24, 2006
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Originally posted by: Modular
This issue has been hashed out before and the general consensus is that XP also had this "Limited Upgradeability" clause when it was released as well. You can call MS and they will give you a new activation key. So it's really a non-issue.

I agree that the price is ludicrous, but that's what you get when you NEED to be aon the bleeing edge. Everybody who bought an X850XT a year ago for $400 wasted all that $ because they can be had today for $130. The point is that you pay to be at the forefront. If the initial cost of Vista is too much, then just wait a few months, the price will come down, and when it does buy it then. How much was XP when it first came out?

Finally, I see nothing about Vista that I absolutely must have. And it will be this way for a year or longer. Not everyone is going to buy Vista right when it comes out, and developers know that. All games, programs, etc which are designed for Vista will still run on XP for a few years at least. There are still games and programs released to this day that will run on 98...So just wait for th eprice to come down. All Vista really is is a facelift: refined interface, new backgrounds, IE7 (which can be had anywhere), and DX10 (there's no graphics hardware for DX10 yet anyways). It's going to take a long time to become the mainstream OS.

The licensing on Vista will be more limiting than on XP. See here.
 

Shaotai

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Jan 22, 2002
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So does anyone have a free link to the Office 2007 beta? MS is charging $1.50 to d/l it!? I got RC2 running and its working great so far...
 

imaheadcase

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Vista and XP pro activation are exactlly the same, just worded diffrently. worst case you have to call MS to activate it. Its a moot issue.

 

BehindEnemyLines

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When is the definitive date for RTM? I've heard October 25, 2006 which is only about 20 minutes from now. Since my university is part of Microsoft's msdn academic alliance (I've a proper account with my department), will Vista be downloadable for free? I can download pretty much anything in the software list including Windows XP PRO SP2 although I haven't tried them yet.

I'm wondering if and when Vista will be available for academic alliance download.
 

canadianpsycho

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May 23, 2001
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OK Vista RC1/RC2 is/are driving me nuts.

I install Vista on a second partition, and at random times into the install, Vista seemingly changes a refresh rate or something with my gfx card and I get an "Out of Range" message diplayed on my LCD monitor.

Here's my rig:

E66000 @ 3.2 GHz
Gigabyte DS3
2 GB Team DDR2
Sapphire X1900XTX
Audigy 2 ZS
Plex 755SA
Viewsonic VX2025WM (via DVI connection)

I use all the default drivers Vista installs except I install the Creative Vista and ATI Vista RC1 Beta drivers.

I have had this problem occur:

-With RC1, Once when installing the ATI drivers it randomly blanked out.
-Again with RC1 I uninstall the ATI drivers, I open up the diplay properties box and without changing anything my screen blanks out.
-Installed RC2 and just last night I boot to Vista, the systray gives me some popup about installing drivers for the Intel ICH8 chipset, and my screen blanks out again.

I can enter safe mode, and Vista is running, I just can't get any display. Every reboot to Vista gives me an Out of Range message.

Does anyone have any suggestions? This is driving me nuts.
 

Shaotai

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Jan 22, 2002
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Originally posted by: Pabster
Do not install the ATI Vista RC1 beta drivers under RC2.

QFT
ATi's website states that they will have RC2 drivers available soon.
The built in ATi drivers in RC2 are the latest...
 

canadianpsycho

Diamond Member
May 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Shaotai
Originally posted by: Pabster
Do not install the ATI Vista RC1 beta drivers under RC2.

QFT
ATi's website states that they will have RC2 drivers available soon.
The built in ATi drivers in RC2 are the latest...

Thanks for the tips... But unfortnately that doesn't explain my problems with RC1. I'll try RC2 again and hope it doesn't flip out if I don't install the ATI drivers.
 

KPACOTKA

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Oct 19, 2006
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Does somebody have problems with DVD burning? Vista RC2 reports that DVD was burn fine, however disk surface looks weird and disk unreadable after. CD burning is fine. Roxio DVD burns also fine.
 

imported_Uber

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Oct 5, 2006
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ok, I want to know whats going on with RC1 and RC2.

which is newer?
which is better?
I ordered RC1. Should I try to download RC2?
 

ProviaFan

Lifer
Mar 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: Uber
ok, I want to know whats going on with RC1 and RC2.

which is newer?
which is better?
I ordered RC1. Should I try to download RC2?
RC2 is newer and better. The key that you got to go with RC1 will work with RC2. None of the Microsoft employees who post here will say to download RC2 (which must be done "unofficially"), but if you plan to attempt to use Vista as your main OS, it would be ideal to try that with RC2.
 

imported_Uber

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Oct 5, 2006
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Where can I download RC2? It will have to be a torrent, as my internet here is too unreliable to get anything big any other way.
 

ProviaFan

Lifer
Mar 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: Uber
Where can I download RC2? It will have to be a torrent, as my internet here is too unreliable to get anything big any other way.
That sort of question is frowned upon here, but I'm assuming that if you know about torrents, you might have some knowledge of a good place to "scrape" the web for them. The only advice I can give is that if you get your RC2 ISO that way, search on the forums here to find a verified MD5 hash for the official ISO, and check yours against that hash with a suitable utility to ensure that no one has tampered with the contents.
 
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