The Walking Dead Season 3... SUNDAY NIGHT!

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olds

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I think these ideas are some of the fun in this type of show. I often sit there and wonder if I would be any different in a similar situation. I'm a fairly big pacifist now, but who's to say? Once you're protecting yourself in a post-apocalyptic world I could easily see how the governor's type of behavior would snowball and you'd end up doing things you never thought yourself capable of .. it's survival.
I've thought about that. I'd probably be convicted of something like "war crimes" if the situation only lasted a short while. If it was long term, someone would probably kill me. But I'd be that guy that put a .357 round in your forehead if I thought you needed it. Judge, jury and executioner. I wouldn't play games or mince words. It's survival of the fittest.
 

blankslate

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Maybe someone had a heart attack and died in a military hospital and it spread from there.

Additionally once the fuel runs out in a tank how do they cool the crew in the hot Georgia summer? shooting something in the chest and having it still clamber after you can't be good for morale.

Anyway, it's a fiction show and you either are able to suspend disbelief or not. I think it's not as hard as some might think. We don't know how things are going on in other areas.

There may be a few military bases that weren't overrun but they aren't 100% self sufficient they need to bring in supplies. So even if they are secure they might be more concerned with venturing out into dangerous supplies with no loss of personnel then they also have to deal with the civilians living on the base.

Could be another twist on Woodbury.
 

z1ggy

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That doesn't make any sense as not feeling pain isn't going to magically increase muscle fiber capability. It would possibly allow them to continue to do things after a normal human would stop due to muscle fatigue.

I believe you are right, but as my back up, I will default to the Granny "high" on adrenalin who lifts the car off of her grand kid who is trapped. That's just a silly tale
I heard about human strength and how under extreme situations your body could, for a short period of time, become much more stronger/quicker than it normally is.

Over all, I don't examine any zombie show/movie with too much scientific reasoning. It's entertainment...Things don't need to really follow the laws of science and anatomy perfectly.
 

BladeVenom

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2. Am I the only one who thinks the "Merle is the traitor" stuff at the end is staged? Pretend to turn on Merle so that he can escape with the brother - have a man on the inside? Or at least have Merle learn what he needs to know about the prison and its defenses.

I figure Merle is going to betray Rick's group, again.

Of course I can't figure out why they would ever let Merle into the prison. Although I'm guessing they will be stupid enough to do it. He's tried to kill Glenn, he's tried to kill Michonne, and he's threatened Rick. Not to mention he's uncontrollably violent, a raging racist, a psychopath, drug addict, and all around evil person.
 

Triumph

Lifer
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Well they have to use the fact that he's Daryl's brother to forward that storyline, and Daryl is probablya very loyal guy, he's loyal to the group but I'm sure he's loyal to his family as well. he's going to want to give merle a chance, for sure. probably make excuses for his actions for a while, until merle does something directly contrary to what daryl sees as right, and daryl will put an arrow between the eyes.
 

the DRIZZLE

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Also the zombies on the TV show don't just bite and move on. They bite, take down their kill, and then start feasting. They don't just go from person to person just to bite to infect them. They are going for the kill, and ripping all their guts out.

That's one of the biggest holes in the show, other than the fact that Romero zombies are totally implausible in the first place. There is no explanation for why there are so many walkers around. Maybe they will come up with an explanation at some point if they ever explain how the outbreak started.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
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Sure, you should be able to take your muscles to the limit by being able to ignore the pain from doing so, but take myself for example... I'm not super strong. How would zombie aikouka be capable of performing body builder feats just because he can ignore pain? I might be able to do some more, but I don't see myself deadlifting hundreds of pounds. It sounded like the TV show that the person was talking about was suggesting extreme examples like that.

Oh certainly not superhuman feats. Zombies could be a bit stronger than the standard human, but they aren't deadlifting bulldozers.
 

Triumph

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That's one of the biggest holes in the show, other than the fact that Romero zombies are totally implausible in the first place. There is no explanation for why there are so many walkers around. Maybe they will come up with an explanation at some point if they ever explain how the outbreak started.

Why are there so many zombies around? Because it's a show about zombies. Why are you surprised that there are zombies around? 46 pages and 3 seasons into a show about zombies, and you people are now complaining about the presence of zombies. Same goes for the prison discussion the last few pages, "Duuhhh why are there zombies in the prison?" followed by about 17 layers of derivative conjecture to conclude that the presence of zombies in the prison "doesn't make sense." It's retarded.
 

Mermaidman

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That's one of the biggest holes in the show, other than the fact that Romero zombies are totally implausible in the first place. There is no explanation for why there are so many walkers around. Maybe they will come up with an explanation at some point if they ever explain how the outbreak started.

In TWD, everyone is already infected. When a person dies, he becomes a Walker, regardless of COD. You could die from autoerotic asphyxiation and still become a Walker, possibly with an intact erection. D:
 

SamQuint

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In TWD, everyone is already infected. When a person dies, he becomes a Walker, regardless of COD. You could die from autoerotic asphyxiation and still become a Walker, possibly with an intact erection. D:

Wish they would just answer how it all started. One day you die and you stay dead, the next day someone dies and becomes a walker. It would be nice to know how this thing started.

Just a bit of research, on any given day 153,000 people die in the world. About 56 million die a year so that is a lot of zombies.
 

Pr0d1gy

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Wish they would just answer how it all started. One day you die and you stay dead, the next day someone dies and becomes a walker. It would be nice to know how this thing started.

Just a bit of research, on any given day 153,000 people die in the world. About 56 million die a year so that is a lot of zombies.

And just think about this, what if each of those zombies bit JUST ONE person per day?

It would take them less than half a year to infect every person on the planet. The original 153,000 would make 55,845,000 in the first year by themselves. There are so many walkers around because 90+% of the population has been turned or eaten.
 

blankslate

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Wish they would just answer how it all started. One day you die and you stay dead, the next day someone dies and becomes a walker. It would be nice to know how this thing started.

Maybe they don't want to answer because the comic book writer afaik never answered the question.

Although, in my opinion the show has pointed to some man made agent via the CDC episode that wasn't a storyline in the comics.

Perhaps it only brought back people who have been infected while alive. Which would explain the all of a sudden recently dead people coming back to start the ZA.

That's just my hypothesis though.
 

nageov3t

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Wish they would just answer how it all started. One day you die and you stay dead, the next day someone dies and becomes a walker. It would be nice to know how this thing started.

Just a bit of research, on any given day 153,000 people die in the world. About 56 million die a year so that is a lot of zombies.
iirc, the comic book writers has stated outright that he's never going to answer that question.

I assume the show will follow suit.
 

SMOGZINN

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There is no explanation for why there are so many walkers around. Maybe they will come up with an explanation at some point if they ever explain how the outbreak started.

The greater Atlanta Metropolitan area has 5.2 million people in it. If only 1 in 10 get turned into a walker you have half a million walkers in the area the show takes place, and I think we would see a lot more then 1 in 10 turned.

And consider how walkers are, people tend to get bit and run away. After the first day or so of it getting bad people would go to shelters or hold up in their houses. Walkers are not all that good at getting into even lightly secured places, so people would be mostly safe until they had to go out and get food or water. Then they get bit and return to their shelter, where they die and bite someone else. If there is more then one other person in that shelter then the odds are good that someone tries to fight off the newly risen walker, and gets bit themselves. The walker happily feeds on one of them while the other turns, and we get 2/3 conversion rate. If that holds true then we end up with roughly 3.5 million zombies just in Atlanta.
 

Childs

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I believe you are right, but as my back up, I will default to the Granny "high" on adrenalin who lifts the car off of her grand kid who is trapped. That's just a silly tale
I heard about human strength and how under extreme situations your body could, for a short period of time, become much more stronger/quicker than it normally is.

Over all, I don't examine any zombie show/movie with too much scientific reasoning. It's entertainment...Things don't need to really follow the laws of science and anatomy perfectly.

There is also people on drugs like PCP which make the users think they have super strength, and in essence they do. Since its not known exactly how this zombie virus works, its reasonable to think that zombies are always "dusted".

And Michonne is one tough bitch! To be able to fight a man twice her size in a closed in area hand to hand like that is impressive. He also had parental rage on his side. I am wondering if she is a lesbian. It seems like the only reason she went back to kill the Governor was because of Andrea. I realize she knows he lied about the soldiers, but I cant think of a legitimate reason why she would go after him like that. Such a spiteful move when she hasnt really been wronged, that she knew of, aside from losing Andrea to the Governor.

I also liked in the preview when Carl said that Rick shouldnt be the leader any more. That will probably be the wake up call Rick needs to get his crap together.
 

skillyho

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I've really enjoyed the past few episodes of this season...reminds me of some of the intense moments in the first episodes. Hope they keep the good stuff coming in February.
 

SMOGZINN

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It seems like the only reason she went back to kill the Governor was because of Andrea. I realize she knows he lied about the soldiers, but I cant think of a legitimate reason why she would go after him like that. Such a spiteful move when she hasnt really been wronged, that she knew of, aside from losing Andrea to the Governor.

I thought it was because Michonne had taken a measure of what kind of man he was and decided that he would never stop hunting her and Rick et al. after this, and maybe if he was dead the people of Woodbury could see reason and stop coming war between the groups.
 

purbeast0

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I thought it was because Michonne had taken a measure of what kind of man he was and decided that he would never stop hunting her and Rick et al. after this, and maybe if he was dead the people of Woodbury could see reason and stop coming war between the groups.

i thought it was because the governor sent his guys to go kill her in the woods after she left.
 

SMOGZINN

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i thought it was because the governor sent his guys to go kill her in the woods after she left.

So far the show has shown her to be a 'fight is you must, but run if you can' type. I just don't see her going to that lengths for revenge (and then leaving him alive).
 

Childs

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So far the show has shown her to be a 'fight is you must, but run if you can' type. I just don't see her going to that lengths for revenge (and then leaving him alive).

She was going to kill him, but then Andrea showed up. And Andrea made it clear that she would have to go through her to get to Governor. I think they should have shown an episode with the two of them on the road, establishing this relationship. When they first showed them together, they were already BFFs. Michonne doesnt seem the type to have a BFF, so it would be interesting to see how that happened.
 

purbeast0

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She was going to kill him, but then Andrea showed up. And Andrea made it clear that she would have to go through her to get to Governor. I think they should have shown an episode with the two of them on the road, establishing this relationship. When they first showed them together, they were already BFFs. Michonne doesnt seem the type to have a BFF, so it would be interesting to see how that happened.

i agree, their whole relationship was just odd. it was basically andrea just talking and michonne being a tough guy. i found it hard to gauge just how much of BFF's they really were.
 

Rakewell

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She was going to kill him, but then Andrea showed up. And Andrea made it clear that she would have to go through her to get to Governor. I think they should have shown an episode with the two of them on the road, establishing this relationship. When they first showed them together, they were already BFFs. Michonne doesnt seem the type to have a BFF, so it would be interesting to see how that happened.

Agreed.

They did not establish that relationship well enough for us to really believe or understand the tension during their standoff.
 

SMOGZINN

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I guess I didn't buy their friendship enough to think that Andrea would have stopped her if revenge was her goal.
What I would have liked to have happened is for Michonne to have knocked Andrea's gun aside, kissed her while decapitating the governor, then jump out the window and be gone.

Michonne: Lesbian Samurai

EDIT: "Michonne: Lesbian Samurai" would be an awesome spin-off series. Are you listening AMC? We need this!
 
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