The Walking Dead Season 3... SUNDAY NIGHT!

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ManBearPig

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Yeah, like i said earlier, these inconsistencies are bothering me this season. Like...we dont even see carol die so we think shes alive, but then the grave is filled (but they never show a body), but then they hint in the previews that carol killed some zombies and escaped, etc.

And the laurie thing...we see blood, but no body, but then rick finds a bloated zombie, but we dunno if he ate her or not, but then he looks like he wants to cut it open because he thinks the zombie killed laurie, but then he just stabs it instead.

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Childs

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- Michonne didn't know specifically who Penny was, she just knew it was someone the governor had particular interest in.

Yeah, she was fishing. And you can see the look on the Governors face he knew she didnt know who Penny was, and even told Michonne she was wrong about that. He was too high up from the street for Michonne to see exactly what he was doing, but to Michonne, anything he is doing will be suspicious because she doesnt trust him.

The journal looks like a list of people who died. My take is that Penny's death (most likely his daughter) caused a psychotic break. Other entries in the journal are about things you would need to do to maintain the town. After Penny's death, he writes nothing put backslashes.

Its almost like he is trying to find some way to integrate zombies back into society, either by a cure, or simply integrating them into their society. This is starting to seem too similar to what happened with Herschel on the farm. Its essentially the same thing, except the town is the farm on steroids.
 

BladeVenom

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Yeah, like i said earlier, these inconsistencies are bothering me this season. Like...we dont even see carol die so we think shes alive, but then the grave is filled (but they never show a body), but then they hint in the previews that carol killed some zombies and escaped, etc.

If Carol is still alive it will be the stupidest writing in the history of television.
1. Dig grave
2. Fill grave
3. Look for body
 

olds

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Starting to jump the shark for me.

Rick didn't seem to care much for his wife. But he goes on a rage and abandons his newborn child because she is dead? Not seeing it.
 

Mermaidman

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Starting to jump the shark for me.

Rick didn't seem to care much for his wife. But he goes on a rage and abandons his newborn child because she is dead? Not seeing it.
I think he still cared, but with all the other shit going on, he had to backburner Lori. Now that she's dead, he cannot get back with Lori, and he didn't get a chance to resolve their issues, say "I love you" and all that crap before she dies.
 

CVSiN

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If Carol is still alive it will be the stupidest writing in the history of television.
1. Dig grave
2. Fill grave
3. Look for body

Um they made a symbolic grave since the body was not recovered.. you forget they do think she is dead as well but all they found was her scarf near Tdawg..

They are messing up by assuming she is dead.

so how is that bad writing?

Think people need to pay more attention to detail.
 

CVSiN

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Starting to jump the shark for me.

Rick didn't seem to care much for his wife. But he goes on a rage and abandons his newborn child because she is dead? Not seeing it.

Rick did love Lori.. it sounds like you have never been through a relationship that got complicated..
He was hurt by alot of things she has done.. but he never stopped loving her.

and no he has no chance to even say goodbye or to work through things..

yeh and he flat snapped brain = turned off in rage/depression..
not so hard to fathom if you look at the big picture.. world is ending.. your soulmate and last hope for any normalcy in this screwed up world is killed.. you are going to snap..
 

purbeast0

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Um they made a symbolic grave since the body was not recovered.. you forget they do think she is dead as well but all they found was her scarf near Tdawg..

They are messing up by assuming she is dead.

so how is that bad writing?

Think people need to pay more attention to detail.

a 'symbolic grave' would not require digging a hole then filling it right back up with dirt and no body.

i could see just putting a cross there or something to remember her by, but to dig an empty hole then fill it? not sure about that one...
 

olds

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Rick did love Lori.. it sounds like you have never been through a relationship that got complicated..
He was hurt by alot of things she has done.. but he never stopped loving her.

and no he has no chance to even say goodbye or to work through things..

yeh and he flat snapped brain = turned off in rage/depression..
not so hard to fathom if you look at the big picture.. world is ending.. your soulmate and last hope for any normalcy in this screwed up world is killed.. you are going to snap..
Not if you have a newborn to take care of.
 

CVSiN

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a 'symbolic grave' would not require digging a hole then filling it right back up with dirt and no body.

i could see just putting a cross there or something to remember her by, but to dig an empty hole then fill it? not sure about that one...

they buried her scarf.. same thing we have done to military loses where no body was recovered or not enough to piece together.. we had a navy pilot go down and all we recovered from the wreckage was a torn flight patch and some other fabric. we buried that as remains.

Not too far fetched for them to do the same thing
 

oddyager

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a 'symbolic grave' would not require digging a hole then filling it right back up with dirt and no body.

i could see just putting a cross there or something to remember her by, but to dig an empty hole then fill it? not sure about that one...

After witnessing pretty much 2 seasons worth of stupidity by the characters thanks to the writers nothing surprises me anymore.
 

PimpJuice

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Not if you have a newborn to take care of.

.....not if the newborn mothers death was caused by the actions of a guy you pissed off and released. The same mother you never had a chance to say goodbye too.....
 
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CVSiN

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Not if you have a newborn to take care of.

LOL at you.. you think in that situation THE END OF THE GD WORLD THERE IS NO FINDING ANOTHER WIFE.

you would have been able to hold yourself together? especially knowing there was a GOOD chance it wasn't even my freaking kid? hell no I know for a fact I woulda lost it.. and most other normal people would have lost it too.
Myself I would NEVER have let her carry it to term it is nothing but a drama ridden liability period.. and no it will be nothing but a burdon to the group..I could see having NO ATTACHMENT at all and NOTHING but resentment at it for taking my wives life..
 

CVSiN

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.....not if the newborns mother was caused by the actions of a guy you pissed off and released. The same mother you never had a chance to say goodbye too.....
+1 on that too self blame is going to eat him alive..
 

CVSiN

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After witnessing pretty much 2 seasons worth of stupidity by the characters thanks to the writers nothing surprises me anymore.

those writers are the same ones that write the damn comic.. and everything is approved by the creator himself.. and they are running very closely to the comics.
If you don't like the writing don't watch and don't read the comic it's that easy.
 

BladeVenom

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they buried her scarf.. same thing we have done to military loses where no body was recovered or not enough to piece together.. we had a navy pilot go down and all we recovered from the wreckage was a torn flight patch and some other fabric. we buried that as remains.

Not too far fetched for them to do the same thing

It's completely far fetched because if she was dead, her body would still be in the prison. T-Dog locked the gates, so even is she came back as a zombie, she would still be in the prison.

So if they don't have a body, it means they didn't even bother to do a complete search before digging her grave. Stupid enough in itself, but even stupider to fill in the grave before dragging out all the dead bodies in the prison.

There's no comparison to a navy pilot going down in the ocean. They are in a locked prison. If she's dead they are certain to find her.
 

Skel

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It's completely far fetched because if she was dead, her body would still be in the prison. T-Dog locked the gates, so even is she came back as a zombie, she would still be in the prison.

So if they don't have a body, it means they didn't even bother to do a complete search before digging her grave. Stupid enough in itself, but even stupider to fill in the grave before dragging out all the dead bodies in the prison.

There's no comparison to a navy pilot going down in the ocean. They are in a locked prison. If she's dead they are certain to find her.

It's kind of funny how they'll waste a long time looking for a kid but none at all looking for any of the women. At least I don't recall them searching for Andrea or Carol before calling them dead and moving on.
 

Skel

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those writers are the same ones that write the damn comic.. and everything is approved by the creator himself.. and they are running very closely to the comics.
If you don't like the writing don't watch and don't read the comic it's that easy.

Not sure what that has to do with the lazy writing in the show this year.
 

juiio

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they buried her scarf.. same thing we have done to military loses where no body was recovered or not enough to piece together.. we had a navy pilot go down and all we recovered from the wreckage was a torn flight patch and some other fabric. we buried that as remains.

Not too far fetched for them to do the same thing

If they were digging the grave as an act of tribute, then someone from the original group would have been digging the holes. Instead, the two prisoner peons were digging the holes, and the original group were all very far away.

There are two possibilities for why they were digging the graves:

1) The writers assume viewers are stupid and won't realize that it is stupid to dig empty graves, and are using the three empty graves to fool us into thinking that all three are dead, thus setting up the big reveal that Carol (or Lori, if the writers hate us) is still alive.

2) The writers were braindead (pun intended) and didn't think about the fact that the graves are empty.
 

CVSiN

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It's completely far fetched because if she was dead, her body would still be in the prison. T-Dog locked the gates, so even is she came back as a zombie, she would still be in the prison.

So if they don't have a body, it means they didn't even bother to do a complete search before digging her grave. Stupid enough in itself, but even stupider to fill in the grave before dragging out all the dead bodies in the prison.

There's no comparison to a navy pilot going down in the ocean. They are in a locked prison. If she's dead they are certain to find her.

not if they ate her completely like they think they did...
look at what was left of Lori that fat zombie ate her completely.. ( or at least thats what they want us to think.. ( still think she never got shot and is a zombie now)

This is all being done for suspense and to build story...
you people act like this is supposed to be real life.

learn to sit back and enjoy it.. or go watch some masterpiece theater on PBS if you are above this kind of "cheap" storytelling.

Sick of seeing people cut this down when the storytelling is amazing and everything is linked together..
 

BladeVenom

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those writers are the same ones that write the damn comic.. and everything is approved by the creator himself.. and they are running very closely to the comics.
If you don't like the writing don't watch and don't read the comic it's that easy.

No. Kirkman only wrote one episode in season one, and co-wrote two episodes in season 2.

Kirkman's approval is not required. He is not in charge of the show, only a consultant.

They have taken many elements from the comics, but most of the details and dialog are different.
 

CVSiN

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If they were digging the grave as an act of tribute, then someone from the original group would have been digging the holes. Instead, the two prisoner peons were digging the holes, and the original group were all very far away.

There are two possibilities for why they were digging the graves:

1) The writers assume viewers are stupid and won't realize that it is stupid to dig empty graves, and are using the three empty graves to fool us into thinking that all three are dead, thus setting up the big reveal that Carol (or Lori, if the writers hate us) is still alive.

2) The writers were braindead (pun intended) and didn't think about the fact that the graves are empty.

You sound like you are new to this comic book series..

of course it is #1 and I never said it wasn't..

there will be a plot development on ALL of these events..
people just are not patient.
 

BladeVenom

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not if they ate her completely like they think they did...
look at what was left of Lori that fat zombie ate her completely.. ( or at least thats what they want us to think.. ( still think she never got shot and is a zombie now)

A zombie completely eating her or Lori is even stupider than digging a refilling a grave before looking for her. How does a 150 pound zombie completely eat a 120 pound woman? How does it eat a skeleton?
 

CVSiN

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No. Kirkman only wrote one episode in season one, and co-wrote two episodes in season 2.

Kirkman's approval is not required. He is not in charge of the show, only a consultant.

They have taken many elements from the comics, but most of the details and dialog are different.

actually he does.. he is the executive producer. and Talking Dead mentions his involvements alot more than you think.
he is directly involved at all points.
 
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