Err, what? That's a complete misinterpretation of the scene. Rick was hoping that Herschel might talk him out of going to war. He wasn't planning to give up Michonne. That's why he didn't tell anyone else about the Governor's offer.
Err, what? That's a complete misinterpretation of the scene. Rick was hoping that Herschel might talk him out of going to war. He wasn't planning to give up Michonne. That's why he didn't tell anyone else about the Governor's offer.
I think it's possible you accidentally watched a different show than the rest of America. There wasn't anything ambiguous about the conversation - he was asking Hershel to talk him out of giving up Michonne. Did you pass out for 5 minutes between "we're going to war" and "talk me out of it"? That's about the only explanation I can think of.
so based on people coming to different conclusions about something in this show ... it looks like yet again, we have shitty writing/directing about them conveying a message.
sounds just about right for this show.
so based on people coming to different conclusions about something in this show ... it looks like yet again, we have shitty writing/directing about them conveying a message.
This isn't a writing issue... it's a people in this thread being obtuse issue. The same people arguing that Rick wants Hershel to talk him out of going to war are the people that thought it was Andrea driving the zombies-r-us ice cream truck that smashed through the prison.
i was the person who brought that whole andrea thing up in the form of a question
Never admit to that again.
still don't understand why the hell people use spoiler tags for things that have already happened.
that shit grinds my gears!
still don't understand why the hell people use spoiler tags for things that have already happened.
that shit grinds my gears!
LOL. ya..i debated..however some people come in here and haven't watched the episode in question yet. I've done it.
then they (and you when you do it) are idiots if they are surprised about discussions going on about current episodes of the show.
I'm under the impression that Rick is going to give up Michonne. That idea angers me to no end.
This isn't a writing issue... it's a people in this thread being obtuse issue. The same people arguing that Rick wants Hershel to talk him out of going to war are the people that thought it was Andrea driving the zombies-r-us ice cream truck that smashed through the prison.
i had the same thought... might be easier to shoot zombies through but its not going to help against bullets. i pictured incoming rounds shattering and turning into shrapnel all through the cage...My favorite was this weekend when Glen went outside, cut 3 sides of a rectangle in a random fence and folded it downward. What is he making, a mail slot? Is he going to shoot through that slot while the chicken wire fencing protects him from bullets? What, he can't fit the gun through the fence to shoot back?
The literal dialogue is tad ambiguous, but I thought the conversation was pretty clear. Rick knows the Governor isn't going to leave them be if Rick gives up Michonne and it's a morally wrong decision because she has earned her place in the group. That's why he told Hershal; he's the moral compass of the group right now (like how Dale was). Rick wants Hershal to advocate for the hard, but "right" way (which is war) over the easy, but "wrong" way. If he had just told the whole group the offer, they may have tried to force Rick to give Michonne up.You missed a key dialogue at the end
Hershal: Why didn't you tell the others?
Rick: Because I want you to talk me out of it.
It wasn't about going to war. He had a sliver of hope that giving her up would solve his immediate problem w/o going to war, however he wanted Hershel to herd him the other way, because deep down he knew it wasn't true.
I actually like this season much more than last season. This show was never really about the zombies, it was about the drama of trying to survive, and how humans are just as much if not more of a threat than the zombies.
You missed a key dialogue at the end
Hershal: Why didn't you tell the others?
Rick: Because I want you to talk me out of it.
It wasn't about going to war. He had a sliver of hope that giving her up would solve his immediate problem w/o going to war, however he wanted Hershel to herd him the other way, because deep down he knew it wasn't true.
I actually like this season much more than last season. This show was never really about the zombies, it was about the drama of trying to survive, and how humans are just as much if not more of a threat than the zombies.
The literal dialogue is tad ambiguous, but I thought the conversation was pretty clear. Rick knows the Governor isn't going to leave them be if Rick gives up Michonne and it's a morally wrong decision because she has earned her place in the group. That's why he told Hershal; he's the moral compass of the group right now (like how Dale was). Rick wants Hershal to advocate for the hard, but "right" way (which is war) over the easy, but "wrong" way. If he had just told the whole group the offer, they may have tried to force Rick to give Michonne up.
The question I'm more curious about right now is who the Governor is going to torture? Michonne seems like an easy answer but I'm thinking it's someone else.