The Walking Dead Season 4 - Official discussion thread

[KeithTalent]

I still think it was the girl. Makes sense too since they are building her up even more now.

KT

 

[smackababy]

Her interactions with the zombie next to Glen makes sense. The real conundrum still is why they aren't doing more than poking a few with a stick when they are piling up. There has to be a far more efficient way to mow zombies down, especially if they are distracted.

 

[purbeast0]

its definitely the little girl. that bitch has some issues. she was having fun with that zombie, then she was twirling her foot in the blood of glen. she is cray!

 

[z1ggy]

Her interactions with the zombie next to Glen makes sense. The real conundrum still is why they aren't doing more than poking a few with a stick when they are piling up. There has to be a far more efficient way to mow zombies down, especially if they are distracted.

I wouldn't want to waste ammo on something like that. At this point you want ammo for human encounters and emergency situations. Granted, this is kind of turning into an emergency, since the fence is there providing some relative safety, hand to hand weapons are ok. The problem is the zombies keep piling up slowly. Eventually the fence broke just due to the weight of it.

I wonder what the supply group will tell Rick about the insane horde of zombies heading their way. Not sure how many there were.. or how far..But it seems like eventually they may run into the prison.

 

[smackababy]

I wouldn't want to waste ammo on something like that. At this point you want ammo for human encounters and emergency situations. Granted, this is kind of turning into an emergency, since the fence is there providing some relative safety, hand to hand weapons are ok. The problem is the zombies keep piling up slowly. Eventually the fence broke just due to the weight of it.

I wonder what the supply group will tell Rick about the insane horde of zombies heading their way. Not sure how many there were.. or how far..But it seems like eventually they may run into the prison.

I never said using guns. But, the "build up" was never really dealt with. They could have easily hooked a bunch of spears to the front of a truck and speared them or some other contraption to kill more than one at a time. Even dousing them in pitch + lighting them on fire would stop them.

And they never bothered to actually reinforce the fence or secure the perimeter. If they had done that from the beginning, it would have made much more sense. In fact, the fact they didn't proves just how stupid the writers want them to be. A chainlink fence won't hold back anything. The reason inmates don't escape is because it offers enough of a slowdown they can easily be shot while escaping.

 

[z1ggy]

Her interactions with the zombie next to Glen makes sense. The real conundrum still is why they aren't doing more than poking a few with a stick when they are piling up. There has to be a far more efficient way to mow zombies down, especially if they are distracted.

I wouldn't want to waste ammo on something like that. At this point you want ammo for human encounters and emergency situations. Granted, this is kind of turning into an emergency, since the fence is there providing some relative safety, hand to hand weapons are ok. The problem is the zombies keep piling up slowly. Eventually the fence broke just due to the weight of it.

I wonder what the supply group will tell Rick about the insane horde of zombies heading their way. Not sure how many there were.. or how far..But it seems like eventually they may run into the prison.

 

[PottedMeat]

they need one of these to clear out areas, they just need an entrance ramp

 

[Agent11]

Especially after the governor's assault you would think that they would have at least got some sandbags up on the parameter.

 

[smackababy]

They have a safe zone inside the double fences. I don't know why they didn't do something to make it safer in the event of a breech. It is like they were just sitting around going "well, we are safe enough right now, no reason to plan for any future problems!". Oh wait, if they did that the writers would have to rely on garbage drama and dialog. Thank god, we don't have to have that for another crappy season revolving around the biggest problems being Lori is a cheating skank and Carl is out of the house again!

 

[trmiv]

They have a safe zone inside the double fences. I don't know why they didn't do something to make it safer in the event of a breech. It is like they were just sitting around going "well, we are safe enough right now, no reason to plan for any future problems!". Oh wait, if they did that the writers would have to rely on garbage drama and dialog. Thank god, we don't have to have that for another crappy season revolving around the biggest problems being Lori is a cheating skank and Carl is out of the house again!

Well, to be fair they also built that entire gate thing out front with the spikes, setup their farm area, setup ways to get fresh water, the feeding area outside, etc. Seems like they were relying on the fences being good enough, while they setup stuff to live somewhat comfortably.

 

[smackababy]

Well, to be fair they also built that entire gate thing out front with the spikes, setup their farm area, setup ways to get fresh water, the feeding area outside, etc. Seems like they were relying on the fences being good enough, while they setup stuff to live somewhat comfortably.

Which makes zero sense. If you're first priority is making a picnic area rather than securing a barely "good enough" fence, you're going to die quickly. I understand the water and the farming area, but after that, priority should have been getting everything secure. The gate looks like a response to the governor driving through it and unleashing zombies. What stops them from driving through anywhere else in the fence?

And then it goes to the "we have just leave the walkers that aren't posing a threat right now". Every walking you kill is one less you have to worry about. They should be exterminating them at a rate higher than Hitler.

Plus, the idea of them relying so much on supply runs is a short lived solution. How long before there is no more supplies in an area within a day of travel? A week of travel? They should have been more nomadic, or at least, found an area capable of sustaining them for a prolonged period of time. I understand the lure of a prison, however, there is little chance they can grow enough food to sustain their population (even if it is dwindling). Winters in Georgia (if they are still anywhere near there) aren't exactly the mildest, so hunting might not be the best way to sustain their food supplies. They could reasonably travel to some coast (Atlanta is like 5 maybe 6 hour drive from Florida) and acquire some sail boats. That gives them a safe place to sleep (off shore) and fishing would be a must more reliable food source. It takes very little energy to fish. That also gives them easy access to travel (sailing along the coast for suppl runs).

 

[pontifex]

We get to see about one hour or so out of at minimum several days to a week passing between episodes. For all we know they have weapons cleaning detail every single day. I know I would implement such a thing, but maybe that's my Army training...

A properly cleaned and lubricated weapon can stand to be outside in the elements for days or weeks at a time and still function effectively especially an AK-47.

maybe, but why subject the guns to that, especially when you need them?

what about ammo sitting exposed to elements? this is Georgia, so isn't it hot and humid down there? What about rain?

ammo and guns rusting, getting wet....yeah, thats just dandy...

 

[pontifex]

I wouldn't keep them locked up. It might protect them from the elements, but when you need one, good luck running back to the armory. I agree, people should be carrying at least handguns, but long rifles are not fun to lug around (and I did that in my military days). Where they had some weapons stores (I imagine that wasn't all of them) was a good place. It had a good location in the event of a fence breach (which was pretty likely with how the zombies were piling up) and accessible for short notice needs.

The real problem isn't how stupid they are in gun storage, but how stupid they are in pretty much everything else.


Also, how exactly could they go out all the time (and Michonne go looking specifically for him) could they not find the governor camping somewhere right outside the prison.

I also have a feeling Daryl is going to go looking for Carol. Herschel and Maggie might agree with Rick's decision, as they view him the leader even if he doesn't want to be, Daryl most likely doesn't feel the same.

unless the governor is just fine to sit and watch, i don't think there's going to be time to go out looking for people.

also, i can't believe how they left the prison so vulnerable with everyone gone. how many healthy people did they have left at the prison to defend it?

 

[rockyct]

Okay... moving forward, anyone else going to get sick?

Hershel, Maggie, others? Or is the medicine they brought back a "cure-all" and we move onto the next topic?

I vote it'll be next topic, though I really did not expect

Spoiler

Hershel to make it.

We know that there will be a "special guest from the cast" next week on the Talking Dead. I'm thinking it may be Hershel. He may not have gotten infected until the doctor coughed on him so he could be 24 hours or more behind the group infection. The young people survived with the help of medicine, but the virus still may be too much for elderly people like Hershel.

It also seemed like it was his episode to be an hero while trying to show everyone to never give up hope. It would be a fitting end to his character on the show. The group almost instantly got back to normal the next morning with the Governor looking on. At the very least, he's an omen that bad shit is always close. Killing Hershel off would also do that.

 

[smackababy]

The young people survived with the help of medicine, but the virus still may be too much for elderly people like Hershel.

This is the worst part. So, Glen was coughing up blood from an unknown virus and taking a cocktail of expired antibiotics magically cured him! I can understand the need to fight the symptoms, but other than reducing their fevers and such, there is little they can do against a virus. The magic medicine is such a stupid plot device.

I swear the writers of this show have no bearing in reality. It like a child comes up with the ideas. "Hey, let's have everyone get sick and then some medicine they find will save the day at the very last minute!"


I am going to go ahead and predict the Governor will almost win and then some magical Unicorn will gore him right before he finishes off <insert whoever is the cast member getting the most screen time at that point> and everyone will be happy until the next artificial filler villain / plot device appears.

 

[BladeVenom]

When Rick got back,

 

[pontifex]

When Rick got back,

lol

 

[pontifex]

This is the worst part. So, Glen was coughing up blood from an unknown virus and taking a cocktail of expired antibiotics magically cured him! I can understand the need to fight the symptoms, but other than reducing their fevers and such, there is little they can do against a virus. The magic medicine is such a stupid plot device.

I swear the writers of this show have no bearing in reality. It like a child comes up with the ideas. "Hey, let's have everyone get sick and then some medicine they find will save the day at the very last minute!"


I am going to go ahead and predict the Governor will almost win and then some magical Unicorn will gore him right before he finishes off <insert whoever is the cast member getting the most screen time at that point> and everyone will be happy until the next artificial filler villain / plot device appears.

I'm betting the governor stuff will be drug out the rest of the season.

 

[Agent11]

I'd like to see them put a few lawnmower motors on a boom on the back of a flatbed... Fence build up solved.

 

[rockyct]

I'm betting the governor stuff will be drug out the rest of the season.

Yeah, my money is on him basically sabotaging the group for a while longer.

 

[Wingznut]

We know that there will be a "special guest from the cast" next week on the Talking Dead.

I was thinking the same thing last week, when they also said there would be "Adam Savage and a special guest"... Which turned out to be a non-cast member. So, I think maybe it just means they don't have anyone scheduled yet.

 

[Imp]

Holy shit, David Morrissey played Jackson Lake in The Next Doctor.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Who's watching right now?

 

[TraumaRN]

So far so good. At least its a change in pace so far.

 

[WT]

A pinky swear and a fist bump from the Governor in this episode ... how strange.

If he starts humming 'la bippity bippity dum' I am soooo done with this show !!