The Walking Dead Season 5 - Official discussion thread

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ImpulsE69

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The first guy Bob saw when regaining consciousness looked a lot like him

Because that was a flashback to why they were doing what they were doing. (it said like 6 months ago right before it). That scene wasn't from after the events of the show. The scene also explains why they tear gassed them.
 

smackababy

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Ugh... I hate this drag the Terminus crap out. If Tyrese didn't kill the guy in the cabin, everything he "learned" is lost. I hope Bob is infected and those guys eating him all die and we can get it over with.

Rick is pretty smart too. "You're never safe Carl!"... doesn't have a single lookout.
 

ctbaars

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Did Bob get bit? I think so...
I hope so too, otherwise that whole scene is just big filler
So Gareth &company about to find out what happens if you eat cooked infected?
Exactly. A season long infection/deterioration physically and mentally would be cool.
Then again, everyone is infected, so?
Yes, so we see something new now.
Tyrese didn't kill cabin guy. He has gone pacifist.
I agree. I think Tyrese is doing some CYA'ing in camp.
I think Gabriel either locked people in or out with zombies, and he will do it again.
Obviously, lots of red shirts abound. and Carl is dead meat this season.
I was frustrated that no one discussed Beth, not even her sister, until Darryl saw the car.
I'm not worried. We have plenty of time.

Also, they are obviously going to fart around in GA for another entire season. That seems so unlikely to me. Head to the coast, find a ship, clear it, sail to an island (or at least try). The DC trip is gonna be a season long tease. Ugh.
A ship?, DC? I'm not so sure the producers are afraid of "Znation" or "The Last Ship" quite yet.
 

manimal

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This is why they dont get to live.




Great episode! Should have been a two hour premiere!
 

manimal

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I think bob is gonna get the last laugh if he got bit by a underwater severed head. If he got tainted theres a reason the meat tasted so goood!
 

smackababy

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Is "Well, we will just leave this evil people alone and hope they forget about us" the new "Carl's out of the house again"? Oh, we just escaped a bunch of crazy cannibals, who are armed and willing to kill. Rather than striking them when they are disorganized, let's just walk on and hope they forget about us! It wasn't like we disrupted their entire society, or anything. I'm sure they won't mind what we did.

It is like the writers don't understand, we don't need some big, evil villain for the show to actually be interesting. Develop the relationships of the characters, the group dynamic, the breakdown of their morals and the hardships of life in the world.
 

02ranger

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Is "Well, we will just leave this evil people alone and hope they forget about us" the new "Carl's out of the house again"? Oh, we just escaped a bunch of crazy cannibals, who are armed and willing to kill. Rather than striking them when they are disorganized, let's just walk on and hope they forget about us! It wasn't like we disrupted their entire society, or anything. I'm sure they won't mind what we did.

It is like the writers don't understand, we don't need some big, evil villain for the show to actually be interesting. Develop the relationships of the characters, the group dynamic, the breakdown of their morals and the hardships of life in the world.

I agree. I get tired of shows always having to include some big bad for each season. It would be nice to watch the group trying to survive and build a home, get over a bunch of smaller hurdles, and maybe right when they get settled in and are going strong on building something better, THEN the big bad shows up and upsets the balance.
 

ctbaars

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I agree. I get tired of shows always having to include some big bad for each season. It would be nice to watch the group trying to survive and build a home, get over a bunch of smaller hurdles, and maybe right when they get settled in and are going strong on building something better, THEN the big bad shows up and upsets the balance.
So you liked the Prison Season.
 

OutHouse

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I agree. I get tired of shows always having to include some big bad for each season. It would be nice to watch the group trying to survive and build a home, get over a bunch of smaller hurdles, and maybe right when they get settled in and are going strong on building something better, THEN the big bad shows up and upsets the balance.

So like the residents of terminus? They had it good until ricks gang fucked it up.
 

smackababy

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How about the first season? There wasn't some idiot psychopath running around for god knows why and it wasn't a bunch of morons not having lookouts, despite telling children they aren't safe.

I swear these villains are straight out of Dead Rising.
 

02ranger

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So you liked the Prison Season.

Some of it. I don't think the prison season was very well done, but it had potential to be a great storyline. They still had a big bad in the Governor and Woodbury, though. I actually thought the farm season was one of the best. No single big bad, just trying to survive and find a missing child. I'm not saying it was perfect and it did drag a little at times, but it was my favorite so far. I'm also not saying they have to stay put for me to like it, they can be constantly moving or running into problems or whatever, I just don't like when a show feels there has to be a main threat that they're fighting against each season, which they then have to top in the next season. Especially with a show like this, it's kinda nice to just watch how they survive and deal with each other sometimes.
 

02ranger

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So like the residents of terminus? They had it good until ricks gang fucked it up.

That would actually be a pretty neat story to see told. I'd be interested in how they found Terminus, set it up, what life was like before those guys took over and then how things changed once they switched to people meat. It probably wouldn't be a great series unless it was REALLY well done, but a one-shot movie would be perfect. Like I said in the last post, I'm not against EVER having a big bad, I just don't think they're necessary all the time.
 

z1ggy

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That would actually be a pretty neat story to see told. I'd be interested in how they found Terminus, set it up, what life was like before those guys took over and then how things changed once they switched to people meat. It probably wouldn't be a great series unless it was REALLY well done, but a one-shot movie would be perfect. Like I said in the last post, I'm not against EVER having a big bad, I just don't think they're necessary all the time.

Well based on episode one, they may have been lured to Terminus the same way they lured people to it, once they ended up "escaping" the situation.

If you recall, some man/group of people were raping the women of their group on the reg. That's probably why they had the prayer room with all the candles saying "Never trust.." etc etc.
 

smackababy

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Well based on episode one, they may have been lured to Terminus the same way they lured people to it, once they ended up "escaping" the situation.

If you recall, some man/group of people were raping the women of their group on the reg. That's probably why they had the prayer room with all the candles saying "Never trust.." etc etc.

I took it as the opened Terminus themselves (or, at least were part of the group that did that) with the idea of a sanctuary for all. It wasn't until another group showed up and imprisoned / raped / etc that they went all militant and eventually started using people as food, likely around the same time.
 

Kaido

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How come the group doesn't get infected when they jumped into that basement full of zombie water? Seems like that water would be full of the bacteria that could work its way into the body of the living through the orifices (genitalia, eyes, nose, mouth, etc.)

Everyone is already infected. If you die, you become a zombie, so getting more zombie-juice on you doesn't matter. What matters is getting bit or scratched by a walker, which causes an infection, which creates a fever, which kills you.

Zombie logic :biggrin:
 

z1ggy

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I took it as the opened Terminus themselves (or, at least were part of the group that did that) with the idea of a sanctuary for all. It wasn't until another group showed up and imprisoned / raped / etc that they went all militant and eventually started using people as food, likely around the same time.

Hmmm maybe, guess I didn't pay close enough attention or think about it that way.

I figured it was more along the lines of what I said, because they entered Terminus thinking it was a place full of people they could trust, etc.. But it could be either way, and maybe it doesn't quite matter; they are completely different people now than they used to be.
 

Kaido

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Caught both episodes last night, they were pretty good! Glad they were better than the trailer made them out to be (I was worried it gave too much away). Some thoughts:

1. Carol was awesome! Great character development since her introduction as a mousy, abused wife. Also excellent on letting the zombies get to the lady in the candle room instead of just shooting her. Go Carol!

2. I think the baby is going to be the key to solving everything, since she was born after the zombie apocalypse. They need to (1) kill the walkers, and (2) cure the humans so that people don't have to deal with zombies anymore & don't become zombies in the future. I'm curious as to how many seasons they're going to drag this show on for, because the zombies are going to be falling apart pretty soon & won't be walkers anymore due to tissue reduction - it's already been a good 2 years and they're all starting to move pretty slow & look pretty thing, you know?

3. Death predictions: Bob (obviously, but even before that), Tyrese's sister, and the hispanic girl. Down the road, Tyrese (the moral compass always has to die in this show) & the redhead guy protecting the scientist. I think Glen & Maggie will make it until the end, since they need people to start the human race over again. I have a feeling that Rick will die in probably the last episode & kind of pass the mantle onto Carl. I don't know what they're doing with the girl from the governer's camp...she's kind of the motivation for the scientist right now...they keep flashing over to her, but I don't know why or what her role is going to be.

4. I hope they don't get stuck in a closed-off area again, a la Prison Break - a farm, a prison, a town, Terminus, etc. They've decided to travel to Washington, so I'm crossing my fingers they don't get stuck in the same old situation along the way.

5. It look me awhile to figure out the significance of the watch that Carol gave Rick...the kid (Sam?) he gave it to was on the chopping block next to him in the beginning & didn't make it. Also that the crazy-haired guy they let out was in there for punishment forever, since he was one of the original rapers of Terminus.

6. Really the only thing that felt a bit hokey to me was the zombies in the water - they're like, we have to jump in and use the shelves! Or, why don't you just stick them through the head from above? They're like 3 feet underneath you, just whack-a-mole them!
 

Kaido

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Hmmm maybe, guess I didn't pay close enough attention or think about it that way.

I figured it was more along the lines of what I said, because they entered Terminus thinking it was a place full of people they could trust, etc.. But it could be either way, and maybe it doesn't quite matter; they are completely different people now than they used to be.

What's weird is that they snapped, and what's fun is that they get to explore all kinds of different group approaches to dealing with zombie life. They could have just taken out the rapers & gone back to living a normal-ish life...setup the welcome crew, keep snipers on all of the newcomers, and weed out the bad ones, but instead they chose an alternative route.

Makes you wonder who they're going to encounter in the upcoming episodes, like the mortician guys who stole Beth. The preacher is an interesting character because he's remained untouched this whole time...which is feasible if they really did lock his congregation out & live off canned food for a couple years.
 

z1ggy

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What's weird is that they snapped, and what's fun is that they get to explore all kinds of different group approaches to dealing with zombie life. They could have just taken out the rapers & gone back to living a normal-ish life...setup the welcome crew, keep snipers on all of the newcomers, and weed out the bad ones, but instead they chose an alternative route.

Makes you wonder who they're going to encounter in the upcoming episodes, like the mortician guys who stole Beth. The preacher is an interesting character because he's remained untouched this whole time...which is feasible if they really did lock his congregation out & live off canned food for a couple years.

I think the cannibalism thing is doing what they "need" to survive (they could have been nomads/hunter gatherers) by eating people, but also a combo of their blind revenge on what the world has become. It's not like they even seemed to care about taking in any new comers that they thought could benefit them in any way. They ate everybody, regardless of who or what they were.

The reverend is an interesting guy. I think this show has pretty much pointed out and proven, nobody is 100% safe in this world. At some point, you come into contact with something that's dangerous, whether it's walkers or humans.

It's 99.99999 unlikely that he hasn't had any encounters up to this point. The whole "you will burn for this" thing kind of implies he did some sketchy shiz to be around at this point given the fact he doesn't have any weapons or seem to have any desire to fight.
 

Kaido

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It's 99.99999 unlikely that he hasn't had any encounters up to this point. The whole "you will burn for this" thing kind of implies he did some sketchy shiz to be around at this point given the fact he doesn't have any weapons or seem to have any desire to fight.

Remember how ultra-clean the mortician's house was when Beth & Darryl went there? Everything was pristine. The preacher's story checks out, but the car driving away on the road that took Beth had a cross on the back as well...what are the chances of two ultra-clean buildings in the same area? :hmm:
 

smackababy

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2. I think the baby is going to be the key to solving everything, since she was born after the zombie apocalypse. They need to (1) kill the walkers, and (2) cure the humans so that people don't have to deal with zombies anymore & don't become zombies in the future. I'm curious as to how many seasons they're going to drag this show on for, because the zombies are going to be falling apart pretty soon & won't be walkers anymore due to tissue reduction - it's already been a good 2 years and they're all starting to move pretty slow & look pretty thing, you know?

This is going to be what I think Mullet Man and his friends are waiting to reveal. That, even if they find a cure, all of them will die from it except the baby. They are all infected. Is Judith? Well, who knows at this point. We can assume yes, but babies aren't passed HIV from their mothers, why would a zombie virus be different?
 
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