The Walking Dead Season 5 - Official discussion thread

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AdamK47

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You guys called it. Bob was indeed bitten. It didn't matter though. The bad guys went out another way in the end.
 

Pocatello

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I don't understand how Gareth survived for so long. His monotone voice alone would get him shot by his friends after the apocalypse. If you're going to eat the guy, eat the guy, why talk? If you're going to shoot, shoot, don't talk.
 

KMFJD

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Aug 11, 2005
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Because that was a flashback to why they were doing what they were doing. (it said like 6 months ago right before it). That scene wasn't from after the events of the show. The scene also explains why they tear gassed them.

That wasn't a flashback
 

z1ggy

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Looks like the next bunch of episodes will be focusing on Beth, which I think will be a nice change of pace away from the Terminus stuff.
 

TheAdvocate

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Wtf was the A on the wall supposed to mean? A for Alex, Gareth's brother? Who is with Darryl - Morgan? I hope so. Also Beth is on talking dead next week. Is she a goner? Haha

Or maybe carol and darryl went rambo on the people who took beth and rescued some other people?

Dunno what the A was for, but the nathaniel hawthorne reference seems intentional - maybe I missed the tie in to events of the show.

I'm feeling confident darryl rescued some people. not sure who else will be with him. But he wouldn't have said "you can come out now" or whatever if it was (just) Carol or Beth. Especially Carol.

About Rick looking like herschel - how about him slowly tansforming into someone like the Governer? People hated the Governer because he killed people to protect his town. Not much difference in that and what Rick is willing to do these days.

All of his adversaries just seem to be further down the moral relativism path than him, but he is headed that way.

That's why I think Tyrese is important (though he is going to probably be pre-occupied trying to save his sister from falling into it). And did you notice Maggie & Glenn pulling back in revulsion at the church slaughter? I think there is gonna be a fundamental, philisophical schism in the group - will be interesting to see how different their outlooks are when they meet up again.
 
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ghost recon88

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I never expected Terminus and Gareth to be handled by episode 3. I really expected it to last until the midseason break, or longer.

Hopefully this means onto some new content. Perhaps the writers heard the community feedback about the prison and farm seasons.
 

smackababy

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Glad they killed off that group, but having Daryl return so soon and with someone else, possibly not Carol?
 

PokerGuy

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Kudos to some of the posters here for nailing all the points. Bob was indeed bitten and was going to be a gonner anyway. :thumbsup:

The termites dropped Bob off at the church to get a reaction from the group (get them to do something dumb), and they thought they'd succeeded when they watched the heavily armed group leave, thus walking right into the trap.

Dunno what the A was for, but the nathaniel hawthorne reference seems intentional - maybe I missed the tie in to events of the show.

I thought the same thing when I saw the "A". There are many themes in the show that parallel "the scarlet letter", including notions of morality, sin, repentance, etc. Gabriel has the idea (like the puritans) that his previous actions condemn him to hell no matter what, while Rick and the group have descended into a world of moral relativism where sins are balanced against good and what is needed / required.

I'm feeling confident darryl rescued some people. not sure who else will be with him. But he wouldn't have said "you can come out now" or whatever if it was (just) Carol or Beth. Especially Carol.

Exactly, Carol wouldn't be hiding and taking orders from Darryl. I can't imagine Beth would have already been rescued that quick, so I think Carol and Darryl rescued someone else and are bringing them back to the group.

And did you notice Maggie & Glenn pulling back in revulsion at the church slaughter? I think there is gonna be a fundamental, philisophical schism in the group

That might have played a part in their decision to go ahead and split up. You'd think that after all they'd gone through, they'd never want to split up again, but Maggie and Glenn maybe recognized that they can't be a part of the world that the rest of the group is descending into. They'd rather take their chances on a mission with a purpose. Something I don't get though, is why any of the crew (Rick etc) would want to stay at that church. What's the point? It isn't a strategic asset like the prison, there's nothing particularly useful about the place, and there doesn't appear to be anything in the area worth going after. Regardless of whether they plan to go to DC or not, why not set out on the bus together and split up at a later time when they come to a point where it makes sense? I don't get what Rick & co are sticking around for.
 

PokerGuy

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Hopefully this means onto some new content. Perhaps the writers heard the community feedback about the prison and farm seasons.

I'm REALLY glad they didn't draw out the conflict with the termites with Gareth as the new governor uber villain, that would get old in a hurry. I really wish they'd kind of revert their focus back to surviving vs zombies instead of conflict with other evil humans. The former made the show great, the latter is just your typical crappy drama with zombies as window dressing.
 

smackababy

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That might have played a part in their decision to go ahead and split up. You'd think that after all they'd gone through, they'd never want to split up again, but Maggie and Glenn maybe recognized that they can't be a part of the world that the rest of the group is descending into. They'd rather take their chances on a mission with a purpose. Something I don't get though, is why any of the crew (Rick etc) would want to stay at that church. What's the point? It isn't a strategic asset like the prison, there's nothing particularly useful about the place, and there doesn't appear to be anything in the area worth going after. Regardless of whether they plan to go to DC or not, why not set out on the bus together and split up at a later time when they come to a point where it makes sense? I don't get what Rick & co are sticking around for.

The group is staying because Daryl and Carol are gone and if they return, will return to the church.


I am thinking Daryl found the black guy that was following them and didn't want him to be seen first and shot on sight.
 

z1ggy

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Glad they killed off that group, but having Daryl return so soon and with someone else, possibly not Carol?

How long was he actually gone for?? If it was like 24-48 hours, it could be he went and got Beth (He and Carol followed that car, I believe with what they thought was Beth in it) and potentially some other people he found with her.

The next few episodes could be flash backs to what Beth experienced from last season when she got kidnapped up until Daryl finds her.
 

PokerGuy

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The group is staying because Daryl and Carol are gone and if they return, will return to the church.

Oh, duh, you're right, that makes sense, Rick didn't want to leave without them. I didn't think about that.

I am thinking Daryl found the black guy that was following them and didn't want him to be seen first and shot on sight.

Could very well be, we've seen the return of Morgan in the previews, so it could easily be him. I didn't think a lone wolf survivor like him would want to join the group again, but you never know.
 

pontifex

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That might have played a part in their decision to go ahead and split up. You'd think that after all they'd gone through, they'd never want to split up again, but Maggie and Glenn maybe recognized that they can't be a part of the world that the rest of the group is descending into. They'd rather take their chances on a mission with a purpose. Something I don't get though, is why any of the crew (Rick etc) would want to stay at that church. What's the point? It isn't a strategic asset like the prison, there's nothing particularly useful about the place, and there doesn't appear to be anything in the area worth going after. Regardless of whether they plan to go to DC or not, why not set out on the bus together and split up at a later time when they come to a point where it makes sense? I don't get what Rick & co are sticking around for.

they agreed to go before the whole slaughter in the church.
 

smackababy

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they agreed to go before the whole slaughter in the church.

While they did agree beforehand, it was deliberately shown they were disapproving of Rick's slaughtering of the Termites. They haven't given up all hope of keeping a moral compass while killing as little as possible. Rick has shed that silly notion. He knows someone has to protect their family, and if it means killing bad people, so be it.


At some point, Glen and Maggy will eventually come around to this, or die because they don't get it.

I believe this is also why Rick accepted Carol back into the group so easily. He realized she just "evolved" to that place before him.
 

Kaido

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Did Maggie ever ask about her sister, Beth?

What a deadbeat sister.

You know...that's a good point. However:

1. Maggie & Beth split up after the Governor destroyed the jail
2. Beth was hanging out with Darryl, but was then taken by the car
3. Darryl was captured by the Termites and mentioned that Beth was gone to Rick
4. Maggie may be still thinking that she's just been gone since the jail split

I don't recall if there was any dialogue between Maggie & Darryl in the cattle car or afterwards, so she simply may not know that Beth was with Darryl & got captured, because otherwise she probably would have gone looking for her with Glen.
 

smackababy

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I think the writers forgot they're sisters.

They talk about it when escaping. And, after coming about a few minutes from being turned into some BBQ, worrying about your sister who was abducted awhile go by who knows what and where seems kind of pointless. Remember, it happened before Daryl found the group of miscreants who Rick bit into. This was quite awhile ago.


It wasn't until Daryl even saw the car with the cross that he was able to even have a clue where to look for Beth. And, him returning, is likely to fetch backup.
 
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