The White vote.

[techs]

Let me settle this once and for all.
Spend a half an hour reading the posts in this forum.
You will certainly come to the conclusiion that the Republican partys supporters are racist, that they hate minorities and that they are often willing to do anything to keep minorities from exercising their right to vote.

Now, ask yourself why ANY minority would vote for the Republican party.

 

[HomerJS]

What if Obama was a Republican and the Democrats had a white guy ? Would the universe explode as black people voted for a republican at a rate of 100% ? Certainly race has nothing to do with such voting habits right, only white people can be racist dont forget..

I guess those 75% of Asians that voted for Obama just hate white guys??

 

[Doppel]

This is an unreal map of how racist white men are:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2230850/How-election-results-looked-universal-suffrage.html

Oh and before you chastise them too heroically I am positive that if this map was shown for blacks it would actually be worse and all blue, since blacks voting was even more racially driven in this election than white.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

This is an unreal map of how racist white men are:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2230850/How-election-results-looked-universal-suffrage.html

Oh and before you chastise them too heroically I am positive that if this map was shown for blacks it would actually be worse and all blue, since blacks voting was even more racially driven in this election than white.

I'd be interested in seeing maps at least back to 2000 or 1996 for black and white.

 

[CanOWorms]

I've been talking of the assimilation issues of white males in this country for a long time on this forum. It's good to see that it's now being embraced by more people, and especially in the mainstream media. It's a serious issue.

We need more community outreach programs to help these people become assimilated.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Let me settle this once and for all.
Spend a half an hour reading the posts in this forum.
You will certainly come to the conclusiion that the Republican partys supporters are racist, that they hate minorities and that they are often willing to do anything to keep minorities from exercising their right to vote.

Now, ask yourself why ANY minority would vote for the Republican party.

You don't need to read any posts in this forum. All you need to do is look at the numbers. Romney's supporters were almost 90% white non-hispanic. That is crazy. How is it even possible? It's because of identity politics. Romney is offering free stuff to all of these old white people, like free medicare and social security that won't change for all of these racist old white people. And then he says "but you know those others?" and he says "others" in a very demeaning way..."those people aren't going to get the free government cheese like my elderly white brethren are!" and that's why all of these racist white people start acting with their tribal behavior and voted for Romney.

White people who voted for ROmney just want free stuff and nobody else to have that same free stuff. They've been used to it for so long that they are shocked that everyone is going to be on an equal playing field now.

 

[lopri]

I'm a firm believer in real democracy. How well we've achieved that is a matter I'll leave aside for now.

I was wondering what he would make of how our system has evolved an about ourselves as stewards.

What do you mean by "real" democracy? Out of curiosity. There are quite a few forms of democratic governances and I think every single one is real in their own lights. If you are talking some other form of democracy that has not been introduced to human history please do share.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy

Are you talking about direct democracy where every individual gets to vote on every legislation?

 

[Siddhartha]

FDR, JFK, and LBJ collectively because of their support for minority rights won the US Afro-American voter's loyalty to the Democratic Party. They do not vote GOP because of it's Southern strategy (look how the southern states have voted since 1968), Mr Reagan's Welfare Queens and Bucks, Mr Romney's 47% being moochers, voter suppression in Ohio and Florida, etc.

Basically the Democratic Party, not including the southern Dixiecrats, over the last 70 years have done the most to help minority rights and the GOP over the last 40 years have sounded and behaved like racists.

For the sake of the country, I hope the GOP continues talking about the people who voted for Mr Obama so they can get "free stuff" and this bizzarro racist crap posted in the thread. Oh yeah keep talking about rape too!

 

[Athena]

Its very easy for minorities to vote. .

If you really believe this, you're another one who just doesn't get out enough.

Those of us who are fortunate enough to work in jobs that allow us to arrive late or leave early to vote are just that -- fortunate. You apparently don't know anyone who has to take two buses to get to work on time or risk having his pay docked. The people in your universe don't work swing-shifts across town and have to leave extra early to avoid getting caught in rush hour traffic.

Early voting wasn't instituted to get more minorities to vote; it was a strategy to increase Republic working-class vote. That's why the Ohio counties with majority Republican commissioners voted to restrict it to white-majority counties.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I've been talking of the assimilation issues of white males in this country for a long time on this forum. It's good to see that it's now being embraced by more people, and especially in the mainstream media. It's a serious issue.

We need more community outreach programs to help these people become assimilated.

Yep.

 

[Athena]

What if Obama was a Republican and the Democrats had a white guy ? Would the universe explode as black people voted for a republican at a rate of 100% ? Certainly race has nothing to do with such voting habits right, only white people can be racist dont forget..

You realize don't you, that from 1870 to 1970, blacks voted overwhelmingly for Republicans (even when they were voting for FDR, they were faithful to Republicans down ticket)? It was not until Nixon's "Southern Strategy", specifically constructed to attract the racists fleeing the Democratic party, that blacks moved to supporting Democratic candidates. For two generations, the Republican party has been quite open about its contempt for the black vote. IOW, Republicans made a deliberate choice between racist white and non-white voters and the results of that choice are now being felt big-time. That policy culminated in the election of George W. Bush; who won with virtually zero black voters -- all of whom voted for the "other white guy" and will be the last President to do so.

Kevin Phillips, strategist for Nixon, outlined it all in The Emerging Republican Majority .

 

[BarneyFife]

Let me settle this once and for all.
Spend a half an hour reading the posts in this forum.
You will certainly come to the conclusiion that the Republican partys supporters are racist, that they hate minorities and that they are often willing to do anything to keep minorities from exercising their right to vote.

Now, ask yourself why ANY minority would vote for the Republican party.

It was known for years but now with Obama it has come to the forefront. They hate blacks, asians, hispanics etc... They treat them like they are ignorant but now the immigrants and minorities are getting the last laugh while the Republicans are out hiding in the backwoods with guns.

 

[techs]

Being older than most people in this forum I am going to let you in on a little secret.
The minorities that Republicans hate and fear are going to be just like them in 30 years. That's the way America works and has worked for over two hundred years.

Thirty years from now there will hispanic-Americans on Fox News screaming about how Tibetans or Peruvians are destroying their America.

 

[Athena]

Thirty years from now there will hispanic-Americans on Fox News screaming about how Tibetans or Peruvians are destroying their America.

So you think that we'll see more Allen Wests from all spectrums of the non-white electorate?

 

[techs]

So you think that we'll see more Allen Wests from all spectrums of the non-white electorate?

As long as there is mental illness and paranoia there will always be Allen Wests.

 

[Darwin333]

What if Obama was a Republican and the Democrats had a white guy ? Would the universe explode as black people voted for a republican at a rate of 100% ? Certainly race has nothing to do with such voting habits right, only white people can be racist dont forget..

I hate to break it for you but a black republican candidate won't get much of the black vote.....

Black folk vote almost exclusively democrat, always have in recent history and most likely always will.

Anyone got the % of the black vote that Clinton got, bet its not much different than Obama.

 

[fskimospy]

I hate to break it for you but a black republican candidate won't get much of the black vote.....

Black folk vote almost exclusively democrat, always have in recent history and most likely always will.

Anyone got the % of the black vote that Clinton got, bet its not much different than Obama.

Funny thing is that despite being the 'first black president', Bill Clinton got a lower percentage of the black vote than most Democrats do. (it was somewhere in the mid-80's.) Regardless, while racial voting is a statistical estimate it's figured that Al Gore got somewhere around 93% and John Kerry a similar amount. So I guess Obama might have done a few points better than they did, but when you're already over 90% how much does it really matter?

It always bothers me when people say that black people who vote for Obama did so because of his race, but never seem to think that white people who vote for Romney did so. What a disgusting thing.

 

[michal1980]

Are you sure that you want to leave that chart there? You might cause some of these de-assimilated Romney voters to have a heart attack.

do you post anthing other then is lie of 'de-assimilated' republicans?

 

[RabidMongoose]

do you post anthing other then is lie of 'de-assimilated' republicans?

Yes I do. However, this issue of the white males who voted for Romney is likely going to be the most serious social issue of our times. What do we do with millions of unassimilated white males who refuse to interact with American society and culture and who live in their own reality where minorities don't exist?

Obama used to be a community organizer. Perhaps he can set up some sort of outreach program for these men.

 

[RabidMongoose]

It always bothers me when people say that black people who vote for Obama did so because of his race, but never seem to think that white people who vote for Romney did so. What a disgusting thing.

I guarantee that these white people (mostly men) who voted for Romney have never voted for a non-white President ever. Thus, it's more likely that they all voted based on race than any other group out there in America.

 

[michal1980]

Yes I do. However, this issue of the white males who voted for Romney is likely going to be the most serious social issue of our times. What do we do with millions of unassimilated white males who refuse to interact with American society and culture and who live in their own reality where minorities don't exist?

Obama used to be a community organizer. Perhaps he can set up some sort of outreach program for these men.

Geuss not.

Good to know your nothing more then a robot on repeat.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Geuss not.

Good to know your nothing more then a robot on repeat.

Don't worry, there is help out there coming from Obama soon.

 

[classy]

What if Obama was a Republican and the Democrats had a white guy ? Would the universe explode as black people voted for a republican at a rate of 100% ? Certainly race has nothing to do with such voting habits right, only white people can be racist dont forget..

I see this dumbass assumption posted all the time. Obama is not the first black candidate.

 

[wuliheron]

Over half the republican party lives in rural areas and these ignorant rednecks pushing antebellum politics, hate mongering, and Victorian era values won't give up the ghost for a few generations to come. The south lost the civil war, but it's taken this long for them to lose the culture wars and they're still in denial. What we need is some real competition in our political system and the only direction left to the conservatives is to attack corruption in the system. Seriously, they have nothing else to offer all the minorities and no other social agenda that half their constituency would accept.

 

[nageov3t]

Ahh.. here we go, yet another person that thinks blacks only started voting when Obama ran.

the question in my mind (that probably won't be answered until 2016 sees a white candidate again) is not if blacks would vote Republican without Obama (obv not), but if having the first mixed race candidate on the ballot caused turnout to spike (and if it will decrease when we're back to two old white guys running against each other)