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web22

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Hi everyone, Just installed a sensi thermostat which I had to change my wifi password in order for it to connect, now when I try to connect my wink hub back to wifi it does not want to connect to wifi,any ideas why?
 

IndyColtsFan

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I have a dumb question that may have been answered at one point but I can't seem to find an answer. Wink email notifications go to the master account by default. Can I have those notifications go to other addresses as well? I added my wife's email address as a user on one sensor - would she need to load the Wink app and confirm her own emails?
 

Davidms

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Yes, she needs to confirm. That's what my wife had to do to start receiving emails.

I have a question....

I have an outlet that turns on every morning for 1 hr, then off. Before the hub upgrade, wink would log the turn off state, but not the turn on state (under activity). After the hub upgrade wink now logs the turn on state but not the turn off state. Frustrating. I'd like it to log both states. Does anyone know how to fix this?
 

IndyColtsFan

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Got my ST v2 deployed this weekend. Some notes:

1. Sensor response time is fast - faster than what I am used to seeing with Wink.
2. I love that all of the SmartThings-branded sensors seem to also have a temperature sensor built in. Very useful. So you can buy the cheapest sensor they have available if all you need is temperature sensing in a room.
3. The app is a mess and I am having trouble finding things. For example, I remember being able to set some sort of interval for temperature sensing. I can't find that setting anywhere. Might have only been available during config or something.
4. I don't see a way to send emails in the application. Like Wink, it does support push notifications. It also supports SMS, which is great, but I'd also like emails. Believe I saw at there might be an add-on to allow this functionality but need to review more.
5. The SmartThings sensors are tanks - big and bulky. Their motion sensor is probably twice the size of Tripper in terms of bulk. Their motion sensor is cool looking but I need to look at the config more - it doesn't seem to have a motion detection delay setting like the Ecolink and as a result is constantly detecting motion. Battery life is already down to 88% after less than 1 day.
6. Absolutely LOVE the community support and ability to add custom devices. I've added the Tripper and Overflow device types but haven't paired them with the hub yet. I'll do that today, however. NOTE: The Wink community is pretty awesome as well, but I REALLY wish we had the ability to add custom devices.
7. SmartTiles is a must have IMO. I'm not sure I like it as well as Craig Trunzo's web front-end, but the cool thing is that you can add links to other dashboards in a tile so if I deployed tablet control panels and need both systems, I can access each dashboard that way.
8. Did I mention that the app is a mess?

I think I'll get used to the app over time, but they need more device config options available for editing. I HOPE that I am just missing something. Otherwise, the Wink app is significantly better IMO. Which one will I use going forward? I can't say for sure. I think both may have a place in my home - maybe I'll dedicate ST to certain things (like, perhaps, security) and Wink to others.
 
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RodolfoDLV

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Got my ST v2 deployed this weekend. Some notes:

1. Sensor response time is fast - faster than what I am used to seeing with Wink.
2. I love that all of the SmartThings-branded sensors seem to also have a temperature sensor built in. Very useful. So you can buy the cheapest sensor they have available if all you need it temperature sensing in a room.
3. The app is a mess and I am having trouble finding things. For example, I remember being able to set some sort of interval for temperature sensing. I can't find that setting anywhere. Might have only been available during config or something.
4. I don't see a way to send emails in the application. Like Wink, it does support push notifications. It also supports SMS, which is great, but I'd also like emails. Believe I saw at there might be an add-on to allow this functionality but need to review more.
5. The SmartThings sensors are tanks - big and bulky. Their motion sensor is probably twice the size of Tripper in terms of bulk. Their motion sensor is cool looking but I need to look at the config more - it doesn't seem to have a motion detection delay setting like the Ecolink and as a result is constantly detecting motion. Battery life is already down to 88% after less than 1 day.
6. Absolutely LOVE the community support and ability to add custom devices. I've added the Tripper and Overflow device types but haven't paired them with the hub yet. I'll do that today, however. NOTE: The Wink community is pretty awesome as well, but I REALLY wish we had the ability to add custom devices.
7. SmartTiles is a must have IMO. I'm not sure I like it as well as Craig Trunzo's web front-end, but the cool thing is that you can add links to other dashboards in a tile so if I deployed tablet control panels and need both systems, I can access each dashboard that way.
8. Did I mention that the app is a mess?

I think I'll get used to the app over time, but they need more device config options available for editing. I HOPE that I am just missing something. Otherwise, the Wink app is significantly better IMO. Which one will I use going forward? I can't say for sure. I think both may have a place in my home - maybe I'll dedicate ST to certain things (like, perhaps, security) and Wink to others.
Thanks a lot. I've been waiting for someone to post something like this. I'm sure the app you'll get used to, it's just a matter of time. Sensor bulkiness might have something to do with them sensing temperature and vibration as well (for the open/closed).

Please keep us posted!
 

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Thanks a lot. I've been waiting for someone to post something like this. I'm sure the app you'll get used to, it's just a matter of time. Sensor bulkiness might have something to do with them sensing temperature and vibration as well (for the open/closed).

Please keep us posted!

I do sometimes notice a delay in temperature reporting, which is why I wish I could remember where I saw that setting at. I put the motion sensor in my refrigerator and am attempting to see if it can communicate with the hub. I put it behind a half-full jar of olives and closed the door. When I shake the refrigerator, the olives move and it does actually communicate back to the hub that motion has occurred. It has not updated temperature, however.

They do have a new multisensory coming out for $40, which I may go ahead and preorder. I'd like to test the vibration feature and see how sensitive it is. I could use that in the laundry room to tell when the washer or dryer are done, for example, but since they're next to each other, I could see a lot of false positives occurring since they would probably vibrate each other.
 
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IndyColtsFan

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Oh, setup was also fairly easy. I did have a small problem pairing the motion sensor at first, but I pulled the battery and reinserted it and it paired right up. The open/close sensor paired on the first try. I have it in my bedroom as a temp sensor for now.

EDIT: Also forgot to mention that it appears that they do support Foscam cameras as motion sensors: https://community.smartthings.com/t...tion-sensor-alarm-integration-hd-non-hd/10695
 
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RodolfoDLV

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I do sometimes notice a delay in temperature reporting, which is why I wish I could remember where I saw that setting at. I put the motion sensor in my refrigerator and am attempting to see if it can communicate with the hub. I put it behind a half-full jar of olives and closed the door. When I shake the refrigerator, the olives move and it does actually communicate back to the hub that motion has occurred. It has not updated temperature, however.

They do have a new multisensory coming out for $40, which I may go ahead and preorder. I'd like to test the vibration feature and see how sensitive it is. I could use that in the laundry room to tell when the washer or dryer are done, for example, but since they're next to each other, I could see a lot of false positives occurring since they would probably vibrate each other.
I wouldn't trust the vibration for the laundry. I have a Spotter for that purpose and it reports vibration pretty well, but it gives me about 3 notifications saying laundry stopped. If I recall correctly, someone in the ST forum told me he tried that and it's not reliable. People use the AEON outlet on/off switches, but I don't know for sure.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
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I wouldn't trust the vibration for the laundry. I have a Spotter for that purpose and it reports vibration pretty well, but it gives me about 3 notifications saying laundry stopped. If I recall correctly, someone in the ST forum told me he tried that and it's not reliable. People use the AEON outlet on/off switches, but I don't know for sure.

I'm just looking for excuses to buy new sensors.
 

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Tripper paired up with it pretty easily and seems to work great. Haven't tried the Overflow yet - I might sell those on eBay or something, haven't decided yet.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I'll take your Overflow.

I'll keep that in mind. Haven't decided for sure what to do yet. I wouldn't mind water sensors under my water heater and perhaps in the laundry room, but wondering if I should just get the ST sensors instead and sell these. ST does supposedly support the Overflow.
 

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I'll keep that in mind. Haven't decided for sure what to do yet. I wouldn't mind water sensors under my water heater and perhaps in the laundry room, but wondering if I should just get the ST sensors instead and sell these. ST does supposedly support the Overflow.

That's exactly were I have both of mine. If they were still in production and I had a bizarre need to detect every possible water leak, I would put one under each sink (Kitchen, bathroom, etc) and under each toilet.
 

IndyColtsFan

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That's exactly were I have both of mine. If they were still in production and I had a bizarre need to detect every possible water leak, I would put one under each sink (Kitchen, bathroom, etc) and under each toilet.

Are you the same guy on the Wink FB group talking about SmartThings and showed the SmartTiles app? If so, do you know if SmartThings has a comparable FB users group?
 

IndyColtsFan

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Battery life on the SmartThings sensors leaves a lot to be desired so far. I really hoping that the reporting is wrong....
 

RodolfoDLV

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I recently read a thread in the ST abou5 some sensor having battery issues. Apparently it goes down very fast and stops at about 77% and just stays there for like months. Apparently it's not much the battery life itself but more the way it is reported.
 

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Lifer
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I recently read a thread in the ST abou5 some sensor having battery issues. Apparently it goes down very fast and stops at about 77% and just stays there for like months. Apparently it's not much the battery life itself but more the way it is reported.

Yeah, I saw that thread. I HOPE that's the issue with the open/close sensor. The motion sensor, on the other hand, wouldn't be surprising for it to lose battery power faster - it is in a refrigerator and it probably has to do communication retries often. I'm wondering if perhaps I should deploy a GE Link bulb to act as a repeater and see if that helps.
 

lsd

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Yeah, I saw that thread. I HOPE that's the issue with the open/close sensor. The motion sensor, on the other hand, wouldn't be surprising for it to lose battery power faster - it is in a refrigerator and it probably has to do communication retries often. I'm wondering if perhaps I should deploy a GE Link bulb to act as a repeater and see if that helps.

Mine are doing the samething. When I added them they showed 88% and right now they are 77%. Performance has been great with them though.
 
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