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MjnMixael

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I do have an extra hub that I was going to root and play with at some point. (I was getting two bulbs and the hub was $1 still.. so I figured why the hell not?)

Now I just need to find the time and the brain-space to figure that all out and do it.
 

Kneedragger

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Not yet, but I cannot WAIT to settle in for a weekend and research/try this stuff!
That is pretty much the only thing that might make Wink worthwhile now?

I was really excited to see Smart Things announced their next gen box but they didnt mention anything about not needing their servers access all the time. From reading about Wink and Smart Things in their forum it seems to be a big issue. A bit of a let down...
 

TexasWinkUser

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Yeah, I've had that happen occasionally - it's like it's pulling the latest inventory list of your equipment off Wink's servers or something.

Happens EVERY time I open the Wink app on my phone. EVERY SINGLE TIME

And I just realized I'm past my 30 days for returning this half baked crap.

I was hoping for simple robot functionality like:

...if my driveway light is on for more than 10 minutes, turn it off.
...if I'm home and it's before 11pm, I don't care that the door to the garage has opened 10 times.
...if the garage door is open for more than 30 minutes (tripper), send me a text something.

The trippers are next to useless. My Robot butler sucks.
 
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MjnMixael

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My Robot butler sucks.

Ahaha.

That gave me a vision of you being shipped a robot like in their commercials and he ended up being a complete idiot. It was just a funny visual.

Though, in contrast, my Robot Butler seems at least competent. He turns on the lights in the morning, turns on the room fan at night, turns on the space heater when necessary, helps me automate my Philips Hue lights (see video a page back), and does a few other miscellaneous things.

In my experience, Robots that are based on 'Anytime' or times within short timespans work well. But Robots based on something like 6am-11pm don't for some reason. That's not well tested, but just my hunch based on my small bit of experience. Here's hoping Robots get better.. because those more 'advanced' functions you mentioned would be super handy.
 

GdgtSam

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Here is my current list of top grievances with Wink. I sent this list as a follow-up to a support request that I opened with them going on 3 weeks ago and have not received a single reply.



1. Allow a light group to be referenced in a robot instead of having to pick individual lights each time.
2. Create a "sunset" and "sunrise" option for schedules, even better, allow to set it to 'X' minutes before or after sunset or sunrise.
3. In a robot, have the ability to specify a start time on one day and the end time the next. This is a huge issue as I can't tell a robot to be active between the hours of say 5pm and 5am the next day. I currently have to do a ridiculous work around of creating 2 robots, one that ends at 11:59PM and another that begins at 12:00am and ends whenever I actually intended it to end.
4. I have a robot that when it detects smoke on one of my Nest Protects to turn all the lights on (again, selecting a light group would be much easier), however, I have to create a separate robot for each Nest protect. Having the ability to select more than one Protect would make things much cleaner and simpler. Same thing applies to the Chamberlain door integration, I have to create 2 separate robots if I want to turn the lights on if either door opens.
 

azgdds

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None of my GE bulbs are connected today. Can't control them from wink at all. Argh!

Unplugged/plugged in the hub, now they work. Not ideal.
 
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jmcguire525

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That is pretty much the only thing that might make Wink worthwhile now?

I was really excited to see Smart Things announced their next gen box but they didnt mention anything about not needing their servers access all the time. From reading about Wink and Smart Things in their forum it seems to be a big issue. A bit of a let down...

"local app engine" I assume that means you won't always need their servers, why else would they add a battery backup?
 
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1. Scheduling works...sometimes. Geofencing works...sometimes.
I wanted to drop my $0.02 in about Geofencing. Geofencing is really, really difficult. I use an android phone using Tasker and a Geofencinng plugin(autolocation). Autolocation provides a lot more control of geofencing. First off, the location that the phone reports via GPS and WiFi isn't exact, will vary over time and can be wildly off. Second, the reporting of location may not occur on a regular basis. If you have the screen on, on my phone, various apps request location. However, if the screen is off, the polling of the location will not occur often, this is to save battery power.

For example, I have a task that locks my door when I leave the house(as well as several other things). I have set it to beep when the task executes. When I have the screen off, I usually hear the beep when I'm about half a block from my house. When I return, I often do not hear the beep prior to getting to my locked door(if I open the phone, it'll immediately geolocate).
 
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nyvram

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Wear is awesome with wink. I love getting the notifications that geofencing locked my door or notices during the day that the door has unlocked and by who via wrist vibration. Profiles are great.

Notifications are the killer feature for wear right now.
 

IndyColtsFan

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None of my GE bulbs are connected today. Can't control them from wink at all. Argh!

Unplugged/plugged in the hub, now they work. Not ideal.

This has happened to me a couple of times over the past 3 weeks or so. A hub reboot always seems to fix it, but it is annoying.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I read about a battery back up but I didn't see anything implying local control.

SmartThings is working on local control and I believe that is what they mean by the "local app engine." I read a discussion thread on one of their forums discussing possible features for v2.0 and a member of their staff said local control is something they intend to have in v2.0. I'll see if I can find the thread and will link it here.

EDIT: Here it is.

For my part, I'm having a REALLY hard time understanding why all these companies seem to think local control wasn't necessary to begin with. It sounds to me like business types obsessed with the cloud buzzword got involved or programmers who maybe don't have major infrastructure experience didn't think through all the implications. I can tell you that if I had designed one of these systems, local control would've been the PRIMARY consideration, with cloud integration secondary. I understand that unless you want to make the solution REALLY complicated, you do have to have some degree of cloud integration in order to be able to control your stuff from a phone anywhere in the world; however, I would guess that the majority of uses of these products would be while one is INSIDE the house and therefore, you would presumably have access to the hub via the local network. Also, I think it is a major mistake for these manufacturers NOT to put a hardwired Ethernet port on the hubs. Wink highlights the potential for interference from wireless sources but yet, seems oblivious to the fact that some of that could be resolved with a physical Ethernet port.

I also would've had web front ends for the hub accessible from any browser AND some advanced options available, but I'm a geek and understand Joe User may not need the advanced options (thought I think a web dashboard is something most would want). I can't speak for other companies because I don't have experience with their products, but I can say that I believe Wink has caused more problems than it has solved by dumbing the solution down so much. Also, from my limited experience of emailing once for support, I was not impressed at all.

What I try to do every year is one major tech project for the house. This year, I wanted to do home automation. I'm hoping that by the summer, everything announced at CES will be out, we'll have some reviews, and hopefully I'll have a direction to go in. I just can't see Wink being that long-term direction.
 
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ieee_raider

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Wear is awesome with wink. I love getting the notifications that geofencing locked my door or notices during the day that the door has unlocked and by who via wrist vibration. Profiles are great.

Notifications are the killer feature for wear right now.

My wear doesn't work with wink, unless I start wink on my phone. (every few hours)
It could be that with lollipop's memory leak, the app doesn't stay running in the background. I sent in a support request and they said that it was known and would be resolved in the next app update (they told me that last night)
 

Kneedragger

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SmartThings is working on local control and I believe that is what they mean by the "local app engine." I read a discussion thread on one of their forums discussing possible features for v2.0 and a member of their staff said local control is something they intend to have in v2.0. I'll see if I can find the thread and will link it here.

EDIT: Here it is.

For my part, I'm having a REALLY hard time understanding why all these companies seem to think local control wasn't necessary to begin with. It sounds to me like business types obsessed with the cloud buzzword got involved or programmers who maybe don't have major infrastructure experience didn't think through all the implications. I can tell you that if I had designed one of these systems, local control would've been the PRIMARY consideration, with cloud integration secondary. I understand that unless you want to make the solution REALLY complicated, you do have to have some degree of cloud integration in order to be able to control your stuff from a phone anywhere in the world; however, I would guess that the majority of uses of these products would be while one is INSIDE the house and therefore, you would presumably have access to the hub via the local network. Also, I think it is a major mistake for these manufacturers NOT to put a hardwired Ethernet port on the hubs. Wink highlights the potential for interference from wireless sources but yet, seems oblivious to the fact that some of that could be resolved with a physical Ethernet port.

I also would've had web front ends for the hub accessible from any browser AND some advanced options available, but I'm a geek and understand Joe User may not need the advanced options (thought I think a web dashboard is something most would want). I can't speak for other companies because I don't have experience with their products, but I can say that I believe Wink has caused more problems than it has solved by dumbing the solution down so much. Also, from my limited experience of emailing once for support, I was not impressed at all.

What I try to do every year is one major tech project for the house. This year, I wanted to do home automation. I'm hoping that by the summer, everything announced at CES will be out, we'll have some reviews, and hopefully I'll have a direction to go in. I just can't see Wink being that long-term direction.

Thanks. When I find some time I'll check it out.

Yeah I don't know how they thought 100% cloud was going to work but I think local 100% should have been in place from the start with maybe a cloud check in every hour or something..
 
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nyvram

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My wear doesn't work with wink, unless I start wink on my phone. (every few hours)
It could be that with lollipop's memory leak, the app doesn't stay running in the background. I sent in a support request and they said that it was known and would be resolved in the next app update (they told me that last night)
I've had trouble with the shortcuts working on my wear device. However the notifications work well but maybe that's because my wink app is constantly running on my phone because people at home or opening and closing the garage door and the front door so I get notifications all day
 

RossMAN

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My 3 sets of Trippers should arrive today and I have 30 days from today to return them.

Should I keep them or send them back?
 

IndyColtsFan

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My 3 sets of Trippers should arrive today and I have 30 days from today to return them.

Should I keep them or send them back?

If it were me, I'd probably experiment with one set and if I don't like what I see, I'd send them back. I'm not happy with the battery life I've seen so far and if this new battery I installed fails quickly, I might see about returning them.
 

atyoyo

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So today my tripper notification was over 1 hour late. I checked the status and sure enough the battery is showing low. This tripper is on the garage door where temps are colder so maybe that's the problem. Absolute garbage product. I wouldn't recommend this to anyone in a million years. Whenever someone asks about the white 'box' I tell them to don't even think of getting it.

Anyone who installs this having their family depending on it is grounds for divorce in my book.
 

IndyColtsFan

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So today my tripper notification was over 1 hour late. I checked the status and sure enough the battery is showing low. This tripper is on the garage door where temps are colder so maybe that's the problem. Absolute garbage product. I wouldn't recommend this to anyone in a million years. Whenever someone asks about the white 'box' I tell them to don't even think of getting it.

Anyone who installs this having their family depending on it is grounds for divorce in my book.

Just out of curiosity, how far is your Tripper from your hub?
 

sprchrgd1

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I have been following this thread since day one after picking my hub when it was first available at Home Depot. The complete and total lack of documentation and support from Wink is beyond terrible. First problems were "pairing" the Quirky sensors with my Android phone. Had to use my wifes Apple to get it done. Second the Wink "Compatible" Leviton switches never once have reported the correct state of on/off. The scheduling did work for my Outdoor Christmas lights which I was completely shocked that it did work every single day. Another switch I used to fire up my forced air gas heater in the garage worked twice and unless I reboot the Hub will not work. The Chamberlain MyQ integration was a great idea but unfortunately the app keeps reporting "Please check your garage door" while the MyQ app works without a hitch. I have sent five email messages to Wink in the last month and half and have not received one reply. I also tried to call their tech line and was not going to wait the anticipated 45 minute wait time. I guess I had such high hopes, dreams and ambitions for this product that my faith in Wink has come crashing down to an end. I was planning on replacing all the switches in my home that get used every day now that will not happen with the Wink hub. Local control on the Wink is a must have and, with no updates coming from Wink their products are not in my homes future. I guess I will be like most of the other people on this thread and wait until "Smart Things" releases their V2 hub. Even if it cost more than the current $99
 

IndyColtsFan

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About 30-40 feet away, 2 rooms away diagonally. The other tripper is much closer so maybe it has to do with the distance.

I think it might have to do with distance. Another guy posted a review on Amazon and he has had battery issues too and said his Trippers are far away from the hub. He was thinking it might be due to the Trippers dropping connectivity regularly and having to re-establish.
 

ieee_raider

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I think it might have to do with distance. Another guy posted a review on Amazon and he has had battery issues too and said his Trippers are far away from the hub. He was thinking it might be due to the Trippers dropping connectivity regularly and having to re-establish.

So, trippers use Zigbee, which is mesh networking kind of like Z-Wave.
But passive devices, like door and window sensors don't act as part of the mesh.
So if you have outlets and switches, and Link light bulbs (anything using zigbee that's plugged in) then those devices increase the range. The signal bounces from one to the other.
So you could add a Link light bulb, or a Jasco/GE zigbee plug module, or something in between to improve that signal.
 

aosmer

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Looks like Wink is having issues with the Pivot Power Genius being offline today. I've tried unplugging and plugging it back in, but it's still offline. Nothing on the Wink status page, but I see others complaining about it on Twitter. I guess I never should have said I had no issues, because these past few days have been a mess.
 
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