The Wink home automation thread

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Kaido

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Wink's partnership with GE is similar. On the beta side, we've done surveys regarding all major kitchen appliances. They are definitely working on other products. Quirky's also just recently shown off a coffee maker, baby bottle warmer, and pet feeder. My point is that they have the resources with GE to almost match Samsung in the product department.

Wink also has the Home Depot partnership as an advantage. Home Depot has talked about ensuring they are selling connected products. I'm sure GE would get priority over Samsung as long as this partnership is intact.

Of course, while those partnerships exist, there's a lot of If's and Hopefully's. Wink just needs to take advantage of what they've put in play.

Nice! I do like the GE & Home Depot integration. Really my only gripe is the required cloud relay. Well, that and the somewhat funky & inflexible app design. So we'll see how well Samsung addresses those two items.
 

mal11

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my 8 GE Link lights recently went unresponsive too.....
I had to delete all hub settings, reset lights, and the re-pair all of them individually (painful process with recessed lights since you have to unscrew them).....

they should just open the platform up the opensource community.....
they'd have great software with real log files and debugging if they did

I guess hub update 0.82 is being gradually rolled out to users. Not sure what the big changes are at this stage. I've noticed that twice in the last 2-3 days, my lights have been unresponsive and I've had to reboot the hub to fix them. Not sure what the issue is.
 

quagga

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my 8 GE Link lights recently went unresponsive too.....
I had to delete all hub settings, reset lights, and the re-pair all of them individually (painful process with recessed lights since you have to unscrew them).....

they should just open the platform up the opensource community.....
they'd have great software with real log files and debugging if they did

The GE lights have a bit of a bad reputation for developing amnesia. I have 4 BR30 models which have never given me any grief though. My 14 Cree are also rock solid as are my 4 Hue (although they have limited functionality with Wink).

I don't get the impression Wink is interested in open sourcing the platform or developing a developer community. I share that desire but I think that road leads to SmartThings and building your own SmartApps in groovy, etc.
 

Kaido

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The GE lights have a bit of a bad reputation for developing amnesia.

Mine quit working yesterday (again). Firmware .77. Went for a walk with my wife & wanted to toggle the light as I walked out the door with my fancypants smartphone app - nope! No response. That earned a snicker, thanks Wink
 

IndyColtsFan

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Mine quit working yesterday (again). Firmware .77. Went for a walk with my wife & wanted to toggle the light as I walked out the door with my fancypants smartphone app - nope! No response. That earned a snicker, thanks Wink

I've only ever had to re-pair one of the lights IIRC. Otherwise, in the last couple of weeks, there were times when neither of my two deployed GE bulbs worked with the app. Both times, rebooting the hub fixed the issue. Not sure what happened to be honest, but I am also still on 0.77.

I have two other GE bulbs I have not installed yet, but we're going on vacation soon and I was thinking about putting them in a couple of different rooms and having them turn off/on at certain times every night in order to simulate us being home. Internet access is going to be a little limited where I'll be, so I HOPE they work OK because I won't be able to check frequently and I certainly won't be able to reboot the hub.
 

Kaido

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Internet access is going to be a little limited where I'll be, so I HOPE they work OK because I won't be able to check frequently and I certainly won't be able to reboot the hub.

There's some tricks you can use in order to do stuff like that. I have a Monostrip, which is basically a budget IP-PDU (smart power switch):

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2269658

You can turn it on/off via Wifi or 3G, so if you have the Wink Hub plugged into one of the outlets, that would let you manually power cycle it as needed. Just did a quick check on their product page & it looks like they have a newer version of what I have available. Downside is it's about $125

http://www.amazon.com/Visible-Energy-VE-178-US-Power-Center/dp/B0057HX17K/
 

quagga

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I'm on .82 but I haven't noticed anything different. I tweeted at Wink and their support just pushed the update. It apparently improves reliability with the hub. Whatever that means.

Most of my issues with Wink are wanting to use hardware which works on other HA platforms, and the latency. The new lag in the app when you open it and it is polling for status updates is awful. I want to open the app, issue a command, and move on. Now it's hanging before I can do that.
 

IndyColtsFan

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2 of my 3 garage door Trippers were showing open even though the garage doors were closed. I reopened and closed one door a couple of times and it seems to have worked, but the other Tripper just isn't working. It is a real pain having to re-pair those....
 

FreddieT

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Internet access is going to be a little limited where I'll be, so I HOPE they work OK because I won't be able to check frequently and I certainly won't be able to reboot the hub.

An option I use which has worked pretty reliably and is relatively inexpensive is use a Wemo Switch. You can access the switch remotely over Wifi and 4G. It does the trick if you're just looking to turn off then on the load, which in this case is the Wink hub. And for $35 you can't go wrong.
 

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So, it has been awhile since I asked, but I'll ask again -- anyone using the Remotec ZXT-120 Z-wave to IR air conditioning controller with Wink?

http://www.amazon.com/Remotec-Z-Wav...p/B00CJBBYS0/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

I REALLY want to buy one for the portable AC unit in my office, but won't without ensuring it works with Wink first.

I haven't bought one myself but the user guide I found (http://www.zwaveproducts.com/layout/manuals/remotec_ZXT-120_user-manual.pdf) seems to imply that you can add it as a Z-Wave Thermostat. However, I don't think you can program the IR codes using the Wink Hub. Perhaps you can use a secondary Z-Wave controller for that?
 

IndyColtsFan

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An option I use which has worked pretty reliably and is relatively inexpensive is use a Wemo Switch. You can access the switch remotely over Wifi and 4G. It does the trick if you're just looking to turn off then on the load, which in this case is the Wink hub. And for $35 you can't go wrong.

Thanks I'll look into that.
 

IndyColtsFan

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So, I think this one tripper that is giving me trouble may be having connectivity issues. It worked fine for a couple of months so I wonder if there is a new source of interference on that side of my house. Does anyone make a vanilla zigbee repeater? Not sure I currently have a need for another device between the hub and garage at this point but if I have to do that as opposed to a repeater, I can. Do the GE lights act as repeaters?
 

MjnMixael

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My understanding is that all zigbee devices are also repeaters because it's a mesh network.

Also, I'm using an old Android phone to run some Wink Tasker-Robots and a few IFTTT things. I originally set this up using Google Voice texting since the phone is not on a service plan. The texting seems to have been broken since Voice really, really wants that phone to have a network phone number. Sooooooo... anyone got any ideas of a service I can use to replace it?

I need it to work with IFTTT and really I just need to ping the the phone. For example, I had setup an event in Tasker when a text is received that says #Roku Tasker would turn on my tv (using Harmony Remote) and tell Wink to set the lights. So I need to be able to ping the phone with some sort of unique/reliable ID. Any ideas?
 
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JohnK203

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There's some tricks you can use in order to do stuff like that. I have a Monostrip, which is basically a budget IP-PDU (smart power switch):

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2269658

You can turn it on/off via Wifi or 3G, so if you have the Wink Hub plugged into one of the outlets, that would let you manually power cycle it as needed. Just did a quick check on their product page & it looks like they have a newer version of what I have available. Downside is it's about $125

http://www.amazon.com/Visible-Energy-VE-178-US-Power-Center/dp/B0057HX17K/


What I have done to resolve this is buy a $10/$15 low light timer from HD. I have my hub plugged into that and it cycles power once a day - turns off for 1 minute and then back on. Low tech...never think about it.

Knock wood, have had no issues with hub hanging since I did this...went this route since WeMo and others have also had issues and are much more expensive. It's been about 10 weeks since I have put this is place.
 

CAL7

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Also, I'm using an old Android phone to run some Wink Tasker-Robots and a few IFTTT things. I originally set this up using Google Voice texting since the phone is not on a service plan. The texting seems to have been broken since Voice really, really wants that phone to have a network phone number. Sooooooo... anyone got any ideas of a service I can use to replace it
I'm using Google Voice on both a phone and a tablet, neither of which have a phone number. I happen to also be using GV with Hangouts, but that isn't necessary. I think you can make it work.
 

JFHughes08088

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Google Voice gives you a "phone number" that can be directed to any other phone number you have. Example = when someone calls my Google phone number, it rings my home AND cell number, allowing me to give one number to people who can reach me regardless of where I am. The person can also text me on that number, which I see using Google's Hangouts app. The hangouts app also allows me to make phone calls over wifi (think video chat). I have Wink set up to text notifications to my Google voice number, which I can read on my iPhone (Hangouts app) or android tablet (also using hangouts app) The tablet is wifi only so like the posters phone, no service plan would be necessary, just connect the old android phone to his home wifi network.
 
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Kaido

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What I have done to resolve this is buy a $10/$15 low light timer from HD. I have my hub plugged into that and it cycles power once a day - turns off for 1 minute and then back on. Low tech...never think about it.

Knock wood, have had no issues with hub hanging since I did this...went this route since WeMo and others have also had issues and are much more expensive. It's been about 10 weeks since I have put this is place.

Hah, genius! Which one did you get?
 

FreddieT

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What I have done to resolve this is buy a $10/$15 low light timer from HD. I have my hub plugged into that and it cycles power once a day - turns off for 1 minute and then back on. Low tech...never think about it.

Knock wood, have had no issues with hub hanging since I did this...went this route since WeMo and others have also had issues and are much more expensive. It's been about 10 weeks since I have put this is place.
Sometimes we get so wrapped up in Hi-tech solutions that it only ends up creating more headaches when in fact the best and most reliable answer is something low-tech like this! Brilliant.
 

JohnK203

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Sometimes we get so wrapped up in Hi-tech solutions that it only ends up creating more headaches when in fact the best and most reliable answer is something low-tech like this! Brilliant.

So the one I have been using is:
http://t.homedepot.com/p/Defiant-15-Amp-7-Day-Plug-In-2-Outlet-Digital-Timer-49808/203678095/
It can do 1 minute increments and also has two plugs not that I have used the second for anything but decided it was both a couple bucks more just in case...after all I was saving at least twice as much over a WeMo or similar product introducing another technology
 

Kaido

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So the one I have been using is:
http://t.homedepot.com/p/Defiant-15-Amp-7-Day-Plug-In-2-Outlet-Digital-Timer-49808/203678095/
It can do 1 minute increments and also has two plugs not that I have used the second for anything but decided it was both a couple bucks more just in case...after all I was saving at least twice as much over a WeMo or similar product introducing another technology

Awesome, thanks! Going to swing by Home Depot & set it up for like a 2am reboot. $15 is a good investment to fix the reboot issue until STv2 comes out
 

FreddieT

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A relatively steady stretch of my Wink enabled items behaving normally, I was considering adding my thermostat to the Wink hub, but noticed a weird event that has been happening for quite awhile and I have no idea why. I stumbled across the event in the activity list after I noticed something weird happening with my Leviton outlet.

I have a Leviton outlet that I have programmed to switch on everyday at 4:30 PM, and off again at 11 PM. Everyday I come home from work, it is switched on as expected. But lately, I've been noticing it being on again in mornings before I leave for work. I didn't think it was a big deal because every now and then the Hub would skip a beat and forget to turn it off. A quick reboot of the Hub would usually clear it up and it would be back on schedule. However, this time rebooting does not resolve the issue, and the listing in the activity has me puzzled.

The Hub has been turning my Leviton on everyday at 4:26 PM as opposed to the programmed 4:30 PM. No big deal, I can live with a 4 min lag to the switch. However, it is also turning the switch on again at 4:26 AM! Where is it picking up this command to turn it on? I have deleted the on/off schedule for this outlet and reprogrammed it a few times, and each time, regardless of the time programmed the Hub will arbitrarily turn the outlet back on EXACTLY 12 hours before its supposed too!

Has my hub become possessed or has it just found another way to mess with my sanity?
 

aosmer

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Way to go Wink on the IFTTT functionality. I now have it setup to trigger stuff from Life360, so I now have a functional replacement for the poor geolocation that the Wink robots have. The best part it works will multiple devices, so when one leaves it doesn't turn everything off.
 

CAL7

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I have an Ecolink PIR ( same unit that others have reported working fine). I successfully paired mine a couple of months ago, but within a few days, it unpaired and nothing I do will enable it to talk to my Wink hub. Old news.

But today I called Ecolink to get some help. I found a very helpful engineer who spent a lot of time on the phone with me. He reports that a few have paired, although the Wink hub he has will not talk to his PIR. His next statement stunned me: "Wink has blocked our products". He didn't say that Ecolink is not Wink-certified so it's hit-or-miss, but that Wink explicitly blocks pairing to Ecolink products and demands payment to unblock.

If true (big IF to me), it's nonsensical. Wink's in no position to act like a dominant market leader; their very existence depends on a ecosystem of compatible products. Further, doesn't adherence to the Z-Wave Alliance standards require openness?

OTOH, SmartThings has reached out to them to work cooperatively.
 
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