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JohnK203

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Jan 15, 2015
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Has anyone tried interfacing the Orvibo Allone infrared controller with the Wink system?

It supports commands via the Tasker UDP sender plugin, and the Ninjablocks folks have already made a working driver over at https://discuss.ninjablocks.com/t/beta-ninja-allone-driver-for-orvibo-allone-ir-blaster/2325

Got mine for 30 bucks off Amazon, it's a learning-capable device with excellent range.
The included app isn't bad, but it'd be perfect if Wink were able interface with it!

Anyone have a solution like this working?
 

quagga

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Mar 8, 2015
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Please keep us updated! They have a very active community that I lurk on. Lots of excitement building for their second-gen hub offering :thumbsup:

I spent the day switching over, repairing bulbs etc. I then tried to talk my wife into the crazy steps ST wants to dim a group of SmartBulbs. Her response was that this had a very small WAF. And after thinking about it, fighting with it some more, I decided, this sucks.

So, the ST Hub is back in the Amazon box with a return label on it. The only highlight was that for a little bit, my Aeotec Minimote worked great. After discussing with the wife, I repaired nearly all of the bulbs - to the Philips Hue hub. Local control, works instantly and has cloud control if I'm away from home. It closes the much desired link.

Wink of course has relatively poor integration with Hue (so does ST for that matter) so I kept some of the lights, such as the entrance lights and outside lights on Wink so the Trippers can set them off when I open the door.

So while I'm not the biggest fan of Wink's UI, it's far saner than ST's. I get the impression ST is more geared to someone who wants to make everything "automatic". Walk into the room, the lights turn on, your robo-butler starts making your dinner etc. I just like the ability to turn lights on / off / dim from my couch.

Now I need to figure out what I'm going to use the $50 credit for on wink.com. It appears everyone has cleared out the goodies (I wanted the Leviton appliance module). I don't really need any more smart bulb as nearly every bulb in the house is smart at this point.
 

quagga

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Mar 8, 2015
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What I would like to see:

1. Support for Eve Irrigation (has moisture sensors)
2. Support for Ubiquiti Networks' UniFi Micro webcam
3. Support for Okidokeys entry system
4. Support for Roomba, Scooba, Lawnbott, Robomow, etc. Third-party interface options such as SparkFun's RooTooth exist. Would be neat to kick off the Roomba wirelessly, haha - "oh crap, MIL is coming over, go into cleaning mode!"
5. Support for Remotec Z-Wave ZXT-120 IR Extender for Air Conditioners (apparently supports the standalone mini-split ductless Mitsubishi Mr. Slim HVAC units)
6. Support for Logitech Harmony Smart Control IR blasters (2-way support ideally...from Wink Hub to the Wifi blaster & from the Harmony remote to other functions...i.e. friend shows up while you're watching a movie, hit a button on the physical remote to unlock the front door)
7. Support for Aeotec products, especially the insane new Multisensor 6

Your number 7 is my number one. Or Fibaro. But I want a decent temperature sensor (not a spotter or spotter 2 or spotter 3, etc). It's something I feel is missing in my setup. But I already have Aeotec's minimote so getting that up and running would be great.

I'd like support for a tilt sensor. There are all these overly complicated "Is my garage door open?" sensors. A tilt sensor tapped to the door is way simpler; easy to install and to remove when we move.

IFTTT trigger support (the IF).
 

JFHughes08088

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Back online, mostly. Couldn't get the damn Motorola surfboard (which I own! ) to accept a DNS change, no matter what I tried. Put through modem into bridge mode, disabled wifi, connected via cat5 to a new linksys router via wifi. The router allows for a dns change but still wouldn't allow hub online to update.

Took the damn thing to GF'S and changed dns settings on her fios router (easily), update took in 5 minutes.

Guess I'm going to by a non-Motorola cable modem soon. Any recommendations?
 

CAL7

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Sep 29, 2014
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I'd like support for a tilt sensor. There are all these overly complicated "Is my garage door open?" sensors. A tilt sensor tapped to the door is way simpler; easy to install and to remove when we move.
This is perplexing. You'd think a tilt sensor wrote be as simple (and useful) a device as you could imagine. I have that cheap Ecolink garage door tilt, but Wink support told me it was not supported and would not work.

Compared to the horrible support for generic Z-Wave devices, the massive weekend outage is no concern to me. Give me the former and I'll tolerate the latter.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Sep 22, 2007
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Your number 7 is my number one. Or Fibaro. But I want a decent temperature sensor (not a spotter or spotter 2 or spotter 3, etc). It's something I feel is missing in my setup. But I already have Aeotec's minimote so getting that up and running would be great.

I'd like support for a tilt sensor. There are all these overly complicated "Is my garage door open?" sensors. A tilt sensor tapped to the door is way simpler; easy to install and to remove when we move.

IFTTT trigger support (the IF).

I use Trippers for garage door sensors. They have worked fine until recently, when they seem to stop reporting to the hub periodically. I believe it is an interference issue and hope that moving a Zigbee device between them and the hub will fix the issue.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Sep 22, 2007
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Back online, mostly. Couldn't get the damn Motorola surfboard (which I own! ) to accept a DNS change, no matter what I tried. Put through modem into bridge mode, disabled wifi, connected via cat5 to a new linksys router via wifi. The router allows for a dns change but still wouldn't allow hub online to update.

Took the damn thing to GF'S and changed dns settings on her fios router (easily), update took in 5 minutes.

Guess I'm going to by a non-Motorola cable modem soon. Any recommendations?

Just get a standard Motorola cable modem (like the SB6121, SB6141, etc) and put your new router behind it. I have the SB6121 with a router, Sophos UTM, Active Directory environment, and a bunch of other stuff behind it and I had no issues updating.
 

MjnMixael

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Aug 17, 2014
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Bleh, it's apparently impossible to get any sort of workaround Harmony integration working... All I want is a way to have SomeDevice(tm) know what activity Harmony is on... then based on that, I can Tasker/IFTTT my way to Wink...

Soooooo if anyone thinks of a way to get Harmony to tell something outside of it's own little universe what it's doing, let me know!
 

haljalika

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Apr 19, 2015
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Off topic in light of the fun this weekend, but anyone have exp with the GoControl security products? Setup sensors and the siren, but when setting up robots (pain as a single robot has to be created for each sensor) the siren can never be set.

An update if anyone else has this issue - it only relates to the android app. With the iOS app the siren can be managed and robots setup to make the alarm go off. No go with android, tried 3 devices (one moto droid, one samsung galaxy s4, and a old galaxy tablet).

Its an app issue, much like deleting shortcuts on android, need to close the reopen the app to get the delete shortcut option....
 

matt-wink

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Apr 17, 2015
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Just wanted to say thank you to all of you for your continued support of Wink. We are truly sorry for all the headaches and time wasting we have caused you over the last couple of days. We are looking forward to getting back to integrating cool new products and features. Top priority is local control. Also, we are working closely with Philips to test their remote API for final full integration to all you to use Phillips with your shortcuts and robots. IFTTT integration for shortcuts rolled out last week. Some other exciting stuff in the coming weeks. We will do everything it takes to keep you as Wink fans.
 

MjnMixael

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Aug 17, 2014
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Local control is going to win Wink a lot of points in a lot of circles, for sure. And the newer Phillips stuff (that I've already been toying with on the testing side of things) is a nice addition.

Not to mention the massive boon that IFTTT has been. Wink now knows, thanks to Life360, when a family member is home or not and takes the appropriate actions... or when I turn my car off at home, Automatic (like Dash) sends IFTTT a note to tell Wink to open the garage... that's just a few of the fun things we can do now!
 

landrick

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Apr 20, 2015
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Hello, all...found this thread during the roller coaster ride of the last few days; how cool to see such a knowledgeable community!

So, while feeling a newbie's fear of somehow breaking the group's etiquette, I was hoping to seek some help on a project I've started:

I had the brilliant idea of trying to automate some of the hallway lighting of my condo building. (These halls have skylights or windows, and burning all the lights all the time seems a waste.) So, I have roughly 30 Cree Connected bulbs I'm trying to control, all in ceiling-mounted fixtures, from a Wink hub in my unit.

The most distant fixture is, no doubt, well beyond the range of my hub, but it's a continuous path of fixtures, with none being further than probably 15 or 20 feet, max, from the next. It's all line-of-sight, although in some cases there's a wooden hallway door in the middle.

At the risk of seeming massively ignorant...my understanding is that the bulbs should network with each other to allow control over an extended range, yes? To get right to the problem: It seems like I can only control bulbs that (I think) are within range of the hub.

(I won't get in the weeds sharing testing details, but a bulb in a portable lamp that has complete control near the hub won't work just a few feet past the most distant fixture that can be controlled.)

I've been trying to isolate any number of variables that could be causing this, but before I go nuts: Well, am I nuts? Am I wrong about how the mesh network functions? Is 20 feet (or a doorway) too much of an obstacle to forming the network?

I know that overall this may really be more of a Cree question, but...was hoping to tap the knowledge of this smart group.

I convinced our condo board just last week to spend about $500 for all this...and am hoping I don't have to go tell them I was an idiot.

Thanks for any comments!
 
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IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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Hello, all...found this thread during the roller coaster ride of the last few days; how cool to see such a knowledgeable community!

So, while feeling a newbie's fear of somehow breaking the group's etiquette, I was hoping to seek some help on a project I've started:

I had the brilliant idea of trying to automate some of the hallway lighting of my condo building. (These halls have skylights or windows, and burning all the lights all the time seems a waste.) So, I have roughly 30 Cree Connected bulbs I'm trying to control, all in ceiling-mounted fixtures, from a Wink hub in my unit.

The most distant fixture is, no doubt, well beyond the range of my hub, but it's a continuous path of fixtures, with none being further than probably 15 or 20 feet, max, from the next. It's all line-of-sight, although in some cases there's a wooden hallway door in the middle.

At the risk of seeming massively ignorant...my understanding is that the bulbs should network with each other to allow control over an extended range, yes? To get right to the problem: It seems like I can only control bulbs that (I think) are within range of the hub.

(I won't get in the weeds sharing testing details, but a bulb in a portable lamp that has complete control near the hub won't work just a few feet past the most distant fixture that can be controlled.)

I've been trying to isolate any number of variables that could be causing this, but before I go nuts: Well, am I nuts? Am I wrong about how the mesh network functions? Is 20 feet (or a doorway) too much of an obstacle to forming the network?

I know that overall this may really be more of a Cree question, but...was hoping to tap the knowledge of this smart group.

I convinced our condo board just last week to spend about $500 for all this...and am hoping I don't have to go tell them I was an idiot.

Thanks for any comments!

You will probably be OK. I have Zigbee devices farther than 20 ft from my hub and they work (or worked) great; I say "worked" because recently I've had a lot of trouble with them (Trippers) and believe I'm going to have to drop another Zigbee device between them and the hub for them to work more consistently. These problems started recently and I believe it is because I'm getting more 2.4 Ghz interference in my garage due to recent wireless additions in the neighborhood.

In your case though, you'll effectively have a repeater every 15-20 ft so I think you'll be fine. One thing I'd think about if I were you (and Kaido and others should chime in) is that rather than using a bunch of connected bulbs, maybe just replace the switches with smart switches.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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I have a possible scenario coming up with a remodeled room and would like some opinions. The room currently has two sconces on one wall controlled by one light switch. I am looking into having two sconces installed on the opposite wall which will be controlled by a separate wall switch - I think it will be two difficult and expensive to connect them all to one switch. However, I'd really like them to be controlled by a single switch. What Wink and SmartThings compatible option do I have in terms of switches? Yes, I could potentially get sconces and put GE Link bulbs in them, but I'd rather solve this with a switch for ease of use for my wife or guests.

Reposting this question in case it got lost. Just looking for ideas. Can a Lutron pico remote control 2 switches? I was thinking I could buy two switches and have the remote switch both on at the same time.
 

trunzoc

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Reposting this question in case it got lost. Just looking for ideas. Can a Lutron pico remote control 2 switches? I was thinking I could buy two switches and have the remote switch both on at the same time.

Picos, Do seem capable of controlling 2 devices at once.

I just checked in the wink app and it DOES allow you to assign 2 Casetas to a single Pico.

Also, I haven't tested it, but I'm pretty sure you can associate 2 Linear WD500s with each other. You can absolutely pair them with WT00 slave, but nothing in the instructions specifically names the slave and seems to imply that you can associate another WD500 if you wanted too.

page 2 association section...
http://www.nortekcontrol.com/pdf/manuals/WD500Z1_manual.pdf
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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Picos, Do seem capable of controlling 2 devices at once.

I just checked in the wink app and it DOES allow you to assign 2 Casetas to a single Pico.

Also, I haven't tested it, but I'm pretty sure you can associate 2 Linear WD500s with each other. You can absolutely pair them with WT00 slave, but nothing in the instructions specifically names the slave and seems to imply that you can associate another WD500 if you wanted too.

page 2 association section...
http://www.nortekcontrol.com/pdf/manuals/WD500Z1_manual.pdf

Great, thanks. That is exactly what I'm looking for!
 

MjnMixael

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Aug 17, 2014
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Pico remotes can control any number of lights at once, and they work independently of the hub once paired to a light or set of lights. Your hub could be our in the garbage and Picos will still work. That's why I chose them.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Sep 22, 2007
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Pico remotes can control any number of lights at once, and they work independently of the hub once paired to a light or set of lights. Your hub could be our in the garbage and Picos will still work. That's why I chose them.

That is EXACTLY what I wanted to hear. If we have this electrical work done, I will definitely buy two of the Caseta switches and have 1 Pico control both switches at once.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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Pico remotes can control any number of lights at once, and they work independently of the hub once paired to a light or set of lights. Your hub could be our in the garbage and Picos will still work. That's why I chose them.

Sorry, but I do have one more question. So we've established that a Pico remote can control two switches simultaneously, so I'll be able to turn on all 4 lights (2 per switch) at once by using the device and it won't depend on the Wink hub. Correct?

My question is this, and I think I probably already know the answer. On the picture below, I am assuming the controls on the switch itself (not the Pico) cannot control 2 separate switches unless you use Wink and Robots. Would that be a correct statement? Is there a way to mount the Pico over the top of the switch instead so you will use Picos as the controls, not the switch controls shown below? I know they make a Pico installation kit which allows you to mount it on the wall, but the Pico itself still has to have a switch to control somewhere. What I'm getting at is that I'll have two switches and I want both to be able to control all 4 lights from the switch panel.

 
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Kaido

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I spent the day switching over, repairing bulbs etc. I then tried to talk my wife into the crazy steps ST wants to dim a group of SmartBulbs. Her response was that this had a very small WAF. And after thinking about it, fighting with it some more, I decided, this sucks.

So, the ST Hub is back in the Amazon box with a return label on it. The only highlight was that for a little bit, my Aeotec Minimote worked great. After discussing with the wife, I repaired nearly all of the bulbs - to the Philips Hue hub. Local control, works instantly and has cloud control if I'm away from home. It closes the much desired link.

Wink of course has relatively poor integration with Hue (so does ST for that matter) so I kept some of the lights, such as the entrance lights and outside lights on Wink so the Trippers can set them off when I open the door.

So while I'm not the biggest fan of Wink's UI, it's far saner than ST's. I get the impression ST is more geared to someone who wants to make everything "automatic". Walk into the room, the lights turn on, your robo-butler starts making your dinner etc. I just like the ability to turn lights on / off / dim from my couch.

Now I need to figure out what I'm going to use the $50 credit for on wink.com. It appears everyone has cleared out the goodies (I wanted the Leviton appliance module). I don't really need any more smart bulb as nearly every bulb in the house is smart at this point.

Speaking of Aeotec, they have a Philips Hue competitor you might be interested in:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37328018&postcount=308
 

JFHughes08088

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Just wanted to say thank you to all of you for your continued support of Wink. We are truly sorry for all the headaches and time wasting we have caused you over the last couple of days. We are looking forward to getting back to integrating cool new products and features. Top priority is local control. Also, we are working closely with Philips to test their remote API for final full integration to all you to use Phillips with your shortcuts and robots. IFTTT integration for shortcuts rolled out last week. Some other exciting stuff in the coming weeks. We will do everything it takes to keep you as Wink fans.

Thanks Matt. Trailblazing requires a few burns along the way. Keep improving the home automation experience and it gets better over time.

One question I do have - What changes did the hub update implement?
 

trunzoc

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Sorry, but I do have one more question. So we've established that a Pico remote can control two switches simultaneously, so I'll be able to turn on all 4 lights (2 per switch) at once by using the device and it won't depend on the Wink hub. Correct?

My question is this, and I think I probably already know the answer. On the picture below, I am assuming the controls on the switch itself (not the Pico) cannot control 2 separate switches unless you use Wink and Robots. Would that be a correct statement? Is there a way to mount the Pico over the top of the switch instead so you will use Picos as the controls, not the switch controls shown below? I know they make a Pico installation kit which allows you to mount it on the wall, but the Pico itself still has to have a switch to control somewhere. What I'm getting at is that I'll have two switches and I want both to be able to control all 4 lights from the switch panel.


I can;t see a way the Pico would be "in front of" the actual switch unless you just bury the switch inside the box.


I'd still check out the WD500s. A pair of them is cheaper than a pair of Lutrons and they are also independent of the hub once associated.

The downside of the WD500s is that you also need to buy a $25 minimote to do the actually associating the first time through. Then you just stash it in a drawer until you need it again (or use it like a regular remote if you want, it has 4 buttons that can control zwave stuff)
 

Yuriman

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Just wanted to say thank you to all of you for your continued support of Wink. We are truly sorry for all the headaches and time wasting we have caused you over the last couple of days. We are looking forward to getting back to integrating cool new products and features. Top priority is local control. Also, we are working closely with Philips to test their remote API for final full integration to all you to use Phillips with your shortcuts and robots. IFTTT integration for shortcuts rolled out last week. Some other exciting stuff in the coming weeks. We will do everything it takes to keep you as Wink fans.

Can you share any plans, or at least ideas on the drawing board, for local control? What can we expect?

Will current hubs be capable of this with a software update, or will there be a V2?
 
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