Sorry, but I do have one more question. So we've established that a Pico remote can control two switches simultaneously, so I'll be able to turn on all 4 lights (2 per switch) at once by using the device and it won't depend on the Wink hub. Correct?
My question is this, and I think I probably already know the answer. On the picture below, I am assuming the controls on the switch itself (not the Pico) cannot control 2 separate switches unless you use Wink and Robots. Would that be a correct statement? Is there a way to mount the Pico over the top of the switch instead so you will use Picos as the controls, not the switch controls shown below? I know they make a Pico installation kit which allows you to mount it on the wall, but the Pico itself still has to have a switch to control somewhere. What I'm getting at is that I'll have two switches and I want both to be able to control all 4 lights from the switch panel.
I think many are waiting to see what STv2 offers first and if it fulfills the promises which have been made so far, I think you will see many people move on. For me, I've gone back and forth several times but for my limited use cases, Wink is adequate. What WILL make me jump is if Wink doesn't implement local control in a timely fashion or it isn't reliable whereas STv2 does; also of concern is device support. Those are really the two major reasons I will jump ship even with my very limited use cases. I have long complained that by trying to excessively dumb-down their offering for "average" consumers, Wink has likely created more problems than they solved and this latest instance is probably a perfect example of that. Let's see if they come through with a utility to let us fix these ourselves.
Also, this is a forum and thread where people are entitled to their opinions. To portray things in Winkland as all picnics, sunshine, and rainbows would be disingenuous and be a huge disservice to our community. That includes calling Wink out on their business practices. They are not a well-run company and I think that is due to the current leadership. Also, it does NOT help your cause when you have loose cannon employees (see: Brian Knopf) making disparaging remarks about customers and saying how the requests for local control "make him angry." Knopf CLEARLY lacks business acumen and forgets who butters his bread. Security doesn't matter if you can't use the system and he clearly could not get that through his thick skull. I hate to see anyone lose his job but if he were my employee, I'd fire him. I understand the level of frustration involved when major outages occur, but he should've been working on the issue and NOT posting on FB especially when several users told him to tone it down.
Hello, all...found this thread during the roller coaster ride of the last few days; how cool to see such a knowledgeable community!
So, while feeling a newbie's fear of somehow breaking the group's etiquette, I was hoping to seek some help on a project I've started:
I had the brilliant idea of trying to automate some of the hallway lighting of my condo building. (These halls have skylights or windows, and burning all the lights all the time seems a waste.) So, I have roughly 30 Cree Connected bulbs I'm trying to control, all in ceiling-mounted fixtures, from a Wink hub in my unit.
The most distant fixture is, no doubt, well beyond the range of my hub, but it's a continuous path of fixtures, with none being further than probably 15 or 20 feet, max, from the next. It's all line-of-sight, although in some cases there's a wooden hallway door in the middle.
At the risk of seeming massively ignorant...my understanding is that the bulbs should network with each other to allow control over an extended range, yes? To get right to the problem: It seems like I can only control bulbs that (I think) are within range of the hub.
(I won't get in the weeds sharing testing details, but a bulb in a portable lamp that has complete control near the hub won't work just a few feet past the most distant fixture that can be controlled.)
I've been trying to isolate any number of variables that could be causing this, but before I go nuts: Well, am I nuts? Am I wrong about how the mesh network functions? Is 20 feet (or a doorway) too much of an obstacle to forming the network?
I know that overall this may really be more of a Cree question, but...was hoping to tap the knowledge of this smart group.
I convinced our condo board just last week to spend about $500 for all this...and am hoping I don't have to go tell them I was an idiot.
Thanks for any comments!
It seems crazy to me that people say the will jump ship to STv2 when it will obviously be a brand new solution with unknown bugs and features. Somebody is always looking for a pot of gold that doesn't exist. STv2 would probably take six months after release to be as stable as stable as the Wink is now. Promises made are often promises broken in the IT world
I can;t see a way the Pico would be "in front of" the actual switch unless you just bury the switch inside the box.
I'd still check out the WD500s. A pair of them is cheaper than a pair of Lutrons and they are also independent of the hub once associated.
The downside of the WD500s is that you also need to buy a $25 minimote to do the actually associating the first time through. Then you just stash it in a drawer until you need it again (or use it like a regular remote if you want, it has 4 buttons that can control zwave stuff)
It seems crazy to me that people say the will jump ship to STv2 when it will obviously be a brand new solution with unknown bugs and features. Somebody is always looking for a pot of gold that doesn't exist. STv2 would probably take six months after release to be as stable as stable as the Wink is now. Promises made are often promises broken in the IT world
Your number 7 is my number one. Or Fibaro. But I want a decent temperature sensor (not a spotter or spotter 2 or spotter 3, etc). It's something I feel is missing in my setup. But I already have Aeotec's minimote so getting that up and running would be great.
I'd like support for a tilt sensor. There are all these overly complicated "Is my garage door open?" sensors. A tilt sensor tapped to the door is way simpler; easy to install and to remove when we move.
IFTTT trigger support (the IF).
I had a Tripper that didn't seem to work either (didn't try the other two) but I've been having lots of issues with it and while I could re-pair it with the hub, it would never change from open to closed. I had a spare Tripper that I replaced it with that seems to work. I'm hoping Wink will still give me a discount so I can buy another set of Trippers, as I want to put them on my gates.
It seems crazy to me that people say the will jump ship to STv2 when it will obviously be a brand new solution with unknown bugs and features. Somebody is always looking for a pot of gold that doesn't exist. STv2 would probably take six months after release to be as stable as stable as the Wink is now. Promises made are often promises broken in the IT world
It's in the app but not on the wink page yet. Wink works with Pella products. Using If you have a Pella Bridge, then Pella makes a Tilt sensor specifically for garage doors that works with wink, if you have the bridge.
Did you replace the battery. I thought one of my trippers was busted, it seems they aren't reporting low battery properly. New battery and it works awesome again.
I never had that issue, but my android app tells me when an update is needed. At the bottom of the app a blue notice shows up. Have you tried going into the hub section of the app?Has anyone else ever had issue with their hubs not updating? My first hub only ever reported as software version 0.0.0. I called support and they were able to push an update to me. One of the questions asked is "have you tried updating?" How can you update? There is no button, no method to check...
Anyway, I had a new hub that I got online after this outage and again it is stuck at 0.0.0, it never updates. I sent an email to support as I don't feel like sitting on hold for 2-3 hours. Got a reply to log out and log back into the wink app... Didn't work. Tried this on an iphone and two android phones, uninstalled/reinstalled app as well.
Going to call tonight and hopefully they can push the update.
I installed Chrome and the Wink app when it was mentioned a week or so ago. The last couple of times I've tried to start it, it just spins and nothing ever happens. Chrome does come up with the warning to disable the developer stuff.
Any ideas?
You will probably be OK. I have Zigbee devices farther than 20 ft from my hub and they work (or worked) great; I say "worked" because recently I've had a lot of trouble with them (Trippers) and believe I'm going to have to drop another Zigbee device between them and the hub for them to work more consistently. These problems started recently and I believe it is because I'm getting more 2.4 Ghz interference in my garage due to recent wireless additions in the neighborhood.
In your case though, you'll effectively have a repeater every 15-20 ft so I think you'll be fine. One thing I'd think about if I were you (and Kaido and others should chime in) is that rather than using a bunch of connected bulbs, maybe just replace the switches with smart switches.
Correct, Picos do not depend on the hub once paired.
There's not really a good way to mount a Pico on top of a switch... But you could easily mount one next to the switch and use a 2-gang wall plate. I've done that in a few cases.
The only way to use an actual Lutron switch to control another Lutron switch is with Wink Robots. Though, when Local control becomes a thing, that may be a good option.
I share your skepticism, I see a lot more dark clouds as opposed to silver linings in STv2. It sounds like there's a lot of moving parts there in it's development. Company acquisitions often cause philosophical differences between parent and child development teams.It seems crazy to me that people say the will jump ship to STv2 when it will obviously be a brand new solution with unknown bugs and features. Somebody is always looking for a pot of gold that doesn't exist. STv2 would probably take six months after release to be as stable as stable as the Wink is now. Promises made are often promises broken in the IT world
Wanted to put this info out there since I haven't seen anyone discussing the GoControl Security Products yet.
That's good to know. But while I've always loved Portland, I don't really want to be "Bridgetown". I already have two of them.
I want better generic Zwave support. That would close a huge gap in their lineup.