The Witcher 2 HANDS DOWN THE BEST LOOKING GAME ON PC TO DATE!

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PUN

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Well that means your CPU limited, the reports out there are indicating the same . I am hoping for a performance review from some well known site.

This is a Ten year old graphics API(DX9) that is dogging out modern cards due to the inefficiencies of DX9. If it was coded DX 11 it would run better on modern cards

?!?!
2630QM is a quadcore sandybridge.
This game is NOT CPU limited as my i7 920 (HD6970)runs at least 30x faster than 2630qm (GT525M).
 
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PUN

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No... actually he has a point. There are many video games that absolutely have to be played and seen in motion in order to really capture all of the technical brilliance. Like he said, a screenshot in this case isn't going to cut it. A video COULD technically show off the games visuals in their entirety, but it would have to be extremely large, encoded losslessly, and at a high framerate (60fps). Youtube compressed garbage won't do it.

I agree.
AvP from 2 years ago was a title that looked amazing on Screenshots. Same goes with Metro2033
 

MemberSince97

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Yeah ,this game is only running my VGA @ 75% load @19x12 on a yorkfield quad core maxed out 3.6, VGA settings at High.

This is a CPU bound inefficient Direct X 9 hacked game so it will run on consoles eventually.

They are hacking the visuals into Direct x9 ,if it was direct X 11 it would be able to multi thread through vga drivers if properly coded, which (no pun intended) would be an increase of about 25% efficiency and frames.

I'm just saying ....

This is a sweet game .
 

alcoholbob

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Ubersampling is insane!! (the performance hit)

Getting 45 fps with it off and 17 fps with it on -_-
 

gorcorps

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Check the benchmarks on anands. Metro is only demanding when Tesselation is enabled. Otherwise still an average looking title.
Heck, even Crysis 2 looks worse than Crysis 1. Stalker? Pleaseeeee.
get ur eyes checked on your next annual physical.

Here is a quote from anand "Kicking things off as always is Crysis: Warhead, still one of the toughest game in our benchmark suite. Even 2 years since the release of the original Crysis, “but can it run Crysis?” is still an important question, and the answer continues to be “no.” While we’re closer than ever, full Enthusiast settings at a playable framerate is still beyond the grasp of a single card." Dec 2010

keep in mind that Warhead runs smoother than Crysis.

You never said warhead until this post. All you said was Crysis 1... That's it. And you also asked for the most demanding, which Metro 2033 is. You didn't say if the visual boost you get from being so demanding is actually worth it, just more demanding.

If you meant Crysis warhead you should have said so.
 

CrystalBay

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Yep, this game is definitely looking good



The Artwork and Textures are AAAA , however the lighting and shadows are only adequate .

This pic is a perfect example of bad lighting .Notice the lantern is behind Gerhalt but his forehead is shining with the light source. This scenario happens to often throughout this game, although sometimes the lighting is perfect.

Again I think this game is the most entertaining I've played since ME2...

It has also been surprisingly bug,crash free , take notice Bethesda.
 

Carfax83

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The Artwork and Textures are AAAA , however the lighting and shadows are only adequate .

This pic is a perfect example of bad lighting .Notice the lantern is behind Gerhalt but his forehead is shining with the light source. This scenario happens to often throughout this game, although sometimes the lighting is perfect. .

I agree, and I think the use of DX9 is mostly responsible for the lighting and shadows being poor in comparison to the other aesthetic features..

If CDPR makes a DX11 patch with tessellation, better lights and shadows, then the Witcher 2 could conceivably edge out Crysis imo..
 

ioni

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I agree, and I think the use of DX9 is mostly responsible for the lighting and shadows being poor in comparison to the other aesthetic features..

Design is most likely the reason for the background lighting illuminating his face. Why would you want the character you're controlling to turn into a silhouette (unless the character was in fact a shadow)? I hate when games do that. From the gameplay videos I've seen, the lighting is stupendous. That or there is another lantern in front of him.
 

Zanovar

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This game is AWESOME!,currently in Flotsam or whatever that place is called,watched a couple of hangings.Im getting 50-60 fps on ultra with lots of settings disabled(some of witch i would of disabled anyway as prefer the real lifeish look to some of the artistic settings).Back to flotsam i go.
 

Carfax83

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Its a great looking game, but its no Crysis.

With a proper DX11 patch, it could edge out Crysis. DX11, if implemented properly, would vastly improve the lighting and shadows. It's those two areas that are the strong points of Crysis compared to the Witcher 2.

Tessellation could improve texture detail even more by adding greater depth and geometry, although this would likely be a minor improvement because the texture quality in the Witcher 2 is already astounding....much better than Crysis.
 

gorcorps

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Its a great looking game, but its no Crysis.

With a proper DX11 patch, it could edge out Crysis. DX11, if implemented properly, would vastly improve the lighting and shadows. It's those two areas that are the strong points of Crysis compared to the Witcher 2.

Tessellation could improve texture detail even more by adding greater depth and geometry, although this would likely be a minor improvement because the texture quality in the Witcher 2 is already astounding....much better than Crysis.

Did I play the wrong game? Did steam load a different game for me when I bought Crysis? I don't get why people still have this game in such high regard. Has anybody booted it up recently with no mods to see how it holds up? Was there a bug that if you picked the highest details it would load something lower?

I'm seriously asking all this because I am definitely NOT seeing graphics in Crysis that still beat every game. I don't know if I'm seriously not looking at the same thing. The Witcher 2 already trounces Crysis from what I've seen. I think there's some serious bias going on here, as I didn't see Crysis until a couple months back when I finally had my PC built so I never saw it when it was brand new and by far the greatest thing out there. I just don't see what everybody else sees I guess.
 

sigurros81

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The Artwork and Textures are AAAA , however the lighting and shadows are only adequate .

This pic is a perfect example of bad lighting .Notice the lantern is behind Gerhalt but his forehead is shining with the light source. This scenario happens to often throughout this game, although sometimes the lighting is perfect.

Again I think this game is the most entertaining I've played since ME2...

It has also been surprisingly bug,crash free , take notice Bethesda.


There could also be a lantern in front of his face that's off camera...but I'll play along and pretend to nod my head and agree.
 

Carfax83

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Did I play the wrong game? Did steam load a different game for me when I bought Crysis? I don't get why people still have this game in such high regard. Has anybody booted it up recently with no mods to see how it holds up? Was there a bug that if you picked the highest details it would load something lower?

Key phrase "with no mods." Who plays vanilla Crysis? Crysis was meant to be modded, and there are lots of great mods out there that not only improve graphical fidelity, but also improve performance as well.....at the same time!

For example, here's some screenshots I took.....and this is actually in the single player campaign......with mods of course:







Crysis still probably holds the overall title of best looking game ever, because the lighting and shadows are excellent, combined with a massive sandbox and great textures.

Metro 2033 is also really great looking, and in fact, exceeds Crysis in terms of lighting, shadows and texture detail. However, Metro 2033 is a corridor shooter for the most part and doesn't have the large playable areas that Crysis does, so is less impressive imo..
 

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I'm seriously asking all this because I am definitely NOT seeing graphics in Crysis that still beat every game. I don't know if I'm seriously not looking at the same thing. The Witcher 2 already trounces Crysis from what I've seen. I think there's some serious bias going on here, as I didn't see Crysis until a couple months back when I finally had my PC built so I never saw it when it was brand new and by far the greatest thing out there. I just don't see what everybody else sees I guess.

Since we're fighting over semantics, I actually think BC Vietnam looks better than Crysis. So I would agree Crysis has feel very quickly from the visual crown. I'm not a big RPG fan except for ME or maybe Deus Ex, but maybe I will try it out.

 

Carfax83

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There could also be a lantern in front of his face that's off camera...but I'll play along and pretend to nod my head and agree.

I re-visited the area and there was indeed a lantern in front of Geralt's face.. Regardless though, the point still stands. Although the lighting and shadow system is very good for DX9, with a DX11 patch, they could be improved considerably and then the Witcher 2 could conceivably rival Crysis.
 
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Nintendesert

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You compare games out of the box vs. out of the box. Not modded and altered vs. out of the box. That's just silliness there. I bought Crysis when the whole dealio was 9.99 and didn't see what the big hardon was for it. It's just a game that stressed systems and people now equate that to it being the best graphically.

I like what I've seen in TW2 more than I did in Crysis.
 

StinkyPinky

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Best thing about Witcher 2 is the textures. They're high res and well detailed. In many ways this game is better looking than Crysis.
 

ioni

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I re-visited the area and there was indeed a lantern in front of Geralt's face.. Regardless though, the point still stands. Although the lighting and shadow system is very good for DX9, with a DX11 patch, they could be improved considerably and then the Witcher 2 could conceivably rival Crysis.

ROFL. You complain the lighting is messed up because his face is lit up with no light source on his face, then find out there is a light source on his face, and someone the lighting system is still messed up? wat?
 

Udgnim

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You compare games out of the box vs. out of the box. Not modded and altered vs. out of the box. That's just silliness there. I bought Crysis when the whole dealio was 9.99 and didn't see what the big hardon was for it. It's just a game that stressed systems and people now equate that to it being the best graphically.

I like what I've seen in TW2 more than I did in Crysis.

I'd think comparing a 3.5 year old modded game to a 2011 just released game is a fair enough comparison or maybe it's just a representation of how limited PC gaming graphics are nowadays due to being tied to the console market. without user mods, graphics engine won't be used nearly as well.

anyways, how you guys like modded GTA 4?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEeyvYwkO-Q&feature=related

found a new modded Crysis video! screen effects kind of start getting way overdone, but it's still damn pretty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shZzYkpl5Nk&feature=player_embedded
 
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