The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

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Carfax83

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I just found out that I missed two side quests (
stranger in a strange land and cave of dreams
) because I didn't kill two miscreants in some village on an island in Skellige

I really love this game, but the quests and sidequests can be so interwoven at times that you may unintentionally fail some if you miss certain steps..
 

escrow4

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The war is the backdrop for the game's story. The game's story isn't about the war. I just wish the game didn't have the quest that
decides the outcome of the war
, it really isn't necessary IMO. They could've achieved the same outcome without Geralt being so directly involved.

I'd take 2 anyday. 3 was so-so at best for me at least. Not enough grit.
 

Artorias

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Jesus Christ this game man, was getting late and wanted to wrap up side quest in Novigrd, next thing you I'm going full Sherlock Holmes and its 4AM.
 

Chaotic0ne

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Those are low res textures. They look decent from a distance, but get up close on them and you can play count-the-pixels. That's the difference between HD and not. HD textures are 2k minimum. And ultra textures should be 4k+ IMO. But unfortunately they had to dumb down Witcher 3 for consoles, and CDPR was too lazy to give PC gamers high res textures. All they need to do is release redkit, so the modders can improve their last gen texture resolutions. I zoomed the camera in on a rock, and it looked like an atari 2600 took a dump on my computer screen. That's last gen.

DAI for example, has considerably better textures than Witcher 3 does. Even though Witcher 3 is better in some other areas like lighting and shaders than DAI is.

DAI maxed out, these textures are HD

http://i.imgur.com/FrgnI7k.jpg

Witcher 3 maxed out:

http://i.imgur.com/z3wDMEG.jpg

The textures, and especially the shrubs look like garbage in Witcher 3. That fern looks like a playstation 1 cardboard cutout. I mean, &^*&!! I could get my 6 year old niece to draw a fern on cardboard and I could cut it out with a pair of scissors, and it would look about as good as Witcher 3's fern.
 
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Anteaus

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I realize this is indirectly related, but I've been watching The Hexen. I'm surprised at how well done it was considering it was a Polish mini-series. It's obvious where CDPR got their character looks from.

Anyways, after watching the mini-series and diving into the book lore i've become increasingly conflicted. I knew that the games took some creative freedom with the lore in order to make games, but it really is amazing how how different Geralt in the game is from the Geralt in the books.

Geralt would never lower himself to doing the type of questing that he ends up doing the majority of the time in the games. He honors his codex. While he isn't against stepping up against humans who disrespect him directly, he generally ignores the rest. In regards to killing monsters, he will only do it when they actively hurt humans and even then only for pay...he won't kill them needlessly. He generally doesn't hunt dragons in any circumstance, because he feels that they have the right to take the occasional cow because humans have stolen their hunting lands. He definitely wouldn't be so involve with politics or take missions that require him to stalk or kill people.

Anyways, this isn't a criticism of the games themselves because they stand on their own. For me personally, it is much harder to like the simplistic, opportunistic version of Geralt as is portrayed in the games. I much prefer the complex person we see in the books and video.
 

Igo69

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Jesus Christ this game man, was getting late and wanted to wrap up side quest in Novigrd, next thing you I'm going full Sherlock Holmes and its 4AM.


Same thing... It was 11pm here and I wanted to do 1 quest before I go to bed because I had to wake up early in the morning next thing I see it was 1 am when I finished a quest.
 

Artorias

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LOL. For those that don't know, this is the British equivalent of the Maury show in America.

 

sxr7171

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I realize this is indirectly related, but I've been watching The Hexen. I'm surprised at how well done it was considering it was a Polish mini-series. It's obvious where CDPR got their character looks from.

Anyways, after watching the mini-series and diving into the book lore i've become increasingly conflicted. I knew that the games took some creative freedom with the lore in order to make games, but it really is amazing how how different Geralt in the game is from the Geralt in the books.

Geralt would never lower himself to doing the type of questing that he ends up doing the majority of the time in the games. He honors his codex. While he isn't against stepping up against humans who disrespect him directly, he generally ignores the rest. In regards to killing monsters, he will only do it when they actively hurt humans and even then only for pay...he won't kill them needlessly. He generally doesn't hunt dragons in any circumstance, because he feels that they have the right to take the occasional cow because humans have stolen their hunting lands. He definitely wouldn't be so involve with politics or take missions that require him to stalk or kill people.

Anyways, this isn't a criticism of the games themselves because they stand on their own. For me personally, it is much harder to like the simplistic, opportunistic version of Geralt as is portrayed in the games. I much prefer the complex person we see in the books and video.

That would make the world's most boring game though.
 

Merad

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I realize this is indirectly related, but I've been watching The Hexen. I'm surprised at how well done it was considering it was a Polish mini-series. It's obvious where CDPR got their character looks from.

Anyways, after watching the mini-series and diving into the book lore i've become increasingly conflicted. I knew that the games took some creative freedom with the lore in order to make games, but it really is amazing how how different Geralt in the game is from the Geralt in the books.

Geralt would never lower himself to doing the type of questing that he ends up doing the majority of the time in the games. He honors his codex. While he isn't against stepping up against humans who disrespect him directly, he generally ignores the rest. In regards to killing monsters, he will only do it when they actively hurt humans and even then only for pay...he won't kill them needlessly. He generally doesn't hunt dragons in any circumstance, because he feels that they have the right to take the occasional cow because humans have stolen their hunting lands. He definitely wouldn't be so involve with politics or take missions that require him to stalk or kill people.

Anyways, this isn't a criticism of the games themselves because they stand on their own. For me personally, it is much harder to like the simplistic, opportunistic version of Geralt as is portrayed in the games. I much prefer the complex person we see in the books and video.

I haven't finished the books (at the end of BoE) but from what I've read so far I think CDPR did a pretty good job of adapting the existing universe. By starting their series with an amnesiac Geralt, they have an almost clean slate to work with. gameGeralt does indeed get asked to do some pretty trivial tasks that bookGeralt would probably laugh at, but the player has the option to accept or reject them depending on how they want to play the character. The first game even focuses quite a bit on figuring out who "you" are through the decisions that you make in quests. Perfect example... do all "monsters" deserve to die is addressed directly in a side quest of the first game, and the main quest of the second game.
 

Gryz

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That would make the world's most boring game though.
Not necessarily.

I played the first game back in 2007. I got half-way through. My performance sunk when I entered the Trade Quarter in Vizima (Chapter 3). So I stopped.

I later read the stories from the first 2 books. That changed my view on Geralt and the game. I suddenly realized why Geralt had to do his meditation in the game, before every big fight. How the potions worked. What Geralt was actually doing, what it was like to be a witcher. I finally finished TW1 last winter, in anticipation of TW3. I loved it. (I also played TW2, 2 or 3 years ago, but tbh, I can't remember much of it. I like TW1 more than TW2).

One of the main themes in the Witcher games is that you are often confronted with situation where you have to make a choice. You can pick an option where you are nice and friendly, or an option where you are a dick. But then later in the game, you realize that trying to be friendly can be just as bad as being a dick. In fact, I think that in the games, no matter what you do, things always end badly. Always.

I don't like that.
I'd like to have a real option to not chose. To try and stay neutral. Most of the time you don't get that option. You have to chose. E.g. there is no option to drop a quest, once you picked it up. I don't like that. In all quests, once you make a choice, you can't undo it. I realize that will be hard to implement in game (without bugs). But it would be nice.

I assume most of you played Skyrim. In Skyrim I did the Dark Brotherhood questline. You get the option to join the Dark Brotherhood, or not. If you don't I think you have to fight them. I joined the Dark Brotherhood. But after a few quests, I knew I made the wrong choice. Even though it's just a game, I wasn't gonna slaughter innocent farmers, etc. So I used the console to remove the "unkillability" of the DB NPCs. And I slaughtered them all. Then I used the console to remove the remaining DB quests. It wasn't in the game, but I could do it. I made the wrong choice, I realized that, I corrected myself.

I wish we could do something like that in The Witcher 3 as well. Let me change my mind. Let me kill my questgiver. Or let me walk away. Let me forget about quests.

As a result, we should be able to play a Geralt that is a lot less important. A true witcher. One that doesn't interfere in politics. That doesn't kill dragons. A witcher that helps the common folks. A simple guy. I would like that. I would like that more than playing a witcher who protects kings, who frees countries, who makes history.

World of Warcraft made a similar mistake. In the first years we are just regular adventurers who travel around Azeroth, who kill monsters, have adventures, try to make a little gold. But nowadays, you are the commander of you own army, you have followers, you have a garrison. The leaders of the Horde and Alliance come to the player for advice. Not fun. I'd play a different game if I wanted that. (I don't play WoW anymore. ))

Role playing doesn't mean you have to slay dragons and protect kings. Just walking through a forest, fighting wolves and an occasional drowner could be a great game.
 

Chaotic0ne

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CDPR was sneaky with patch 1.08. I just installed it earlier and I noticed I took a FPS hit on my R9 390. It appears that they raised the tessellation, just for parity for Nvidia, because they know AMD GPUs aren't as good at tessellation. Especially considering this is an Nvidia game, and AMD cards were whipping Nvidia in Witcher 3 benchmarks in several price/performance ranges. I capped the tessellation to x32 in CCC and I got a 15FPS boost. It must have been something crazy like x256-x512 or more by default, because even capped at x64 which is the highest it'll go in CCC I gained about 12fps. A big enough boost to counter hairworks. My FPS with full ultra + all hairworks with x32 capped tessellation is better than no hairworks with Witcher 3's default tessellation. I'm not a fanboy, but I think its BS when they do this to appease one company while screwing PC owners who aren't using their favored company's products. CDPR has pissed me off. FYI I got a standard bench I run, which I posted in another topic, and its not placebo, I got a pretty hard FPS hit with 1.08 over 1.07, its a fact. I did multiple tests to make sure I wasn't tripping, or there were no outside factors causing the decreased performance. The FPS increase was so massive that spots that were in the 60 range in 1.07 sometimes dipped into the 45 range in 1.08. That's ridiculous! Also I'm getting load screens running around Novigrad in 1.08 when that never happened in previous patches.
 
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cmdrdredd

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CDPR was sneaky with patch 1.08. I just installed it earlier and I noticed I took a FPS hit on my R9 390. It appears that they raised the tessellation, just for parity for Nvidia, because they know AMD GPUs aren't as good at tessellation. Especially considering this is an Nvidia game, and AMD cards were whipping Nvidia in Witcher 3 benchmarks in several price/performance ranges. I capped the tessellation to x32 in CCC and I got a 15FPS boost. It must have been something crazy like x256-x512 or more by default, because even capped at x64 which is the highest it'll go in CCC I gained about 12fps. A big enough boost to counter hairworks. My FPS with full ultra + all hairworks with x32 capped tessellation is better than no hairworks with Witcher 3's default tessellation. I'm not a fanboy, but I think its BS when they do this to appease one company while screwing PC owners who aren't using their favored company's products. CDPR has pissed me off. FYI I got a standard bench I run, which I posted in another topic, and its not placebo, I got a pretty hard FPS hit with 1.08 over 1.07, its a fact. I did multiple tests to make sure I wasn't tripping, or there were no outside factors causing the decreased performance. The FPS increase was so massive that spots that were in the 60 range in 1.07 sometimes dipped into the 45 range in 1.08. That's ridiculous! Also I'm getting load screens running around Novigrad in 1.08 when that never happened in previous patches.

Yeah it's all a conspiracy and they didn't increase any other details or tweak anything else that could have caused it.
 

artemicion

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Those are low res textures. They look decent from a distance, but get up close on them and you can play count-the-pixels. That's the difference between HD and not. HD textures are 2k minimum. And ultra textures should be 4k+ IMO. But unfortunately they had to dumb down Witcher 3 for consoles, and CDPR was too lazy to give PC gamers high res textures. All they need to do is release redkit, so the modders can improve their last gen texture resolutions. I zoomed the camera in on a rock, and it looked like an atari 2600 took a dump on my computer screen. That's last gen.

DAI for example, has considerably better textures than Witcher 3 does. Even though Witcher 3 is better in some other areas like lighting and shaders than DAI is.

DAI maxed out, these textures are HD

http://i.imgur.com/FrgnI7k.jpg

Witcher 3 maxed out:

http://i.imgur.com/z3wDMEG.jpg

The textures, and especially the shrubs look like garbage in Witcher 3. That fern looks like a playstation 1 cardboard cutout. I mean, &^*&!! I could get my 6 year old niece to draw a fern on cardboard and I could cut it out with a pair of scissors, and it would look about as good as Witcher 3's fern.

Um, you realize that you are comparing a zoomed out perspective of foliage in DAI with zoomed in perspective of foliage in Witcher 3? Try giving us two screen shots from the same perspective.

Also, who the *(@%* stares at zoomed in foliage in either game? You're supposed to be fighting monsters, not looking for ants on leaves. I'd be surprised if either game provided high resolution textures of objects at that zoom level.
 

Annisman*

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So guys, I've had this game since release (free copy from buying TitanX) but haven't installed it yet, is it time to play it ? Or do I wait longer for more patches/DLC/Ultimate edition ???
 

Midwayman

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So guys, I've had this game since release (free copy from buying TitanX) but haven't installed it yet, is it time to play it ? Or do I wait longer for more patches/DLC/Ultimate edition ???

There has already been a ton of stuff rolled into patches. I don't see any reason to wait.
 

Dahak

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Been out of the loop for a bit, but apparently the final patch that adds NG+ has been released
 

alcoholbob

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Not necessarily.

I played the first game back in 2007. I got half-way through. My performance sunk when I entered the Trade Quarter in Vizima (Chapter 3). So I stopped.

I later read the stories from the first 2 books. That changed my view on Geralt and the game. I suddenly realized why Geralt had to do his meditation in the game, before every big fight. How the potions worked. What Geralt was actually doing, what it was like to be a witcher. I finally finished TW1 last winter, in anticipation of TW3. I loved it. (I also played TW2, 2 or 3 years ago, but tbh, I can't remember much of it. I like TW1 more than TW2).

One of the main themes in the Witcher games is that you are often confronted with situation where you have to make a choice. You can pick an option where you are nice and friendly, or an option where you are a dick. But then later in the game, you realize that trying to be friendly can be just as bad as being a dick. In fact, I think that in the games, no matter what you do, things always end badly. Always.

I don't like that.
I'd like to have a real option to not chose. To try and stay neutral. Most of the time you don't get that option. You have to chose. E.g. there is no option to drop a quest, once you picked it up. I don't like that. In all quests, once you make a choice, you can't undo it. I realize that will be hard to implement in game (without bugs). But it would be nice.

I assume most of you played Skyrim. In Skyrim I did the Dark Brotherhood questline. You get the option to join the Dark Brotherhood, or not. If you don't I think you have to fight them. I joined the Dark Brotherhood. But after a few quests, I knew I made the wrong choice. Even though it's just a game, I wasn't gonna slaughter innocent farmers, etc. So I used the console to remove the "unkillability" of the DB NPCs. And I slaughtered them all. Then I used the console to remove the remaining DB quests. It wasn't in the game, but I could do it. I made the wrong choice, I realized that, I corrected myself.

I wish we could do something like that in The Witcher 3 as well. Let me change my mind. Let me kill my questgiver. Or let me walk away. Let me forget about quests.

As a result, we should be able to play a Geralt that is a lot less important. A true witcher. One that doesn't interfere in politics. That doesn't kill dragons. A witcher that helps the common folks. A simple guy. I would like that. I would like that more than playing a witcher who protects kings, who frees countries, who makes history.

World of Warcraft made a similar mistake. In the first years we are just regular adventurers who travel around Azeroth, who kill monsters, have adventures, try to make a little gold. But nowadays, you are the commander of you own army, you have followers, you have a garrison. The leaders of the Horde and Alliance come to the player for advice. Not fun. I'd play a different game if I wanted that. (I don't play WoW anymore. ))

Role playing doesn't mean you have to slay dragons and protect kings. Just walking through a forest, fighting wolves and an occasional drowner could be a great game.

This is why I still do runs of the old Infinity Engine games like Baldurs Gate 1/2. Don't like your quest giver? Slaughter him! :-D (plus ensuing fight with the guards, who aren't invincible)
 
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Chaotic0ne

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Um, you realize that you are comparing a zoomed out perspective of foliage in DAI with zoomed in perspective of foliage in Witcher 3? Try giving us two screen shots from the same perspective.

Also, who the *(@%* stares at zoomed in foliage in either game? You're supposed to be fighting monsters, not looking for ants on leaves. I'd be surprised if either game provided high resolution textures of objects at that zoom level.

Uh? Compare one of the shrubs in the Witcher 3 SC that's a similar distance away as the DAI SC? Or check it out for yourself and see that DAI has better quality grass/leaves/shrubs? The lighting and shaders is better in Witcher 3, and if DAI had Witcher 3's lighting and shaders it would look considerably better.

And you'll frequently get close ups on branches/shrubs just by moving around in the game. I'm not playing Witcher 3 to find 8 bit Mario jumping around on a branch.

According to you, texture resolution only has to look good from a distance. That's a last gen mindset. Its time to quit being a hipster and understand what's substandard for 2015. Sub 2k textures is a joke in 2015 for AAA games running maximum settings. I can give a pass to an old school themed game like Pillars of Eternity, but to a game that's supposedly pushing boundaries, I'm not all that impressed with the graphics. Better looking graphics/textures in an open world game is important for immersion. I don't want to play count-the-pixels from any view point. I got plenty of Vram for better textures that's going unused in most games. Modded Skyrim textures and meshes from 2011-2012 look better than what they're putting in AAA games in 2015. That's laughable. Hilarious.

TL;DR - The textures for "maximum" settings in Witcher 3 are a joke and CDPR needs to release a high res texture pack.

Yeah it's all a conspiracy and they didn't increase any other details or tweak anything else that could have caused it.

Logic says if I cap the tessellation and see enormous FPS gains, that means tessellation was the cause. No reason to overthink this. My CPU usage increased a little with 1.08 as well, so I get more noticeable dips in CPU intensive areas. But the dips I believe are from tessellation don't coincide with CPU usage, so the two are separate issues. I5 2500k @ 4.2ghz is already borderline bottleneck in W3, and whatever 1.08 did just made it worse. I didn't expect games would be bottlenecking an OC'd I5 2500k for another year or 2 at least. DAI is the same deal, mantle runs better for me because DX11 = CPU bottleneck. DAI bottlenecks so hard in spots that my FPS dips to 35fps. Turn mantle on, go through the same area and its pegged at 60fps with the same settings.
 
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alcoholbob

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Played around with console commands. As I had predicted a couple months ago, the Negotiator would be the Best In Slot silver sword at level 70. The 16% crit chance affix causes insane damage scaling, plus armor penetration makes it great for Wild Hunt. I believe blood sword is potentially the second highest dps sword.
 
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XiandreX

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Been out of the loop for a bit, but apparently the final patch that adds NG+ has been released

That is awesome... though I might take a break, around 150+ hours in and level 30, close to the end, have all witcher armour made.
 

Eric1987

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Um, you realize that you are comparing a zoomed out perspective of foliage in DAI with zoomed in perspective of foliage in Witcher 3? Try giving us two screen shots from the same perspective.

Also, who the *(@%* stares at zoomed in foliage in either game? You're supposed to be fighting monsters, not looking for ants on leaves. I'd be surprised if either game provided high resolution textures of objects at that zoom level.

QFT. And I still think witcher 3 looks better. That is a horribly compressed 4k screen shot so it doesn't look as good. Looks WAY better in person.
 
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