the witcher sucks

[HeXen]

I can't believe some people are complaining about combat,its not hard guys to fight or dodge .

some gamers cannot adapt to change from what they got themselves comfortable with.

 

[Mem]

some gamers cannot adapt to change from what they got themselves comfortable with.

Sometimes a change is good and makes it more interesting,personally worst thing I hate are crashes ie lack of stability and bugs that ruin gameplay,ie Gothic 3 before all the patches,I had to restart the game from beginning just so I could finished it(yes G3 is a good game with all the community patches if you are wondering).

 

[Udgnim]

I can't believe some people are complaining about combat,its not hard guys to fight or dodge ,its not pure hack and slash like Titan's Quest etc remember you do have combat magic as well which was good....

my issue with the combat system is that it is too simple and thus becomes very repetitive.

 

[Dumac]

my issue with the combat system is that it is too simple and thus becomes very repetitive.

Anyone who denies that the combat system is lacking and mediocre at best is blind.

click-click-click does not make a good combat system, even when the clicks are timed

this is the one thing I hope they improve on in The Witcher 2

 

[Mem]

my issue with the combat system is that it is too simple and thus becomes very repetitive.

That's the case with nearly all RPGs especially as melee fighter so I don't see any reason to complain about Witcher,going mage in RPGs makes it more interesting since as a caster you are not doing the usual hack and slash,at least with The Witcher you have different weapons for different mobs and different attacks ie quick etc plus magic ,you want simple combat look at Oblivion,Morrowind,DA to name a few.

What I'm saying is you won't find a complex combat system in RPG games nowadays.

 

[Dumac]

That's the case with nearly all RPGs especially as melee fighter so I don't see any reason to complain about Witcher,going mage in RPGs makes it more interesting since as a caster since you are not doing the usual hack and slash.

What I'm saying is you won't find a complex combat system in RPG games nowadays.

Titan quest is more complex
DA:O is more complex
ME2 is more complex
Demons Souls is more complex

All of these games have better combat than the withcer. I can't think of many other recent RPGs, but I bet they have better combat than the Witcher.

 

[HeXen]

my issue with the combat system is that it is too simple and thus becomes very repetitive.

so did Oblivion, TW's...well a lot of games actually.

 

[Mem]

Titan quest is more complex
DA:O is more complex
ME2 is more complex
Demons Souls is more complex

All of these games have better combat than the withcer. I can't think of many other recent RPGs, but I bet they have better combat than the Witcher.

lol TQ is simple hack and slash,ME2 is not complex I have finished the game 3 times through,DA I have played 3 times as well and again combat is simple not complex,no comment on DS since not played it,even if combat is more complex it does not mean its a better game,its all relative ie gameplay,storyline etc... many parts make a good game.
Btw I'm old school gamer from 80s so know what complex is .

 

[Dumac]

lol TQ is simple hack and slash,ME2 is not complex I have finished the game 3 times through,DA I have played 3 times as well and again combat is simple not complex,no comment on DS since not played it,even if combat is more complex it does not mean its a better game,its all relative ie gameplay,storyline etc... many parts make a good game.
Btw I'm old school gamer from 80s so know what complex is .

I love how people say that as if it means anything. Whoop de doo, so am I? Aren't we special? No? Okay then...why don't you type in a way appropriate for your age? "Old school gamer"...sheesh you are pathetic

TQ offers refined hack and slash, which the Witcher does not. The variety of abilities, playstyles, etc in TQ make for better combat. In the Witcher, you play the same pretty much no matter what you are doing, which is very repetitive. Even specializing in melee vs spells makes very little different. The different styles make not different. All you do is stand there and click, letting your style do everything else. In TQ every specialization plays different, and the player has to put more thought into combat than running up and clicking.

ME2, having FPS elements, offers decent combat as well. With multiple classes, playstyles, a cover system, etc, I don't see you can disagree that it is more involved than the Witcher. You finished the games three times through? Oh that must somehow make your opinion valid. Oh it doesn't? Okay.

DA:O makes you tackle each situation differently. You have to put at least a little thought into what you are doing, otherwise you will die terribly.

Again, simply saying "combat is simple not complex" for every game doesn't make it true. But honestly, this is probably a waste of time since you don't see the difference between the Witcher's combat and the combat of other RPGs. Even reviewers who LIKED the Witcher noted the combat was clunky and uninspiring.

And yes, better combat DOES MAKE A BETTER GAME. It isn't the only aspect to consider - like I said, I loved The Witcher despite the terrible combat. However, combat is big part of a game, and should be critiqued as such.

 

[Mem]

I love how people say that as if it means anything. Whoop de doo, so am I? Aren't we special? No? Okay then...why don't you type in a way appropriate for your age? "Old school gamer"...sheesh you are pathetic

TQ offers refined hack and slash, which the Witcher does not. The variety of abilities, playstyles, etc in TQ make for better combat. In the Witcher, you play the same pretty much no matter what you are doing, which is very repetitive. Even specializing in melee vs spells makes very little different. The different styles make not different. All you do is stand there and click, letting your style do everything else. In TQ every specialization plays different, and the player has to put more thought into combat than running up and clicking.

ME2, having FPS elements, offers decent combat as well. With multiple classes, playstyles, a cover system, etc, I don't see you can disagree that it is more involved than the Witcher. You finished the games three times through? Oh that must somehow make your opinion valid. Oh it doesn't? Okay.

DA:O makes you tackle each situation differently. You have to put at least a little thought into what you are doing, otherwise you will die terribly.

Again, simply saying "combat is simple not complex" for every game doesn't make it true. But honestly, this is probably a waste of time since you don't see the difference between the Witcher's combat and the combat of other RPGs. Even reviewers who LIKED the Witcher noted the combat was clunky and uninspiring.

And yes, better combat DOES MAKE A BETTER GAME. It isn't the only aspect to consider - like I said, I loved The Witcher despite the terrible combat. However, combat is big part of a game, and should be critiqued as such.

I suggest you stop with personal attacks, its people like you that bring the forums down, go and read the forums rules,throwing insults at anytime and especially over xmas period,there is no excuse for that.

 

[Dumac]

I suggest you stop with personal attacks, its people like you that bring the forums down, go and read the forums rules,throwing insults at anytime and especially over xmas period,there is no excuse for that.

You insulted me as well

Look at this personal attack:

Btw I'm old school gamer from 80s so know what complex is

Dear god the implications of that personal attack are so damaging. Imagine if someone who wasn't a 80s gamer, perhaps a 90s gamer, read that? Imagine how little and small that would make them feel! Why would you do something so mean, and during Christmas time too???

And then there is this terrible threat

The next person that says its bad I will shoot him personally and hand him a console for a 5 year old

Threatening people with violence now? How shameful. This is a time of joy, not anger! What if the same 90's gamer didn't like the Witcher. You would shoot a kid?! People like you bring the forums down. Go read the rules.

Spoiler

I also liked your lack of any attempt to argue, at all

 

[Mem]

You insulted me as well

Look at this personal attack:



[/B]Dear god the implications of that personal attack are so damaging. Imagine if someone who wasn't a 80s gamer, perhaps a 90s gamer, read that? Imagine how little and small that would make them feel! Why would you do something so mean, and during Christmas time too???

And then there is this terrible threat



Threatening people with violence now? How shameful. This is a time of joy, not anger! What if the same 90's gamer didn't like the Witcher. You would shoot a kid?! People like you bring the forums down. Go read the rules.

Spoiler

I also liked your lack of any attempt to argue, at all

No I did not ,did you see those winks?...first one was a joke in general ,last one I was referring to my many years of gaming both as a gamer and beta games tester and its not an insult so ask any member here,infact bring a MOD in to sort it out, I have nothing to hide have you?

Infact I thought we was having a friendly discussion until you started that last insult.

I'll will only reply if you keep it civilized and on topic.

 

[Dumac]

No I did not ,did you see those winks?...first one was a joke in general ,last one I was referring to my many years of gaming both as a gamer and beta games tester and its not an insult so ask any member here,infact bring a MOD in to sort it out, I have nothing to hide have you?

Infact I thought we was having a friendly discussion until you started that last insult.

I'll will only reply if you keep it civilized and on topic.

Don't pretend like your comments weren't a thinly veiled attempt to act superior. In both, you imply that anyone who finds any flaw in the Witcher must be some young kid who doesn't know any better, which is far from the truth. You are just too blind to see it.

You really need to get off your high horse, as you don't deserve to be up there.

I was being friendly. I was just replying in the same way they you were posting

 

[Mem]

Don't pretend like your comments weren't a thinly veiled attempt to act superior. In both, you imply that anyone who finds any flaw in the Witcher must be some young kid who doesn't know any better, which is far from the truth. You are just too blind to see it.

You really need to get off your high horse, as you don't deserve to be up there.

I was being friendly. I was just replying in the same way they you were posting

I tell you what,don't bother replying to any of my posts,I'll talk to the other cilivilized members here.

To the other members here I'll say it again The Witcher is not a bad game but I understand there is no perfect game for everyone ,like I already stated we all have different opinions.

Nowadays games are made simple and anybody thats been around a few years knows what I'm talking about.

I think game developers do it that way today for a reason ie make it easy for all types gamers to play games etc...I'm not saying its right but thats what I think.

 

[Dumac]

I'll will only reply if you keep it civilized and on topic.

Why did you lie to me?

I tell you what,don't bother replying to any of my posts,I'll talk to the other cilivilized members here.

Sorry, but I don't think it is polite to tell me what to do

To the other members here I'll say it again The Witcher is not a bad game but I understand there is no perfect game for everyone ,like I already stated we all have different opinions.

I like the Witcher probably as much as you do. Doesn't change that the combat system is the weakest point in the game, and needs improvement

Nowadays games are made simple

Not true There are plenty of complex games. Hell, even Witcher has some semi-complex parts (for example, plot), but the combat is just too simple and uninspired to be considered acceptable

and anybody thats been around a few years knows what I'm talking about.

Again, why do you have to be so mean? I've been gaming on all platforms for a long time, but someone who hasn't would no doubt feel belittled by your posts. Just because you are older and have been gaming longer than others doesn't make your opinion any more valid! You should remember that, and stop acting superior to others with your insults

I think game developers do it that way today for a reason ie make it easy for all types gamers to play games etc...I'm not saying its right but thats what I think.

In the very beginning, games were very simple, but difficult. Then the complexity was raised, but games still remained difficult. Now, it isn't the complexity that is being scaled back. Games are still complex. However, they have became very easy, in order to attract a more "casual" crowd.

This is why my parents, who were awesome at games like Mario and Pacman, can't play today's games.

Just my opinion

 

[Mem]

I love the Witcher, NWN, NWN2, DA:O, going to play Witcher2, DA2 for sure. Also love KOTOR, ME too. I have great patience for games with a decent story

I agree,however some RPG games had really short storylines ie Oblivion.

You do need time to play RPGs,mind you nowadays they are shorter then the old days,you remember daggerfall?..I never finished that and played it for ages.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

There has to be a limit to this though, some games do just absolutely suck.

Also it's not flamebait, everyone gauges their opinion to some degree off of public perception of a product. It's the reason review sites still even exist, things like, oh I don't know, Anandtech.

Not flamebait, eh? Look at the posts above this one. The only reason for making this thread is because of the generally high reviews which brings some degree of expectations, and when they are not met you get people like spaceman who feel as though they need to warn the whole world by stating that the game flat out sucks. If it had poor reviews his expectations would've been low and thus this thread wouldn't exist. He could have easily titled the topic "hate the witcher" then give reasons why, which he doesn't. It's derogatory tone invites insults.

Anandtech deals in hardware which is almost completely objective in nature. Games have a large degree of objectivity, but are mostly subjective. You don't see respected gaming sites like IGN or Gamespot reviewing games like this:

so if ur thinking about buying it
dont
it just aint fun
it blows.
thats all
thx

Very insightful. I should consult spaceman before all future purchases.

 

[spaceman]

um yeah
lol
no u had on the one hand this prevailing opinion that thw witcher was some awesome rpg
so i bought it
it was much less than awesome..in fact it was terrible(to me)
so i shared
people got butthurt
many agreed
idc who consults what why
and suppsoing i adhere to some silly metric for post criteria for you to feel good is a real screamer

 

[Dumac]

um yeah
lol
no u had on the one hand this prevailing opinion that thw witcher was some awesome rpg
so i bought it
it was much less than awesome..in fact it was terrible(to me)
so i shared
people got butthurt
many agreed
idc who consults what why
and suppsoing i adhere to some silly metric for post criteria for you to feel good is a real screamer

ily spaceman
even when you make me butthurt

 

[spaceman]

<3 ty
it wasnt my intention to butthurt anyone
im sure those who enjoy it are sincere
as am I

 

[Patrick Wolf]

no worries
it's just that when you post like this
it kinda
sorta
makes you look like a douche
difficult to take anything you say seriously
just sayin
<3

 

[spaceman]

thats one opinion
ok great!

 

[Dumac]

no worries
it's just that when you post like this
it kinda
sorta
makes you look like a douche
difficult to take anything you say seriously
just sayin
<3

SHHH YOU ARE GONNA MAKE MEM CRY!

Don't be hateful

no worries
it's just that when you post like this
it kinda
sorta
makes you look like a douche
difficult to take anything you say seriously
just sayin
<3

there, that is better

 

[zebrax2]

The game in my opinion is pretty good although i haven't finished it yet because my bother managed to overwrite all my saves.

The combat for me is similar to most hack n slash game the main differentiating factor being that the role of equipment is severely downplayed. Add to that the fact that sub weapon (daggers, axe and etc.) don't really have a purpose except for maybe the torch. This does limit the gameplay variety a lot although the addition of alchemy helps a little bit.

As some of the posters said "Different strokes for different folks"

 

[Borealis7]

as an avid RPG fan, who played through BG1-2+exps,IWD1-2,NWN1-2+exps,M&M6-7-8,Morrowind,Oblivion,FO2-3,VtM:R, and so many more;
you cant say i dont have an attention span either, i depleted 100&#37; of all planets in all galaxies in ME2, i can play through an entire CIV game in one day, play huge HoMM3 maps, played countless of TBS RPGs.

I must say, The Witcher is just bad.

i killed the cockatrice in the sewers, quit, uninstalled.