the witcher sucks

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AnonymouseUser

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If you liked Arx Fatalis you might want to check out Might and Magic: Dark Messiah...its more action oriented than Arx Fatalis but its made by the same company and clearly was inspired by Arx Fatalis.

Looking at some youtube videos I think I just might like this game. Thanks for the rec.
 

DefDC

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Aug 28, 2003
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Just to add, if you like RPGs and have the patience to get though the first 2 hours, you'll probably love this game.

For me, started slow... But then really grew on me. I give it an 8. Anxiously awaiting Witcher 2.
 

emilyek

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Mar 1, 2005
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witcher is best rpg
in a long time one
of the best in last
ten years
combat can be repetitve
but the story is best and
most mature in a decade
so if u like XXXTREME popamole
games
you should stick to ur
xbawx cover-shooter 'RPGs'
because u wont leik it
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Now you're just grasping. I've demanded nothing of anyone and you know it. I'm only trying to help you be less of a douche. And I apologize for trolling, just couldn't resist the bait. You only made this thread to find people who agree with you so your hatred for this highly rated game could be justified. Which is even more evident by posting lame youtube videos and linking to a couple negative reviews you probably had to dig for. You want to discuss The Witcher? Fine. It's great and here's hundreds of people that agree. And to them $5 for it is a steal.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/thewitcherenhancededition/players.html?tag=scoresummary;user-score



See now you could learn a lot from Shamus. See how he clearly defines his opinion without resorting to blanket statements like "sucks" "boring" "waste of time". And he doesn't even mention the combat you seem so hung up on. While I disagree with him, I applaud the criticism as it's well-defined and written as purely subjective.

thats all
thx


i like his first disclaimer, and lol at the caption

Geralt really s a creepy, alienating dude, his forced sexual prowess in the game is completely anathema to who he is and , well...logic. And the sex card business is, indeed, quite juvenile. nothing "mature" about it.

I really like the darkness of the game, the decision making, investigative nature of the story. There is a lot that I really really like about the Witcher, but it still became far too tedious and cumbersome for me.
 

emilyek

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i like his first disclaimer, and lol at the caption

Geralt really s a creepy, alienating dude, his forced sexual prowess in the game is completely anathema to who he is and , well...logic. And the sex card business is, indeed, quite juvenile. nothing "mature" about it.

I really like the darkness of the game, the decision making, investigative nature of the story. There is a lot that I really really like about the Witcher, but it still became far too tedious and cumbersome for me.

Geralt is weird and physically fit and mysterious and a kind of celebrity-- the ladies love that stuff. Plus, he's infertile, making some of them even more prone to throw themselves at him. That's the logic.

Also, PC games have a pedigree of solitary nerdy males channeling their sexual energies into them. So as a kind of vicarious fantasy, Geralt's man-whore-ness is totally apropos.

Also apropos are boobies. I like boobies, and I like looking at them, and that includes tastefully done faux-oil paintings of them. I have no shame in saying so, or in thinking that a little tongue-in-cheek tasteful raunch is good for an entertainment medium for males past puberty. Moreover, the male fan-service stuff is masterfully balanced against the Alvin Stepfather plot-- which is the antithesis to gratuitious boobie-indulging-- and gives real weight and heft to that aspect of the plot, which is really what the Witcher is about.
 

Arglebargle

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Dec 2, 2006
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The OP didn't do his research, bought a game whose game style he didn't like, and feels the need to hollar and jump up and down over it. Took the OP 4 or 5 posts to actually identify what he disliked about the game. Even the earliest of reviews were pretty clear about how the game mechanics worked, iirc. Why not actually pay attention? I check out games all the time that way, and find ones that are highly rated, but are obviously not the type I like.

Spaceman Spiff should try doing the same.
 

Dumac

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Dec 31, 2005
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Geralt really s a creepy, alienating dude, his forced sexual prowess in the game is completely anathema to who he is and , well...logic. And the sex card business is, indeed, quite juvenile. nothing "mature" about it.

In reponse to this I quote:

Geralt is weird and physically fit and mysterious and a kind of celebrity-- the ladies love that stuff. Plus, he's infertile, making some of them even more prone to throw themselves at him. That's the logic.

This, plus the fact that Geralt's witcher training actually makes his body able to give women extreme pleasure. In the books, it is mentioned that Geralt's body almost hums, and by merely touching a woman he shoots shocks of pleasure through their body.

It is funny that you are so focused on Geralt being a manwhore, because a major component of the game is Geralt trying to see if he can settle down and start a "family" as he is becoming tired of his lifestyle. This is the overriding theme of the last three acts.

About the sex cards, yes, they are juvenile, but they are fun. It is kind of like pokemon
 

Dumac

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Dec 31, 2005
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Witcher was a great game. Combat was much more complex than just click click click. Using the right spells at the right time was critical, as was switching weapons and stances. Going for the top combo could also be an awful idea (Blutzuegers, for example) because you'd be killed in the process. Dodging and rolling were critical as well. Honestly, I don't know what game people say they were playing when they say it was boring combat.

Sure, you switch stances and swords, but they are all functionally the same so it doesn't matter. From the player's perspective, the combat is the same in steel/group as silver/strong, so it really doesn't add anything to the combat.

"Oh, a group of enemies? Make sure I click while in group mode."

The combat was boring (this is on the hardest difficulty) and tedious.
 

zinfamous

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In reponse to this I quote:



This, plus the fact that Geralt's witcher training actually makes his body able to give women extreme pleasure. In the books, it is mentioned that Geralt's body almost hums, and by merely touching a woman he shoots shocks of pleasure through their body.

It is funny that you are so focused on Geralt being a manwhore, because a major component of the game is Geralt trying to see if he can settle down and start a "family" as he is becoming tired of his lifestyle. This is the overriding theme of the last three acts.

About the sex cards, yes, they are juvenile, but they are fun. It is kind of like pokemon

that's all fine, I suppose. I didn't and certinaly will not read the books. I tend to regard fantasy as garbage anyway. :\

and yeah...anything that pays homage to pokemon is worse than juvenile.

I should say, though, that I really do think it is a good game, just not my cup of tea. I may revisit it at some point. who knows...
 

Throckmorton

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In reponse to this I quote:



This, plus the fact that Geralt's witcher training actually makes his body able to give women extreme pleasure. In the books, it is mentioned that Geralt's body almost hums, and by merely touching a woman he shoots shocks of pleasure through their body.

It is funny that you are so focused on Geralt being a manwhore, because a major component of the game is Geralt trying to see if he can settle down and start a "family" as he is becoming tired of his lifestyle. This is the overriding theme of the last three acts.

About the sex cards, yes, they are juvenile, but they are fun. It is kind of like pokemon

Sounds like Julian Assange, right down to the freakish white hair.

 
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yuppiejr

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I put some significant time in to the original Witcher but lost interest... the graphics/environment were interesting (if a bit "on rails") - sort of reminded me of a darker, single player Bioware title. I get it's appeal though I think anything about the game was terribly original (smash Gothic into Dragon Age - bam).

The "cards" bit was fairly juvenile but the concept of adult relations in numerous popular "mature" RPG's (Dragon Age, Mass Effect 1/2) aren't a whole lot more subtle. The whole "hooking up" subplot in the latest Bioware titles is completely distracting from what were otherwise interesting games... the dialogue/reactions of the characters seems like something dreamed up by a 12 year old boy who's only experience with women comes from a stolen Victoria's Secret catalog or bits obtained in the AT L&R forum. If you are going to create a game for a mature rating write to something above a 8th grade level and make sure the person doing the writing has actually interacted with someone of the opposite sex that isn't their mom or sister...

I'm fine with lots of gratuitous S&V done right like pretty much any premium cable channel's latest miniseries (Spartacus: Blood and Sand being a recent shining example) ... an akward chain of quest goals leading up to a pixellated alien side butt is about as racy as something you'd find in a Nintendo Wii commercial on ABC.
 

Jadow

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Looking at some youtube videos I think I just might like this game. Thanks for the rec.

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic is a SOLID, fun game that was totally underrated and forgotten. I go back and play that a lot more than other higher rated games.
 

Kladd

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I picked up a copy of The Witcher recently despite some of the negative criticisms I read. The Witcher sounded enjoyable to me since I like rpgs, especially ones' with a good story and I like to give things a fair shake.
Whether it's a book, a movie, or a game- I finish it. Even when I don't care for it early on, I get to the end, because occasionaly it can get better.

So I played The Witcher from beginning to end...and I wish I hadn't.

The Witcher was one of the most overhyped piles of donkey shat that I've played in the last decade.
The story, while it was decent, did not make up for the gameplay. And while a good story is important to me, I weighed the gameplay heavier in this particular case since I was playing a game and not reading a book.
The combat seemed like a hybrid of diablo and baldur's gate, which sounds great, but in actuality it played about as well as a drunken monkey throws darts.

On the bright side, the game only cost £3.15 and the disc made a good frisbee for my dog, so I guess it wasn't all bad.
 

jlee

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Sep 12, 2001
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I finished it. I won't play through it again, but I will probably buy the second one. I'm hoping that they'll smooth the gameplay out a bit..what annoyed me most was the invisible walls that were everywhere outside.
 

zinfamous

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I picked up a copy of The Witcher recently despite some of the negative criticisms I read. The Witcher sounded enjoyable to me since I like rpgs, especially ones' with a good story and I like to give things a fair shake.
Whether it's a book, a movie, or a game- I finish it. Even when I don't care for it early on, I get to the end, because occasionaly it can get better.

So I played The Witcher from beginning to end...and I wish I hadn't.

The Witcher was one of the most overhyped piles of donkey shat that I've played in the last decade.
The story, while it was decent, did not make up for the gameplay. And while a good story is important to me, I weighed the gameplay heavier in this particular case since I was playing a game and not reading a book.
The combat seemed like a hybrid of diablo and baldur's gate, which sounds great, but in actuality it played about as well as a drunken monkey throws darts.

On the bright side, the game only cost £3.15 and the disc made a good frisbee for my dog, so I guess it wasn't all bad.

hmm.

spaceman multi?
 

PingSpike

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Feb 25, 2004
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Dark Messiah of Might and Magic is a SOLID, fun game that was totally underrated and forgotten. I go back and play that a lot more than other higher rated games.

I actually played through the game 3 times, as thief, wizard and warrior oriented characters using different story paths. (Which says a lot because I almost never replay a single player game...and usually bore of them before beating them once) The game is filled with awesome combat, cool monsters that provide interesting battles and nice environmental surprises (which isn't unusual for a game using the source engine). As mentioned, there are a lot of shout outs to Arx Fatalis if you've played that game.

I did not care for the multiplayer, although it didn't factor into my purchase decision. And the reviewers were absolutely correct about the quick kick being over powered (the environment was clearly designed with it in mind, but it felt like a crutch that let me cheaply defeat tough enemies). The game suffered from a buggy initial release which probably affected the review scores more than anything, but I played it after it had been patched and I only remember once getting stuck in a wall while swinging from a rope arrow.

The game had some truly great cinematic moments though, that giant worm hunting you along the cliffs for instance. The first time I fought the troll I hid in the rocks in the center of the area and was amused to see him reach in and find me just out of his grasp...before simply removing the rock I was hiding under to try and get me!
 

darkewaffle

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Oct 7, 2005
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I gave The Witcher like 4-5 hours and I just can't like it. The controls and camera are insufferable and the combat feels really shallow, I finally finished off Dragon Age and was really looking for another RPG to dig into but this isn't it. The voice acting is pretty bad too and the conversations feel very grating because of it.

The story I'm guessing I didn't get to see much of, but it didn't grab me at all, probably because the characters showed absolutely no emotion whatsoever. "Leo's dead." "We should avenge him." "Yes." "Let's go kill those bandits. "That will avenge him." "Then we'll kill more bandits to get our stuff back." "Okay."

The only redeeming factor I can find is that I like the premise of playing a Witcher, it is cool, and that the opening cinematic is pretty sweet.

Just really disappointed, and puzzled at what actually got this game a good reputation.
 

spaceman

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Dec 4, 2000
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well he does
suspending disbelief is one thing
i dont aspire to be a sword pervert
or some medieval van candyman
 
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