The Witcher

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reerun

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Originally posted by: skace
I wouldn't compare this game to BG at all. I'd call it "Fable done right".

That's the most accurate comparison I've seen. Fable done right indeed.
 

reerun

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Originally posted by: userman
Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
Originally posted by: ITPaladin
Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
I think I will buy this game tomorrow. Can someone tell me what the difference is between the censored version and uncensored version? And where can i get the uncensored version? I'm a fucking adult, I don't need Big Brother censoring my shit.

hmmm...

how about reading the posts above yours.

Don't see it. What am I missing here?

Tits, gore and the witcher saying fuck.

"Your moma sucks dwarf cock" best quote from a video game!
 

ITPaladin

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Dec 16, 2003
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Why the hell must NPCs walk around and say out of the blue:

"S$!t in my boots."

It's like some mentally ill person saying random things out loud.

"My balls itch"

Oooook....TMI!



 

chizow

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Originally posted by: reerun
Originally posted by: skace
I wouldn't compare this game to BG at all. I'd call it "Fable done right".

That's the most accurate comparison I've seen. Fable done right indeed.
Never played Fable but just finished the game. Fighting picked up a lot and by the end I'd say the combat aspect felt a lot like JKII, just really dumbed down. Still, really enjoyable game and the story and art is excellent.
 

Judgement

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After playing the demo I decided I had to play the entire game... since it's the holidays and a pain to get into a store to buy it I decided to try that "Direct 2 drive" feature from fileplanet.

I kept getting weird error messages and it would time out after I put in my CC info

For all I know they will charge me 4 times for the game now..

:thumbsdown:
 

MmmSkyscraper

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Jul 6, 2004
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Originally posted by: Modelworks
I do not like the combat system at all.
I know it can be hard to put melee fighting in a game, but I find the current way of doing it in the witcher annoying.

The combat system is complete garbage. That along with the never-ending cut scenes destroy any sense of gameplay. All the work that went into the graphics, sound and the seemingly high production values becomes worthless. Also, are they trying to rival Dead or Alive with the bouncy tits?

Metacritic roundup, Edge gave it 50/100.
 

Mem

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Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Originally posted by: Modelworks
I do not like the combat system at all.
I know it can be hard to put melee fighting in a game, but I find the current way of doing it in the witcher annoying.

The combat system is complete garbage. That along with the never-ending cut scenes destroy any sense of gameplay. All the work that went into the graphics, sound and the seemingly high production values becomes worthless. Also, are they trying to rival Dead or Alive with the bouncy tits?

Metacritic roundup, Edge gave it 50/100.

This is the problem with a lot of reviews,they never paint the true picture since we all expect different things from a game, Bioshock is an example I don't know how any reviewer can give it 10/10 (7/10 at most I would give it) game is boring to be honest.

Btw another recent review of the Witcher here (4.5/5 rating) .

In the end The Witcher is a wonderful RPG with only a few flaws. The game is always exciting and interesting, and will have you thinking ?just one more quest stage before I go to bed,? until the morning light surprises you. Play at your own risk, because you will be surprised at what a detailed, if depressing, world the developers have laid out for you.
 

MmmSkyscraper

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Originally posted by: Mem
Bioshock is an example I don't know how any reviewer can give it 10/10 (7/10 at most I would give it) game is boring to be honest.

Agreed, Bioshock is another game that's supposed to suck for the first few hours like The Witcher. Sorry but I want it to work from the get-go. My brother and I spent the second half of the first level and the whole of the second laughing. The intro went on forever then I'd barely walk 6 feet towards each objective before another cut scene kicked in. It took the piss. I might as well be playing Dragon's Lair.

Other problems - why can't you jump down to a ledge below you? That would be because of the invisible walls Why do the AI characters stand on the stairs waiting for you to hit them? Why are they happy to attack 1 at a time until you've wiped them out, ever so infuriatingly slowly as the sword refuses to do anything... I'll leave it there. They have potential as a developer but they also have a lot to learn.
 

legoman666

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I ended up ordering the uncensored version from gogamer.com after playing the demo. Seems like good stuff. Been looking for something to fill my dosage of RPG for a while now, hopefully this will fit the bill.

The fact that I had to order an imported copy just to get the full experience is rediculous.
 

TheAudit

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May 2, 2003
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Witchers are taught excellent relationship skills because Geralt gets it on with anything that moves!
 

Dethfrumbelo

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Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Originally posted by: Mem
Bioshock is an example I don't know how any reviewer can give it 10/10 (7/10 at most I would give it) game is boring to be honest.

Agreed, Bioshock is another game that's supposed to suck for the first few hours like The Witcher. Sorry but I want it to work from the get-go. My brother and I spent the second half of the first level and the whole of the second laughing. The intro went on forever then I'd barely walk 6 feet towards each objective before another cut scene kicked in. It took the piss. I might as well be playing Dragon's Lair.

Other problems - why can't you jump down to a ledge below you? That would be because of the invisible walls Why do the AI characters stand on the stairs waiting for you to hit them? Why are they happy to attack 1 at a time until you've wiped them out, ever so infuriatingly slowly as the sword refuses to do anything... I'll leave it there. They have potential as a developer but they also have a lot to learn.

I think most of your complaints revolve around the limitations of the crappy Aurora engine (made by Bioware) on which this game runs (see NWN 1/2, KotOR). It's too bad they couldn't use something better (that at least had a true z-axis).

Bioshock did suck for the first few hours, 9 hours to be exact, which also happened to be the time it took me to finish the game.
 

Mem

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Latest review can be found here 9.25/10 rating.


The Witcher is one of the first roleplaying games with teeth that we have seen in a long, long time. It is what I would call "angry fantasy". Life is nasty, brutish and short, there are "heroes" such as they are, people who are not quite as mercenary as men like Geralt, the protagonist, but when not killing monsters they're usually found killing or persecuting the nonhumans of the setting.

Not even the monsters are black and white, some are intelligent and aware of what they are and their actions but need help to stop it - a Witcher can cure as much as kill someone afflicted by lycanthropy or other such fantasy afflictions. There is no black, there is no white, even the villains are only a particularly darker shade of gray.
 

ITPaladin

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Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Originally posted by: Mem
Bioshock is an example I don't know how any reviewer can give it 10/10 (7/10 at most I would give it) game is boring to be honest.

Agreed, Bioshock is another game that's supposed to suck for the first few hours like The Witcher. Sorry but I want it to work from the get-go. My brother and I spent the second half of the first level and the whole of the second laughing. The intro went on forever then I'd barely walk 6 feet towards each objective before another cut scene kicked in. It took the piss. I might as well be playing Dragon's Lair.

Other problems - why can't you jump down to a ledge below you? That would be because of the invisible walls Why do the AI characters stand on the stairs waiting for you to hit them? Why are they happy to attack 1 at a time until you've wiped them out, ever so infuriatingly slowly as the sword refuses to do anything... I'll leave it there. They have potential as a developer but they also have a lot to learn.

You are aware that the first intro/chapter server as sort of a tutorial right?...a sort of exactly that...an intro giving a story.

The only time enemies attack one at a time is when there is only room for them to do so.

Multiple enemies will attempt to surround you.

Your attacks don't attack if you are attacking in the wrong stance.


 

Bateluer

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Jun 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: TheAudit
Witchers are taught excellent relationship skills because Geralt gets it on with anything that moves!

I don't know, I seem to have repelled Adda with ease so far. Plus Shani now hates my guts.

Women like to get it on with Witchers though, they are low risk being sterile and all.
 

ja1484

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Dec 31, 2007
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How's the dialogue/consequences system and such? I hear it's "pretty good" from the reviews, but if it's the same ol' RPG stuff, I won't bother...though supposedly your choices and actions have a noticable effect. Anyone got news on that?
 

Starbuck1975

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Jan 6, 2005
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I played through the demo and was completely underwhelmed by it.

The voice acting is horrible, cliche and incredibly sexist...I understand that the developers wanted to offer a more adult themed RPG, but the Witcher plays out like adult themed in the minds of a teenage boy...more immature than adult.

The combat, at least in the demo, was on auto-pilot...changing your fighting stance depending on the enemy got old real quick, as did the twitch based clicking to open up combo moves.

The finishing move animations were kind of cool, but again got old after I decapitated my 100th enemy.

The amnesia premise of character development is getting played out as well...I like that you start the game with a range of fairly complex skills, to reflect your "badass" character status...but I don't particularly care for RPGs that do not offer a lot of RPG flexibility.

I have heard that the game "gets better", but aren't demos designed to "hook" you.
 

NYHoustonman

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Dec 8, 2002
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It is a shame that the demo is so underwhelming; I'm sure it's kept a lot of people from the game, and it almost did the same for me.

It's been said several times, but don't judge the game by the demo. There's a reason it is (by general opinion) the best PC RPG of 2007... Hell, some would argue you can go back farther than that, but the only other RPG I have much experience with is Oblivion.

Bottom line, if you enjoy RPG's you'll almost certainly enjoy this game - the loading times still suck, though.
 

Keeper

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WOW, so many opposing views..

First think I want to clarify.. I LIKE THIS GAME AND IT WILL GET ME 40 USD worth of play.. ISNT that what this is about?
Given a choice, go see 4 movies or buy this game... Game wins hands down..
And Yes, I own the UK import... No, not for Pixel Boobies... But for the swearing and red blood that I am old enough to know where boundries are..
The Sopranos, while STILL great, loses something on A&E.
(Christopher to a Mark)
"What the fudge you mean you dont have my money you slimy mother of pearl rat..."

Doesnt work... Sorry...

One point I must make in reply to a post above......
Enemies WILL surround you and "Multi Attack". You need to do some work to get out or... where there is a slight opening do a double tap WASD key to "acrobat" out of the situation.... Hard? No... Interesting... Yes... And be careful... At times you WILL have ALLIES fighting with you... Dont miss click cause NOW you are in combat with them...

As Stated, I agree with most all the positives here...
I look at most of the negs with the RCA dog look.
This combat system, worked WELL in DIABLO... Enough for 2 expansions... I felt Diablo was a CLICK fest.... I dont feel that here..
My son wore out a MOUSE on diablo as he CLICKED a thousand times a sec... :frown:

My one and ONLY one complaint is the RAIL system... I walk 3 feet up a ramp and cannot jump off... That sucks..
Game stopper? No.. Love the game.. YES:thumbsup:
I wish that I had that freedom..
Now, as far as the game story being on a rail...
I welcome it... Hello, I am a PC gamer and really have a short attention span LOL.. Oh look, a puppy...
I LOVED Oblivian, for the first 8-10 hours... After that.. I had NO clue what to do or where to go next.... It was TOO vast for me...
YES, a truly GROUND breaking game.... I own it, and still marvel at what it did but you are talking to a guy who finished BG1 and NWN and both KOTORs... Oblivian wore me down.......

Without giving away spoiler at the end of chapter one you make 3 decisions... I am ALREADY wanting to replay the game to answer differently and see what happens...
If you like KOTOR and or KOTOR 2, odds are you will like this game.. PLAY the demo.. YES, IT ramps up after chapter 1.... So it doesnt give you the FULL flavor... But it does give you an idea...

Corny voice acting? YEAH... But it is meant to be a little over the top IMO... If you like Clint Eastwood movies of OLD (Feeling Lucky PUNK, Go Ahead Make my day etc...) then you will have NO issue with the acting..
Geralt (Spelling?) Is Clint of the Middle Ages...
 

ayabe

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I am very close to the end with probably over 80 hours in. I have thoroughly enjoyed this game in spite of some very obvious problems.

Here are list of my gripes in no particular order:

1. Game crashes every hour on the hour, this is actually my biggest complaint by far. I have tried setting up a huge swap file, running it in a window, have all the latest drivers and am running on 32-bit XP. Game has a memory leak, I see no other explanation. I really, really wish the devs would do something about. There are some parts of Chapters II and III that I know by heart because of lost progress.

2. Pathing problems, some of the tile sets are set up to make you purposely have to take a retarded route between two points due to a 1ft wall you can't climb over or something similar. This is frustrating and just a stupid time sink.

3. Inventory space it too small.

4. Extra weapon slots that are 101% useless, why would anyone use a weapon that you can't combo with? The answer is noone would, this shouldn't be in the game.

5. Some of the dialogue is excessively cheesy and man, if it were this easy to get laid IRL..i.e. walk up to a woman and smile or hand her a flower, bam! it's on. :roll: The main story is actually pretty good, though I think final judgment on that will have to wait until I actually finish the game.

I will end up playing through again and make some different choices the next time around, but I have absolutely no regrets about this purchase.

 

Keeper

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Hey Ayabe, nice to meet you..

It is REALLY 80 hours like advertised? SWEET... I figured that was hyperbole...


LOL I Agree the extra weapon slot IS useless...Dont really get it...
I use it to take the BEST weap from things I kill and sell it for Oren...
I look at it as an XTRA inventory slot..

I carried around a steel dagger figuring I needed it to skin the beasts for Alchemy stuff...
WRONG.... LOL

And regarding point 5... I am working on my 4th "conquest"... :thumbsup:

I presumed the first 2 or 3 were EASY to get you in the mind set... They are ALL that easy? LOL, I agree that is stupid...

BUT!!!! I will use that to make up for what I lack in real life!!! I am married with 5 kids so.... Not so much LOL..
(EM Keeper looks around and says to himself Hope wifey doesnt come to these boards.)



 

karioskasra

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I'm almost done the Witcher and it is a rather impressive game, from several viewpoints.

The combat system is impressively bad. There are breaks in combat flow every time you sheath/unsheath your weapon which happens at least twice per fight. You are basically stunned while doing so, and god forbid if you have something beating on you as you might as well go grab a cup of tea while watching Geralt struggle to pull out the right sword. Add to that the automatic unsheathing (can't be disabled) which is about as helpful as a faceful of piss and you'll find yourself avoiding combat as much as you can. If you're too incompetent to code a decent combat system, just take the standard button mashing Jade Empire/Kingdom Hearts route and save us the agony.

Game mechanics are impressively murky. For a game that takes itself seriously as an RPG, certain details just aren't here. There's a huge Glossary section but no mention of any status effects, what they do, or how long they last. Attack speed is never mentioned, and potion descriptions are vague. Combat text scrolls up too fast to see in action (not adjustable), attack range is obscure, enemy collision makes maneuvering difficult, strafing puts you at a snail's pace, rail system (engine limitation) doesn't belong in this game, stat stacking is ridiculous (you can get over 100% dodge), blah blah blah blah. Did they even test this game before releasing it? Five minutes in and I can already identify problems.

Speaking of problems, I had the game crash 3-4 times, and one more due to a cutscene placement. This is unacceptable. I can't even imagine the pile of trash people had to endure before patch 1.2. I'm on Vistax64 with 4gb of ram and there is no excuse whatsoever for any kind of crashing. I can't even remember the last time a modern game crashed on me.

The inventory is impressively horrid. 75% of your inventory will be filled with herbs, 25% with potions, and if you want to carry quest-kill items or loot you're out of luck. They should either have another bag for herbs only or expand the inventory some more. Good thing you'll never need to sell any loot for money because ...

The AI is impressively missing. The A showed up but the I isn't here. Enemies charge at you till they die. Once they have you surrounded they'll attack you one or two at a time, just like 80s kung-fu movies. Poker opponents at ALL levels play like they're blind, rolling randomly, losing every match without fail and obliterating any concept of monetary value. How hard is it to code a poker game that doesn't even use cards?

The game is impressively long. Because it loves to make you walk a lot. And backtrack. Who doesn't want to play an 80 hour game in 20 hours? Certainly not those fools who like condensed, tightly scripted games such as Call of Duty 4! Seriously, this isn't the 80s anymore when game releases were few and far between. Condense your game, we don't all have 100 hours to spend backtracking to pad your playtime count.

with all that said...

The voice acting is superb. This is one of the very few games I've seen where (some of) the actors deliver lines that don't feel like they're hamming it up in a studio.

The atmosphere is amazing. Even though the game scores negative points for making women so easy to score, at least it treats me like an adult and I appreciate that. The gore and feel is great, as if it's spitting in the face of other RPGs that sell out the atmosphere for a PG rating.

The cutscenes are good. They add a nice break in your endless backtracking and provide some humor to boot.

The choices are well-designed. I kept second-guessing myself after making them, telling myself I probably should have picked something else. I picked the bastard racists in red over the dirty racists in blue, and the powerful bitchy chick over the weak cute chick, and neither of them were easy decisions. Bravo.

Overall, this game puts me in a difficult position. On one hand I hate supporting incomplete, messy piles of code like this, but on the other hand I'd like to see more games similar to The Witcher in the future, except with a more thorough run through Quality Assurance. I can see why it's PC RPG of the year, only because winning that title is so meaningless due to lack of competition. It's a very good game, by far from Game of the Year.
 

RS8

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Haven't played in a few weeks but I'll have to agree with the gripes that Ayabe mentioned. So until I start to run out of HDD space, I'll just leave it there for now.
 

StinkyPinky

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My save game folder was over 5 gigs by the time I had finished the game. Crazy...that's almost the original install of the game in saves. Btw, the extra weapon slot is useful. You can have two witcher swords with different damage/buffs depending on what enemy you're facing.
 

Keeper

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Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
My save game folder was over 5 gigs by the time I had finished the game. Crazy...that's almost the original install of the game in saves. Btw, the extra weapon slot is useful. You can have two witcher swords with different damage/buffs depending on what enemy you're facing.

5 gigs? thats crazy.... I will HAVE to start over writting starting tonight

Hey.... thanks for that idea/tip re third slot... Didnt know I would come across a SECOND Witcher sword...

NICE.....

 
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