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CalvinHobbes

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Feb 27, 2004
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As much as I'd hate to leave Nvidia, I would drop them to extend the life of my AGP motherboard. :thumbsup: to Diamond for making an AGP card.
 

Regs

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: kyparrish
My Socket 754 @ 2.5ghz has enough oomph to go with one of these cards. From a business perspective, I don't know why you wouldn't want to release an AGP version of these cards AFTER the initial bleeding-edge enthusiasts have bought PCI-E variants.

How about a socket 939 AGP board like mine? If I can fit a next generation AMD X2 on my motherboard, why not a next generation GPU? Seems like a waste to rebuild my entire computer tower just so I can have a PCI-E interface that has of yet shown no benefit over AGP. I'm not just talking money either. It's the inconvenience at my expense and time. It's a pity that everyone drops AGP just because Intel said so. Of course, Dell was the first to openly bend over for the CPU making giant. I don't blame them though since this is America and they have a right to make money. However Intel is deciding what your demand is. Not always a good thing. Seems like a monopoly to me. In the mean time, AMD fan boys are selling out to the camp which is trying to undercut the very technology they have grown to respect. (End Rant).

Either way, I don't believe now is the time to be upgrading.
 

JimmyH

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Jul 13, 2000
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I hope this is true. An x1800 agp would be awesome. Any definate word yet? As for a solid $50 pcie mobo, I grabbed mine refurbed for $57 at newegg.
 

Janooo

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Aug 22, 2005
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This is from The Inq:
It's obvious that the custom-built PCB features RIALTo PCIe-to-AGP bridge chip, and only makes us wonder why no single vendor stepped up and offered 7800GT(X) on a custom PCB with nVIDIA's own BR02 bridge chip.

The answer is very simple. NV did not allow it. They didn't have any serious competition in the AMD chipset arena. Majority of the new AMD PCIe boards have NV nForce on it. That's all the science to it
 

Hacp

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Jun 8, 2005
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Wow, This MIGHT really be true. Better news for me than the GTX 512 as it will be some time before I even look at a card this price. If AGP is going to get some Next generation cards, that means in 5-10 months, I can upgrade a graphics card for like 300 bucks and get next gen performance.

Now if a Nvidia company follows and releases someting too, then competition= lower price for me . Great news.
 

sodcha0s

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Jan 7, 2001
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I guess nobody really looked too closely....


Featuring:
? ATI Radeon® X1800
? Memory: 256MB DDR
? Slot: PCIE
? With: DVI, Dual Monitor & TV-Out
? AGP Version includes VIVO

This along with the seperate specs for agp/pcie makes it pretty obvious.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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We will just have to wait and see if it's gouing to pan out. It would be welcome in my view.
 

Hacp

Lifer
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I wonder if the Card will take a hit in terms of performance? How much? How about price? Since they use a specially designed PCB, I foresee that the price will be higher than the ATI cards for pCI-E but how much higher?
 

Auric

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Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: T Rush

well..that was fun while it lasted

look again

now back to PCI-E only


Yeah the X1800 system requirements are PCIe only now but like I said about the sloppy pasting from other specs it still says "AGP Version includes VIVO" and if I'm not mistaken has added the same error from the X1600 page: "RADEON X800 Technology Specifications". The availability date has changed from Nov to Dec as well. Really, if any AIB is more likely to do a new high-end AGP with Rialto, it is Sapphire and not DMM unless they are feeling particularly scrappy. In any case, I would guess it would only be possible after the end of current supply constraints (i.e. next year).
 

jjzelinski

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Aug 23, 2004
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How has it changed?

Featuring:
? ATI Radeon® X1800
? Memory: 256MB DDR
? Slot: PCIE
? With: DVI, Dual Monitor & TV-Out
? AGP Version includes VIVO
 

conlan

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Jan 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: jjzelinski
How has it changed?

Featuring:
? ATI Radeon® X1800
? Memory: 256MB DDR
? Slot: PCIE
? With: DVI, Dual Monitor & TV-Out
? AGP Version includes VIVO


It used state:
Slot: AGP or PCI-E

I haven't recieved a reply to my e-mail from Diamond, but it looks like they're trying to correct the webpage.
 

Hacp

Lifer
Jun 8, 2005
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Ya I would think that Sapphire or Connect 3D would be the ones who would make the AGP version, not some no-name brand .
 

BlingBlingArsch

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May 10, 2005
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ridiculous. the inquirer ppl seem to lurk in forums and then write their "news". and from xbit i expected alot mroe credibility. if this turns out to be true and there really will be agp version of the x1800 then iam the idiot of course. but today i think the news sites are boons. especially the inq. like that one writer who wrote the 165 looks like a dual-turion to her, cmon..
 

conlan

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Jan 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: Hacp
Ya I would think that Sapphire or Connect 3D would be the ones who would make the AGP version, not some no-name brand .


Diamond has been making VidCards for a longtime.
 

Auric

Diamond Member
Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
ridiculous. the inquirer ppl seem to lurk in forums and then write their "news". and from xbit i expected alot mroe credibility.

That's wot I was finking.

 

BespinReactorShaft

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Jun 9, 2004
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As much as my AGP rig aches for it, this is useless without further verification, pricing, and details. X1800 what exactly? XT? XL? MILF?

p/s. my first ever 3D vid card was a Diamond Viper V550 (NVidia Riva TNT 1) back in 1998 when Unreal 1 was still big. Never thought we'd meet again...
 

apoppin

Lifer
Mar 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: BespinReactorShaft
As much as my AGP rig aches for it, this is useless without further verification, pricing, and details. X1800 what exactly? XT? XL? MILF?

p/s. my first ever 3D vid card was a Diamond Viper V550 (NVidia Riva TNT 1) back in 1997 when Unreal 1 was still big. Never thought we'd meet again...

who cares? this is just the first of the x1800 AGP variants if Diamond is successful . . . and we are not asolutely certain they have the specs nailed down - or confirmation - yet.

But i am certain at least one of ati's partners sees demand - especially with nVidia having the performance crown.

and i am in not such a hurry to upgrade . . . the first few AGP cards will no doubt carry a hefty price premium.
 
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