There will be chaos in Bama tonight

[preslove]

I'm a gator fan & usually an SEC home, and I want to see OSU LSU. National Championship games with an SEC team kicking the shit out of another conference champ is always fun. Of course, if OSU manages to reverse the trend and upset LSU, that'll me a good fucking football game.

Either way, I'll be entertained. LSU BAMA would be a good defensive game, but I already saw that. Don't know if I'll tune in.

 

[zinfamous]

Top 8 teams after championships/final week go to playoffs (bye for top 4 teams-must be conf champions--and no-an unexpected weird situation where UCLA this year wins the hilarious P10 title does not count, lol).

current BCS bowls represent those playoff bowl games. these games get twice the coverage, twice the games for each city.

the money-grubbing corporate whores that own the bowl game system and have effectively ruined NCAA football still get their share, and they get more, and football is fixed.


why is it not that easy?

 

[zinfamous]

I'm a gator fan & usually an SEC home, and I want to see OSU LSU. National Championship games with an SEC team kicking the shit out of another conference champ is always fun. Of course, if OSU manages to reverse the trend and upset LSU, that'll me a good fucking football game.

Either way, I'll be entertained. LSU BAMA would be a good defensive game, but I already saw that. Don't know if I'll tune in.

lol. I like your spirit. This is why I'm an ACC homer when it comes to the best sport in the world: college basketball.




(but yeah, no matter what: Carolina can fucking DIAF...even if they are winning me cash at the end of the year. :sneaky

 

[Wreckem]

agree on all counts.

and BCS does nothing to fix these problems.

During most of its existence it has done a better job than the previous system.

I never said the BCS was perfect. Its far from it and we really need a playoff system. The excuses for not having one are all complete and total bullshit. Every other team sport in Div I, Div IAA, Div II, and Div III have playoffs.

 

[Gibsons]

I'm a gator fan & usually an SEC home, and I want to see OSU LSU. National Championship games with an SEC team kicking the shit out of another conference champ is always fun. Of course, if OSU manages to reverse the trend and upset LSU, that'll me a good fucking football game.

Either way, I'll be entertained. LSU BAMA would be a good defensive game, but I already saw that. Don't know if I'll tune in.

I'd be riveted by a LSU-bama rematch. It would be a vicious battle.

But I still think Ok st deserves a chance.

 

[pcgeek11]

I think if you ask any college football fans about this choice for BCS Championship game: 1) Bama vs. LSU (again) or 2) OSU vs. LSU. I am pretty sure they will pick #2 by a large margin.

I would like to bee LSU and Bama in the BCS Championship game... I choose # 1.

 

[preslove]

lol. I like your spirit. This is why I'm an ACC homer when it comes to the best sport in the world: college basketball.




(but yeah, no matter what: Carolina can fucking DIAF...even if they are winning me cash at the end of the year. :sneaky

I'd kind of like to see OSU make a game of it, but I'd like to see points on the board.

Regarding basketball, I didn't see any ACC teams in either 2006 or 2007 NC games

 

[DayLaPaul]

During most of its existence it has done a better job than the previous system.

I never said the BCS was perfect. Its far from it and we really need a playoff system. The excuses for not having one are all complete and total bullshit.

I think the BCS formula should take into account whether or not a team even won their own conference. The last time a team made it into the national title game without winning its conference (Nebraska), they got blown out (by Miami) in one of the more boring national title games in recent memory. This ultimately led them blowing up the system and adding increased weight to human polls vs. computers ranking.

Something tells me that if Alabama couldn't take care of LSU at home, then on a neutral field, it could get ugly. If that happens, I hope the inevitable BCS tweaks finally address this issue of non conference champions making it to the title game.

 

[Wreckem]

I think the BCS formula should take into account whether or not a team even won their own conference. The last time a team made it into the national title game without winning its conference (Nebraska), they got blown out (by Miami) in one of the more boring national title games in recent memory. This ultimately led them blowing up the system and adding increased weight to human polls vs. computers ranking.

Something tells me that if Alabama couldn't take care of LSU at home, then on a neutral field, it could get ugly. If that happens, I hope the inevitable BCS tweaks finally address this issue of non conference champions making it to the title game.

Conferences are meaningless bullshit. Until 3.5 of the 5 AQ conferences aren't a joke, they should not require you to be a conference champion.

Thats like saying LSU, if they lost tonight, wouldn't deserve to be in the title game, when they would have clearly been the best 1 loss team in the country. They would have been 7-1 vs top 25 teams. Next nearest competitor would be Alabama at 4-1 against top 25 teams. Then OkSt, 4-0 to top 25 teams but 1 loss to an unranked 6-6 historical doormat. And by your horribly flawed logic, the title game this year if LSU would have lost, would have been OkSt(projected #3) and Oregon(projected #8). Because Stanford didn't win its conference, nor did Alabama or Boise.

The national title game should be played for by the two best teams in the country. Not who can win at tiddlywinks in their cupcake conferences.

You cannot claim to be #2 in the country with a loss to a 6-6 Iowa State team. IMHO if you have one loss but it was to any team ranked 11-unranked you have no legitimate claim at being #2 in the country unless there are no other 1 loss teams. Even if you win your conference.

 

[KentState]

The only way that I feel you can truly say you are the best team is to beat the best from another conference at the end of the year. Even though I feel that Bama and LSU are probably the best out there, I can't definitively make that call unless I seem them take on a non-conference team. Doesn't mean that Bama can't be #2 at the end of the year if LSU wins out. Even if LSU played Bama and lost, I would still rate them #1 overall since they first won over Bama on the road and won the SEC championship game.

 

[dmcowen674]

College football (BCS) will always be a joke.

They will always be boys until they man up and go to a playoff system.

 

[MayorOfAmerica]

I'm too lazy to investigate this so I'll just say this as hear-say:

The naming rights to bowl games have been sold out as far as 2035.

If this is indeed true, would it be breach of contract to go to a playoff system and re-assign the naming rights to each playoff game? Would there be enough playoff games to cover everyone (I'm looking at you whoever motor-city bowl)?

I firmly believe this is the major reason for not going to a playoff system.

If I owned the naming rights to a major bowl, I would certainly consider restructuring the naming-rights contract to fit a playoff scheme, because I think it would bring in more viewers (based solely on personal opinion). I don't consider most bowls right now to be appointment viewing, but I certainly would consider each playoff game to be such. I think a playoff system is better for business all around, not mention it would be AWESOME!

Perhaps to get around the naming rights issue you can still have crap games like the motor-city bowl played on a Wednesday between playoff games or something. Nobody watches those POS bowls unless their team is involved or its played locally anyway.

Without thinking about it too much I'd like to see conference champions and say 2 wildcards based on BCS rankings (to cover teams like Alabama this year) make it, with byes given to the appropriate teams. Is that enough to stop teams from getting snubbed? No, but it's vastly better than what there is now.

 

[SP33Demon]

OK St lost to a team that finished 6-6. Sorry, that is way worse than Bama's loss to LSU.

I want to see OK St's aerial attack vs LSU (esp since WVU passed for 454 yards on LSU), but Alabama has the better loss and play in the top conference. I have no problem seeing a rematch even though I'd like it to go the other way.

 

[zinfamous]

I'd kind of like to see OSU make a game of it, but I'd like to see points on the board.

Regarding basketball, I didn't see any ACC teams in either 2006 or 2007 NC games

lol. and what about NC games from the previous 2 decades?

 

[zinfamous]

I'm too lazy to investigate this so I'll just say this as hear-say:

The naming rights to bowl games have been sold out as far as 2035.

If this is indeed true, would it be breach of contract to go to a playoff system and re-assign the naming rights to each playoff game? Would there be enough playoff games to cover everyone (I'm looking at you whoever motor-city bowl)?

I firmly believe this is the major reason for not going to a playoff system.

If I owned the naming rights to a major bowl, I would certainly consider restructuring the naming-rights contract to fit a playoff scheme, because I think it would bring in more viewers (based solely on personal opinion). I don't consider most bowls right now to be appointment viewing, but I certainly would consider each playoff game to be such. I think a playoff system is better for business all around, not mention it would be AWESOME!

Perhaps to get around the naming rights issue you can still have crap games like the motor-city bowl played on a Wednesday between playoff games or something. Nobody watches those POS bowls unless their team is involved or its played locally anyway.

Without thinking about it too much I'd like to see conference champions and say 2 wildcards based on BCS rankings (to cover teams like Alabama this year) make it, with byes given to the appropriate teams. Is that enough to stop teams from getting snubbed? No, but it's vastly better than what there is now.

They already rotate the NC game from one BCS bowl to another year after year, so structuring them into a playoff system would make no difference. You already have 4--or is it 5, now? bowls--which is a perfect system to create an 8-team playoff.

No names have to change, the NC game can still rotate from one bowl to another, it simply doesn't matter. You already have a regional system, and how the teams are organized into each round can be seeded and determined by region. ...Well, maybe not as easy with only 8 teams, and 80% of those teams likely being an SEC team from year-to-year. :hmm:

 

[zinfamous]

The only way that I feel you can truly say you are the best team is to beat the best from another conference at the end of the year. Even though I feel that Bama and LSU are probably the best out there, I can't definitively make that call unless I seem them take on a non-conference team. Doesn't mean that Bama can't be #2 at the end of the year if LSU wins out. Even if LSU played Bama and lost, I would still rate them #1 overall since they first won over Bama on the road and won the SEC championship game.

In the game yesterday, I swear one of the commentators, in all seriousness, suggested that LSU should get a "share" of the title even if they lose the NC game.

lol.

 

[Wreckem]

In the game yesterday, I swear one of the commentators, in all seriousness, suggested that LSU should get a "share" of the title even if they lose the NC game.

lol.

There is the Coaches Trophy(tied to the winner of the BCS title game) and the AP trophy.

If LSU and Alabama play, its extremely possible if LSU lost be say 1-3 points, they would still be #1 in the AP, because they would be 8-1 against top 25 times and Alabama would be 5-1 against top 25 teams.

 

[Sinsear]

College football is a joke.

 

[Fingolfin269]

No playoff is dumb. If people want to say the regular season is the playoff then that's fine. It means you have to judge things that are similar about teams and in this case one similarity is that both teams have one loss.

Alabama lost by 3 to LSU.
Ok St lost to Iowa State.

One of those losses is not like the other.

I don't like the idea of two teams from the same conference playing in the NC (potential Michigan/OSU a few years back for example) but how do you have a system and then purposely circumvent that system to get the outcome you want without everyone calling it a joke?

 

[MayorOfAmerica]

They already rotate the NC game from one BCS bowl to another year after year, so structuring them into a playoff system would make no difference. You already have 4--or is it 5, now? bowls--which is a perfect system to create an 8-team playoff.

No names have to change, the NC game can still rotate from one bowl to another, it simply doesn't matter. You already have a regional system, and how the teams are organized into each round can be seeded and determined by region. ...Well, maybe not as easy with only 8 teams, and 80% of those teams likely being an SEC team from year-to-year. :hmm:

The SEC can't help it if they're simply a higher class than the rest of the conferences. (OK I'm an SEC fan)

I think there are more than just 5 bowls though (lots of minor bowls) who's naming rights have already been sold. Conference champions should make it in, regardless of how weak a conference seems (could be a bunch of good teams beating each other up leading to depressed records). I also think there needs to be wiggle room to allow for some top BCS ranked teams to make it in if they werent the conference champs.

 

[Fingolfin269]

I've come up with the perfect solution. Just crown LSU now. Because even if they lose the NC game it would be to either a team they already beat or a team that lost to a .500 team.

/playoff

 

[Darwin333]

And bama lost, at home.

<----SEC homer.

Another team deserves a shot. Think back to when OSU and Meatchicken played the 'game of the century,' and some were arguing for a rematch. Both of them got blown out in the bowls. Some other team (okie st imo) should get a shot at LSU.

Maybe LSU and bama aren't really that good, just like OSU and UM back then. I don't think so, but it should be put to the test.

Maybe LSU and Bama aren't really that good?

Lets see, LSU has beaten (in order):

#3
#25
#16
#17
#19
#2
#3
and last night #12

Alabamas schedule hasn't been as tough but they have beaten 4 or 5 top ranked teams as well.

WTH, in your opinion, does it take to be "that good"?

 

[dbk]

please no lsu bama...pick osu

 

[abaez]

Pros for OkSt going:
Better strength of schedule over Alabama (10th vs 38)
Won their conference championship
Has not previously lost to the current #1 team
5-2 edge over Alabama in wins against the current Top 25
7-3 edge in wins over bowl-bound teams

Cons for OkSt going:
Their one loss is much worse

Pros for Alabama going:
Kept up with the current #1 but still lost
Better looking loss over OkSt

Cons:
No conf championship (they were eating cheetos this weekend while LSU was playing)
Worse SOS
Less wins against current top 25 and bowl teams
Already lost to current #1 at home

I think OkSt deserves a chance.

 

[ElFenix]

Maybe LSU and Bama aren't really that good?

Lets see, LSU has beaten (in order):

#3
#25
#16
#17
#19
#2
#3
and last night #12

Alabamas schedule hasn't been as tough but they have beaten 4 or 5 top ranked teams as well.

WTH, in your opinion, does it take to be "that good"?

take away the extra 5 spots that just being in the SEC gets you in the polls and...

alabama has played basically no one other than LSU. penn state is the worst 3 loss team that has ever existed. piggy's biggest win is over a 6-6 a&m team. the entire SEC east is horrible this year. auburn is terrible this year. georgia southern? kent state?




coaches' poll is out, not looking good for ok state. they moved up, but not enough.

then again, clemson is ranked behind a team they've beaten the shit out of twice this year. so why do we give any credence to these fucksticks?