Thermogenic that still works?

[slackerinabox]

I've been dieting and exercising for a while now and am happy with the results (slow and steady, for sure!) but remember the kick my workouts would get back when I took ECA stacks. I go to a cardiologist every other month, and don't worry about my heart (so please no lectures) - anything on the market not suck?

 

[marmasatt]

Why not just use ECA?

 

[PenguinPower]

Why do you go to a cardiologist every other month if you don't worry about your heart?

 

[marmasatt]

Why do you go to a cardiologist every other month if you don't worry about your heart?

Well, that too, lol. Now I'm kind of curious.

2 things - first, me thinks you doth protest too much. You know you are going to get two kinds of answers. If you ask for advice, people are going to dispense advice. People still go with ECA stack because it works.

Alot of the alleged thermogenics now are just snake oil - so they don't work. but having said that, I'll be curious to see if people respond with anything good.

 

[SP33Demon]

ECA. One thing that works for upping my energy levels is red wine extract, but not enough research has been done on what that does long term and it's not as big of a boost as caffeine.

 

[slackerinabox]

Why not just use ECA?

Because I haven't been able to find any locally, and I don't really want to get involved with shady websites.

 

[slackerinabox]

Why do you go to a cardiologist every other month if you don't worry about your heart?

Ha, I have the start of genetic high blood pressure and I'm on stimulants (adderall for adhd) and used to smoke, so my cardiologist likes me to check in frequently. I don't go as often anymore actually, but my larger point is that I don't have much to fear and my cardiologist himself put me on phenepherine for a bit, a powerful stimulant, for weight loss. His reasoning was that my heart could handle it and, the faster I lose weight around my midsection the better.

 

[Crono]

Ha, I have the start of genetic high blood pressure and I'm on stimulants (adderall for adhd) and used to smoke, so my cardiologist likes me to check in frequently. I don't go as often anymore actually, but my larger point is that I don't have much to fear and my cardiologist himself put me on phenepherine for a bit, a powerful stimulant, for weight loss. His reasoning was that my heart could handle it and, the faster I lose weight around my midsection the better.

If you are already on stimulants, I'm not sure I'd be taking any thermogenics that would actually work, save maybe for something gentle like green tea.

 

[utahraptor]

Turn the thermostat way down in your house. Over time being in the colder temperature especially when sleeping will cause an increase in the amount of brown fat in your body so you will be converting calories to heat more effectively.

 

[slackerinabox]

If you are already on stimulants, I'm not sure I'd be taking any thermogenics that would actually work, save maybe for something gentle like green tea.

I'm actually thinking about quitting adderall, especially since I remember ECA stacks giving me a bit of clarity too (and I get quite pissy on adderall, something I don't like at all). I've quit smoking as well, so much

I got some l-theamine (sp?), caffeine, and green tea over the weekend that I just started taking - I doubt there will be much weight loss but I do feel a bit clearer headed, will try working out under the influence, see if it's anywhere that great rush I felt working out using eca stacks.

 

[amicold]

You can go to any pharmacy and buy ephedrine. Primatene or Bronkaid brand name. Primatene is ephedrine hydrochloride and Bronkaid is the sulfate. Stack it up with generic caffeine pills and baby aspirins. Total cost should be under $20 and hey, the stuff is USP =)

Other than that there isn't much on the market that will help as much. If you pick up any "fat burner" they'll all have caffeine, and some newer b2 agonist like synephrine. Better off sticking to tried and true.

 

[nickqt]

Stick with ephedrine and caffeine together 2-3 times a day.

Don't even worry about the aspirin, or take fish oil.

 

[formula1]

I feel like certain thermogenics and "Fat Burners" can hurt the endocrine system if abused or even just used. Though the results when it comes to body fat %'s is incredible I just don't think it is worth it.