They Did it! CA lawmakers pass bill requiring Trump, presidential candidates to release tax returns

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fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Guys it’s not worth knowing if someone is bribing the president because it would violate his privacy.

Lol. Talking of terminally stupid.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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One final time for the terminally fucking stupid. This has nothing to do with Trump or any other boogie man currently living between your ears. I'm opposed to forcing anyone to publicly disclose personal information. I know this isn't going to resonate with the resident TDS sufferers but that's a self inflicted problem, not mine.

It's also worth pointing out to you hypocrites that no one was calling for Bernie to be kept off the ballot when he hadn't released his returns.

Yammer away. It's hilarious.
Because we don't need to know if our politicians are corruptible? No one would be forced to do it because they don't have to run for President. Its a privilege not a right.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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When information is submitted for a clearance there is a clear expectation, and requirement, that the information remain private. To say it's the same thing is just bullshit. I know for the TDS suffering fucktards this is all about 'getting Trump'. You've made that clear. There are bigger privacy issues at stake and you would probably realize that if you're already limited intelligence wasn't further diminished by TDS. Yap away.

that you can't appreciate the very simple and obvious distinction between public figures serving the public and private citizens shows that your TDS is at severely advanced stages.

Seek help. Maybe go watch some internet Hillary porn or something.
 

ImpulsE69

Lifer
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Dumb question left turn but what does TDS stand for that everyone is throwing around lately? Trump Dementia Syndrome?
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Dumb question left turn but what does TDS stand for that everyone is throwing around lately? Trump Dementia Syndrome?

Trump Dick Sucking(/ers)

I should clarify: gaslighted GOP whackos have coined TDS as "Trump Derangement Syndrome" to label anyone that hates fascism and bigotry to be "non-Americans," so you must be crazy and evil to point out all of the alarmingly anti-American policy from the observably fascist cabal that is the Trump empire. Of course Trump and his handlers now use this frequently as well when attacking their critics from the pro-America side, because it's exactly the sort of thing that fascists are known to do.

...this is obviously crazy, because the only people suffering from any kind of derangement as it relates to Trump are those that continue to mindlessly support him in the face of all the mounting and undeniable evidence against him.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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Guys it’s not worth knowing if someone is bribing the president because it would violate his privacy.

Lol. Talking of terminally stupid.
Terminally stupid is thinking that bribes are going to be listed on his tax returns.
What everyone is actually after is an audit trail. They want to dig through the information and find the source of every dollar that's been paid to Trump. At some point, they'll come across an LLC that has a questionable history, or connections to Russian interests. That's what we're after.

Trump is foolish in that he let his foundation get shut down, as that's the best method of accepting dirty money, and provides a near bulletproof shield. I'm surprised his money manager let that sink.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Terminally stupid is thinking that bribes are going to be listed on his tax returns.
What everyone is actually after is an audit trail. They want to dig through the information and find the source of every dollar that's been paid to Trump. At some point, they'll come across an LLC that has a questionable history, or connections to Russian interests. That's what we're after.

Trump is foolish in that he let his foundation get shut down, as that's the best method of accepting dirty money, and provides a near bulletproof shield. I'm surprised his money manager let that sink.
He still has his campaign apparatus to accept and launder bribes.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Terminally stupid is thinking that bribes are going to be listed on his tax returns.

But literally nobody thinks that and we've had this discussion before. The tax returns are the first step in finding out if anyone is bribing the president.

Why do you keep repeating arguments that no one is making that have already been explained?

What everyone is actually after is an audit trail. They want to dig through the information and find the source of every dollar that's been paid to Trump. At some point, they'll come across an LLC that has a questionable history, or connections to Russian interests. That's what we're after.

Trump is foolish in that he let his foundation get shut down, as that's the best method of accepting dirty money, and provides a near bulletproof shield. I'm surprised his money manager let that sink.

Yes, once you get access to his tax returns you see what LLCs he's getting income from, then you dig into those LLCs. We've been over this before. As to 'what we're after', we're after seeing if the president is engaging in any criminal activity and/or is financially compromised by foreign powers. It should be common sense to anyone not terminally stupid that as a simple national security matter this is vital information for the country.

As I keep saying you guys need to stop and think for a minute if your party is more important to you or if your country is. If people wanted financial disclosures from a Democratic President I would carry them over myself if I could. This is because I put America before the Democratic Party. Someday I hope Republicans will do the same.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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One final time for the terminally fucking stupid. This has nothing to do with Trump or any other boogie man currently living between your ears. I'm opposed to forcing anyone to publicly disclose personal information. I know this isn't going to resonate with the resident TDS sufferers but that's a self inflicted problem, not mine.

It's also worth pointing out to you hypocrites that no one was calling for Bernie to be kept off the ballot when he hadn't released his returns.

Yammer away. It's hilarious.
Every single post of yours screams suffering... r u ok man?
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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The founders thought if a president was corrupt, criminal, or treasonous he would be removed by Congress.

The founders were very, very wrong.

The founders never could have imagined the unifying power of today's communications and ease of travel. That people could rally behind a political party above all else, and be daft enough to not realize the consequences of sacrificing the nation - was unthinkable. Who would willingly commit suicide thusly?

Apparently, in our modern era, we have at long last found the answer. To the doom of moral conviction and the doom of our nation.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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The founders never could have imagined the unifying power of today's communications and ease of travel. That people could rally behind a political party above all else, and be daft enough to not realize the consequences of sacrificing the nation - was unthinkable. Who would willingly commit suicide thusly?

Apparently, in our modern era, we have at long last found the answer. To the doom of moral conviction and the doom of our nation.

Actually they imagined such a scenario and were well aware of the fact that people could be swayed by someone in a cult like fashion.

In fact our whole government was setup specifically to combat such a thing from happening.

Their original thinking and the first safeguard was that white, wealthy, land owning, men would be the best people to decide what was best for the country.

They understood that someone who was given a title or received things of value from a foreign entity could not be impartial and or put America's interest before all others. The purpose of the emoluments clause and various other requirements to be a president, like an age requirement and being a naturally born citizen, were to ensure a country first (ours) mentality and had enough world experience to make sound decisions. That's the 2nd safeguard.

They understood though, that even white, wealthy, land owning men could be enamored with strongmen types. The whole point of the electoral college was to be the 3rd line of defense against the people rallying around a strongman type. The electoral college was supposed to be the wisest of the wise, who would be above falling for such people.

The 4th line of defense was the other two branches of our government who could restrict/limit the president. Its also why they were against a standing army, so that it couldn't be used to rally the country for conflicts created for such a purpose and its why Congress was supposed to authorize conflicts. They understood nationalism was not a good thing.

The final check was impeachment.

Their failure was their trust in white wealthy men. With such a narrow inclusion of citizens in the power structure, it was bound to be corrupted. What followed were rules/laws and institutions that were created to help the country and themselves. It was essentially a political form of inbreeding.

So yes they imagined a trump like figure, what they didn't count on was a Mitch McConnell type in the senate, or an AG like Barr, or any one of the hundreds of other Republicans who put party before country or a supreme court that would be politicized.
 
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hal2kilo

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Feb 24, 2009
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Terminally stupid is thinking that bribes are going to be listed on his tax returns.
What everyone is actually after is an audit trail. They want to dig through the information and find the source of every dollar that's been paid to Trump. At some point, they'll come across an LLC that has a questionable history, or connections to Russian interests. That's what we're after.

Trump is foolish in that he let his foundation get shut down, as that's the best method of accepting dirty money, and provides a near bulletproof shield. I'm surprised his money manager let that sink.
Silly person. New York state stepped in and closed down his criminal enterprise. Let?
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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Terminally stupid is thinking that bribes are going to be listed on his tax returns.
What everyone is actually after is an audit trail. They want to dig through the information and find the source of every dollar that's been paid to Trump. At some point, they'll come across an LLC that has a questionable history, or connections to Russian interests. That's what we're after.

Trump is foolish in that he let his foundation get shut down, as that's the best method of accepting dirty money, and provides a near bulletproof shield. I'm surprised his money manager let that sink.

I don't think he had an option with his sham charity/slush fund.
But don't fret, republicans still have super pacs to funnel unlimited mountains of cash into their gaping maws.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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I don't think he had an option with his sham charity/slush fund.
But don't fret, republicans still have super pacs to funnel unlimited mountains of cash into their gaping maws.

Yeah he seems to have forgotten that Trump shut down his 'charity' precisely because it was exposed to be a giant scam.

It makes it even more odd that the one entity of Trump's that HAS been subject to significant scrutiny turned out to be a huge scam but then be outraged that anyone would want to look into his other finances.
 

brandonbull

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May 3, 2005
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Sp now CA is in the voter suppression business? Not enough to game the system by loading up on illegal aliens, but now have are circumventing the Constitution.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Sp now CA is in the voter suppression business? Not enough to game the system by loading up on illegal aliens, but now have are circumventing the Constitution.

I don't think you know what voter suppression is.

Hell, its obvious by your post that you don't know shit about anything.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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I don't think you know what voter suppression is.

Hell, its obvious by your post that you don't know shit about anything.
If Trump isn't on the ballot CA, how are the tens of California Trump supporters going to vote for him?
 

sactoking

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I struggle to see how "liberal" states putting requirements to appear on the ballot is voter suppression but "conservative" states outright refusing to hold a primary is not.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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I struggle to see how "liberal" states putting requirements to appear on the ballot is voter suppression but "conservative" states outright refusing to hold a primary is not.
I don't see it as voter suppression. Though I'll be curious to see how it's presented in court. I would guess it will involve the 9th and 14th amendments, though that's just a guess.
 

Challenger

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Straight from The Constitution:
  • Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1
  • No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.
Since the qualifications for candidates is stated in The Constitution states can not usurp it.
 
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