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woolfe9998

Lifer
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never ever call the police. They are not your friend. They will kill you at the first sign of a slight risk to themselves.

LOL, if YOU want to not call the cops if your home is being invaded, that's your call. The odds of actually being shot by police in a given encounter are extremely low.
 

senseamp

Lifer
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LOL, if YOU want to not call the cops if your home is being invaded, that's your call. The odds of actually being shot by police in a given encounter are extremely low.
Police will get there when your stuff is gone, break some more stuff "securing the premises," and then "put their best people on it" to recover what was stolen.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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Police will get there when your stuff is gone, break some more stuff "securing the premises," and then "put their best people on it" to recover what was stolen.

Ah OK. Why don't we just do away with the cops then? All they do is kill people and never help anyone, right?
 
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woolfe9998

Lifer
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Someone has to take a police report so you can file a claim with insurance.

So that in your view is why we should have police? I don't know man. We spend a lot of our tax payer dollars on law enforcement. I say since police are 100% useless, have never in the history of the US solved a crime or helped any person, and because they kill you 99% of the time when you call them, we should have no police. Of course, without police to enforce the laws, we should have a not criminal code either. Won't make any difference since the police don't do anything but shoot people anyway.
 

J.Wilkins

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Ah OK. Why don't we just do away with the cops then? All they do is kill people and never help anyone, right?

Wouldn't it be better to make the coppers actually accountable for their mistakes? Does it have to be "either let them do whatever the hell they want or get rid of them completely"?

In other nations the Police are held to a higher standard than the average citizen and the things that an average citizen may get away with is something that a cop will never get away with. Not only that but if the Police Officer is actually found guilty of a crime when performing their duties they are punished much harder than a civilian.

The reason being that they are well trained in performing their duties and they know the laws better than your average civilian.
 
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GagHalfrunt

Lifer
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LOL, if YOU want to not call the cops if your home is being invaded, that's your call. The odds of actually being shot by police in a given encounter are extremely low.

But your odds of being shot by police in a given encounter drop to zero if the police are not present.
 
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JSt0rm

Lifer
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So that in your view is why we should have police? I don't know man. We spend a lot of our tax payer dollars on law enforcement. I say since police are 100% useless, have never in the history of the US solved a crime or helped any person, and because they kill you 99% of the time when you call them, we should have no police. Of course, without police to enforce the laws, we should have a not criminal code either. Won't make any difference since the police don't do anything but shoot people anyway.

you were just given a reason why we need police and then go on to talk about 100% useless. They arent 100% useless. We need people to stand in court rooms. Give speeding tickets (for now. once we have automated cars we can get rid of a lot of the cops) and be detective types.

You are just creating straw man ridiculous arguments you can attack later.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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LOL, if YOU want to not call the cops if your home is being invaded, that's your call. The odds of actually being shot by police in a given encounter are extremely low.

What are my chances of being the victim of a home invasions?
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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Wouldn't it be better to make the coppers actually accountable for their mistakes? Does it have to be "either let them do whatever the hell they want or get rid of them completely"?

In other nations the Police are held to a higher standard than the average citizen and the things that an average citizen may get away with is something that a cop will never get away with. Not only that but if the Police Officer is actually found guilty of a crime when performing their duties they are punished much harder than a civilian.

The reason being that they are well trained in performing their duties and they know the laws better than your average civilian.


naw. Here in murica cops can do anything. Unions.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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Yeah, 911 is now a suicide hotline. Call to commit suicide.

That's where I disagree with #BLM. Police violence and brutality threatens all lives. It's not racial. They'd have so much more support.

It's not that they're wrong... but the issue is greater, more inclusive than it is portrayed as.
 
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senseamp

Lifer
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That's where I disagree with #BLM. Police violence and brutality threatens all lives. It's not racial. They'd have so much more support.

It's not that they're wrong... but the issue is greater, more inclusive than it is portrayed as.
You disagree with what? That black lives matter?
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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you were just given a reason why we need police and then go on to talk about 100% useless. They arent 100% useless. We need people to stand in court rooms. Give speeding tickets (for now. once we have automated cars we can get rid of a lot of the cops) and be detective types.

You are just creating straw man ridiculous arguments you can attack later.

Not much of a straw man. Standing in court rooms, fine. Speeding tickets, for now. We don't need a large police force for that. We could at least cut it in half. Like I said, law enforcement is expensive.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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Wouldn't it be better to make the coppers actually accountable for their mistakes? Does it have to be "either let them do whatever the hell they want or get rid of them completely"?

Holding them accountable for misconduct is obviously something we should be doing to a greater extent. But some people seem to think that not only are cops not being held accountable, but that they aren't doing much of value.

In other nations the Police are held to a higher standard than the average citizen and the things that an average citizen may get away with is something that a cop will never get away with. Not only that but if the Police Officer is actually found guilty of a crime when performing their duties they are punished much harder than a civilian.

Sounds good to me.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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Not much of a straw man. Standing in court rooms, fine. Speeding tickets, for now. We don't need a large police force for that. We could at least cut it in half. Like I said, law enforcement is expensive.

and what will we do with a bunch of middle of the road authoritarians when we dont need them anymore?
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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But your odds of being shot by police in a given encounter drop to zero if the police are not present.

Yes, and my odds of dying in a car accident are zero if I never get in a car. So? Sometimes it's necessary to call the police. Not doing so because you're afraid of being shot, when the odds are probably a million to one, is stupid. The logic of avoiding a tiny risk only makes sense if there is never any utility in calling the police.

12 years ago my wife's nephew, who was 10 at the time, was visiting from out of state with his parents. While in our living room, he choked on a pretzel. We called 911, who dispatched a cop, who arrived in 2 minutes (we have very fast response times in our town). We were trying to Heimlich him but it wouldn't come up and he was turning blue. The cop took over and the boy immediately expelled the pretzel. It's possible it would have come up anyway without the cop, but it's also possible the cop saved his life.

Should we have not called the cops then because of a remote chance the cop might have shot us?
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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and what will we do with a bunch of middle of the road authoritarians when we dont need them anymore?

We may reach a point where we don't need traffic cops any more. That would actually be nice. But we're always going to need them to solve serious crimes.
 

master_shake_

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4703892/Police-officer-shot-Justine-Damond-identified.html

The cop with only two years experience who shot pyjama-wearing Australian woman, 40, dead through the DOOR of his squad car while his bodycam was off after she called 911 over 'home intruder'
  • Justine Damond was shot dead by police after calling 911 on Saturday night
  • She had reportedly been speaking to police through the driver's side window
  • Damond was shot by officer sitting in the passenger seat through driver door
  • Mohamed Noor has been named as the officer who shot 40-year-old Australian
  • His lawyer Tom Plunkett confirmed he fired his weapon on Saturday night
  • City is steel reeling from the shooting death by cop of Philando Castille in 2016
  • She moved to Minnesota to marry 'rockstar love of her life', Don Damond, 50
  • Noor has two open complaints against him from 2017 and one from 2016

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Justine-Damond-identified.html#ixzz4n8M64DpJ
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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We may reach a point where we don't need traffic cops any more. That would actually be nice. But we're always going to need them to solve serious crimes.

Pretty sure some all C grade authoritarian shit bag isnt going to be solving crimes. Have you seen the work load for a criminal justice degree? Talk about underwater basketweaving. Softball degree.

Real detectives get real degrees and are on a different career path then some thug with a gun and a pension.
 

pmv

Lifer
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This is why I disagreed with the calls to arm all cops here (UK) after the Borough market attack.

It might save a few lives in the occasional (rare) terror attack, but there's another side to the equation. Not to mention that it's not just the deaths due directly to police shootings, there's what the whole situation does to the mentality of both the police and the policed.

(I guess people looking to go on holiday abroad now have to decide whether to risk being attacked by terrorists in Europe or shot by cops in the US. Best stay at home - flying is bad for the environment anyway)
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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well he is done. but if white cops can be afraid of black women then....


Honestly we need to change the training of these people. By the time they are done training they are scared shitless after watching all these cop death videos.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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well he is done. but if white cops can be afraid of black women then....


Honestly we need to change the training of these people. By the time they are done training they are scared shitless after watching all these cop death videos.

Well, if the law enforcement industry is as racist as the liberals want us to think: They are not gonna cover up a white womans murder for a Somali officer. They will throw him under the bus.
Or, if there really is a conspiracy of Owellian nature like Moonbeam thinks, then they will do something shady to make this issue go away.
 
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