THG sings Prescott's execution warrant

[joe2004]

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040517/index.html

So there is no advantage of Prescott over Northwood? Now why would anybody buy this microwave owen?

 

[LTC8K6]

There won't be any Northwoods to compete with it.

Prescott will probably get a little better with later steppings, too, and as SSE3 comes around.

 

[clarkey01]

its the 31 stage pipeline......doesnt matter how high you crank it

 

[clarkey01]

its the 31 stage pipeline......doesnt matter how high you crank it

 

[LTC8K6]

There's also Prescott's 64bitness.

 

[Soulkeeper]

very nice articles over at tom's
i could prob cool my prescott nearly that well with my 2 120watt pelts, but i doubt it would hit 4ghz
my only hope is for programs to become optimized for the prescott in ways that yeild atleast 10% performance/resource utilization improvements/speed increases/etc.

 

[clarkey01]

whats after prescott, pentium M for desktops ?

 

[LTC8K6]

Anandtech seemed to come to the opposite conclusion in their tests of Prescott vs Northwood.

We'll never know really though, because Prescott will not compete with Northwood for too much longer.

 

[clarkey01]

They might aswell just shrunk the northwood core to 0.9nm and slaped more cache on it

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: clarkey01
whats after prescott, pentium M for desktops ?

In Dual Core

 

[clarkey01]

You know its a waste of silicon when THG slag it off, being the NO.1 Intel fan boy sight, followed in 2nd place by overclockers.com lol

Why didnt they just shrink the northwood down to onto a 0.9 micron process ?
surely it would create more headroom for clock speed, maybe even tweak it a little bit and add a bit more cache, but it get harder to scale in Mhz with more cache on it.

 

[Alkaline5]

Originally posted by: clarkey01
Why didnt they just shrink the northwood down to onto a 0.9 micron process ?
surely it would create more headroom for clock speed, maybe even tweak it a little bit and add a bit more cache, but it get harder to scale in Mhz with more cache on it.

NetBurst was supposed to last them a decade, and Intel thought they were planning for the future with Prescott. Had they known what they know now, they probably would have stuck it out with enhanced Northwoods until the dual core Pentium-Ms are ready.

 

[clarkey01]

will duel core pentiums be a huge step up in terms of performance or is it all hype, isnt Itanium coming to the desktop in 2007 ?

 

[Big Lar]

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"You know its a waste of silicon when THG slag it off, being the NO.1 Intel fan boy sight, followed in 2nd place by overclockers.com lol"

I don't know about THG, but Overclockers.com is anything but a "fanboy" type place for Intel. Get your facts straight Junior.

 

[clarkey01]

a passing joke about a web site which is not the topic of this thread, lar lighten up

 

[clarkey01]

take a nap or something or cook yourself some dinner ontop of the prescott

 

[clarkey01]

back to the POINT of this thread

will duel core pentiums be a huge step up in terms of performance or is it all hype, isnt Itanium coming to the desktop in 2007 ?

 

[Acanthus]

Duel core is exactly what it implies, its 2 cores on one chip, and yes it will be a large performance increase over the single core version of the chip.

 

[klah]

Did they forget how to make graphs over there? Is this amateur hour?

 

[Falloutboy]

Originally posted by: clarkey01
will duel core pentiums be a huge step up in terms of performance or is it all hype, isnt Itanium coming to the desktop in 2007 ?

that was intels old plan tejas was supposed to have IA64. but AMD mucked that plan up for them and I guess it wasn't all that easy to do both IA64 and x86 on the same chip.

intels new plan? add x86-64 to pentium M. put two cores on it and call it a day and start R&D on a next generation part, since thier ditching netburst which was thier plan for the next 10 years.

My hope is amd is already on the ball and will have dual core chips out Q2 next year. and a total revamp of thier line in 2006

 

[AnnoyedGrunt]

I don't think that article was as conclusive (well, at least as surprising) as some are making it out to be.

My understsanding of the Prescott design was not that it would be able to be faster on a per-clock basis than Northwood, but that it would actually be able to be clocked significantly higher.

Now, I guess the jury is still out on whether Intel can reach their clock speed goals, but THG was able to get more overclocking out of the Prescott test chip than the Northwood one, so perhaps the design is not terribly bad (yea, yea, this is only one test sample, but still).

So, it seems to me this article isn't telling us anything that we shouldn't have already known if we had been paying attention for the last several months.

-D'oh!

 

[Soulkeeper]

well i suppose the 31 stage pipe or whatever was necesarry for the road to 4.5ghz 5ghz and up
I do think the prescott could still win the clock per clock comparison if it was outfitted with some other performance enhancing features in future cores.
Technology rocks !!, i'm enjoying the ride either way.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: clarkey01
back to the POINT of this thread

will duel core pentiums be a huge step up in terms of performance or is it all hype, isnt Itanium coming to the desktop in 2007 ?

Way to increase your post count...

 

[smp]

Originally posted by: Soulkeeper

Technology rocks !!, i'm enjoying the ride either way.

amen

 

[THUGSROOK]

Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
Technology rocks !!, i'm enjoying the ride either way.

the (free) ride is over ~ please step out of the car.