Thief 4 CPU benchmarks

[davie jambo]

I think its because you are not benchmarking the same area's in the game.

your numbers are fraps based and theirs from the benchmark?

Yeah when I ran the in game benchmark it is 50fps , it drops to the 50s during the cut scenes but gameplay is much higher

That still does not explain why a R9 290x is less than this with the same CPU. It really should be higher

CPU is not overclocked and it's a AS Rock 990fx motherboard (forget what model and revision)

8GB normal DDR3 1600 memory , game installed on an HDD , rather than SSD

14.1 drivers also

 

[AtenRa]

If ill find extra time tomorrow ill try a few CPUs with my 7950 @ 1GHz and let you know.

 

[davie jambo]

If ill find extra time tomorrow ill try a few CPUs with my 7950 @ 1GHz and let you know.

Bet you get higher benchmarks than those given for the 290x

My 7970 is a GHZ edition btw

 

[Makaveli]

Yeah when I ran the in game benchmark it is 50fps , it drops to the 50s during the cut scenes but gameplay is much higher

That still does not explain why a R9 290x is less than this with the same CPU. It really should be higher

CPU is not overclocked and it's a AS Rock 990fx motherboard (forget what model and revision)

8GB normal DDR3 1600 memory , game installed on an HDD , rather than SSD

14.1 drivers also

Maybe the difference is somewhere else in the system.

We should compile the specs of both machines and review them if someone has time.

 

[AtenRa]

OK got some results,

System 1
Core i7 920 (Default Clocks)
ASUS Rampage II Gene
3x 4GB DDR-3 1333MHz 9-9-9
Win 7 64Bit

System 2
Core i7 3770K (Default Clocks)
ASUS Maximus V Gene
2x 4GB DDR-3 1600MHz 9-9-9 Kingston LoVo
Win 8.1 64Bit

System 3
FX8350 (Default Clocks)
ASUS M5A97 R2.0
2x 4GB DDR-3 1866MHz 10-11-10
Win 8.1 64Bit

System 3
FX8150 (Default Clocks)
ASUS Corsair V Formula
2x 4GB DDR-3 1866MHz 10-11-10
Win 8.1 64Bit

System 4
A10-5800K (Default Clocks)
ASUS A88XM-Plus
2x 4GB DDR-3 1866MHz 10-11-10
Win 8.1 64Bit


Edit : systems 5 and 6 added (31-3-2014)

System 5
A10-7700K (Default Clocks)
ASROCK FM2A88X-ITX+
2x 4GB DDR-3 2133MHz 11-12-11
Win 8.1 64Bit

System 6
Core 2 Quad Q9450 (Default Clocks 2,66GHz)
ASUS Rampage Formula
2x 2GB DDR-2 1066MHz
Win 7 64Bit

GPU for all systems : ASUS HD7950 CU II - Core @ 1000MHz - Memory @ 1500MHz
Catalyst 14.2 Beta

I have used the in-game benchmark at 1080p with two Image Quality settings.
High with 16x AF but no SSAA and FXAA
Max as in Techspot review

 

[SlowSpyder]

Appreciate you running the benches, AtenRa. Vishera doesn't look too bad to me.

Do you have a Kill-a-Watt or some other power measuring device? I'm sure the FX rig will use more power than the Ivy rig. But when comparing total system power to total system power, my guess is the difference isn't really that large.

 

[AtenRa]

When ill get time ill measure power consumption too. I will also add more CPUs and update the graphs.

 

[jpiniero]

The 920 looks great when you consider it's age.

 

[AtenRa]

The 920 looks great when you consider it's age.

Yeap, at 3.8GHz and it still an amazing CPU even by today's standards.

 

[Makaveli]

Yeap, at 3.8GHz and it still an amazing CPU even by today's standards.

Agreed socket 1366 has been the longest lasting system for me in all my builds.

 

[Enigmoid]

AtenRa, are you being held back by the CPU? The 3770K is a good bit faster than the 920, the scant 12% you measured doesn't seem to agree with this.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Agreed socket 1366 has been the longest lasting system for me in all my builds.

I bought an AM2+ motherboard that saw three different Ph/PhII CPU's in it's life time. I got five and a half years out of that system ending with a hexcore. Something tells me the AM3+ upgrade path is going to look a little pale in comparison. :'(

 

[Makaveli]

I bought an AM2+ motherboard that saw three different Ph/PhII CPU's in it's life time. I got five and a half years out of that system ending with a hexcore. Something tells me the AM3+ upgrade path is going to look a little pale in comparison. :'(

I think you are right!

 

[inf64]

You got vishera @ 5Ghz, I don't think you have to worry about CPU upgrades for a while. Plus with DX12 and Mantle CPU will become ever less important so even people with slower quads will be able to see benefits of new GPU programing models.

 

[escrow4]

That 7950 is holding you back at maximum settings. You need a 290X like Techspot or a 780 Ti to let the CPUs breathe.

 

[Gikaseixas]

All of a sudden the impressive performance shown by the FX in the OP doesn't matter, what matters is the test showing FX doing poorly.
I game with both my PC's (sig) and while my 4770 is a monster, the FX is no slouch either, it puts great numbers and there's not one single game that i cannot run on it.
Benches are a great indication of performance but ultimately it is the user experience that will dictate how good a piece of hardware really is.
Many here never saw an FX in action and that tells a lot, wow.

 

[Gikaseixas]

That 7950 is holding you back at maximum settings. You need a 290X like Techspot or a 780 Ti to let the CPUs breathe.

That would allow the 3770 to run away, i agree
At the same time would not make the FX run slower, it too would see some increases for sure

 

[psolord]

I tried the built in benchmark on my systems and I was surprised to see that my 570 SLI scored around the same as 7950 Ghz. Usually 570 SLI is quite a bit faster.

I was surprised to see rig2 to run the game admirably, while rig 3 tanked. It was constantly loading from the HDD. They both have 4Gbs which is strange.

Could the extra 280MB of video ram of the 570s, make that huge of a difference in terms of resources storage, so rig2 does not have to load from the hdd?

 

[AtenRa]

System 2
Core i7 3770K (Default Clocks)
ASUS Maximus V Gene
2x 4GB DDR-3 1600MHz 9-9-9 Kingston LoVo
Win 8.1 64Bit

HD7950 @ 1GHz and Cat 14.2 Beta


The following series of pictures taken while the Benchmark was running will help you understand what is happening with the CPU and GPU.
On the left corner you can see the Minimum, Average and Current FPS. On the right the CPU/GPU utilization and Memory usage.
The first image is always with High Settings and the second with Max settings.

Enjoy


High Settings No SSAA/FXAA , 16x AF - Picture 1

Maximum Settings - 16x AF - Picture 1

High Settings No SSAA/FXAA , 16x AF - Picture 2

Maximum Settings - 16x AF - Picture 2

High Settings No SSAA/FXAA , 16x AF - Picture 3

Maximum Settings - 16x AF - Picture 3

High Settings No SSAA/FXAA , 16x AF - Picture 4

Maximum Settings - 16x AF - Picture 4

High Settings No SSAA/FXAA , 16x AF - Picture 5

Maximum Settings - 16x AF - Picture 5

 

[Enigmoid]

Thanks. Nice Job.

Looks like High is CPU bound while Maximum is completely GPU bound.

 

[AtenRa]

Thief CPU Scaling Overclocked

System 1
Core i7 920 @ 3.8GHz (BCLK 181MHz)
ASUS Rampage II Gene
3x 4GB DDR-3 1451MHz 9-9-9
Win 7 64Bit

System 2
Core i7 3770K @ 4444MHz (BCLK 101MHz)
ASUS Maximus V Gene
2x 4GB DDR-3 1616MHz 9-9-9 Kingston LoVo
Win 8.1 64Bit

System 3
FX8350 @ 4488MHz (204MHz) NB = 2400
ASUS M5A97 R2.0
2x 4GB DDR-3 1866MHz 10-11-10
Win 8.1 64Bit

System 3
FX8150 @ 4446MHz (247MHz ) NB = 2470
ASUS Corsair V Formula
2x 4GB DDR-3 2305MHz 11-12-12
Win 8.1 64Bit

System 4
A10-5800K @ 4.4GHz NB = 2400
ASUS A88XM-Plus
2x 4GB DDR-3 1866MHz 10-11-10
Win 8.1 64Bit


GPU for all systems : ASUS HD7950 CU II - Core @ 1000MHz - Memory @ 1500MHz
Catalyst 14.2 Beta




High Settings No SSAA/FXAA , 16x AF

Maximum Settings - 16x AF

 

[Headfoot]

Thanks for running these benches AtenRa. Crazy how the overclocked 5800k catches up with the 8150 being half the number of modules in a decently threaded game. Piledriver really stepped it up

 

[SPBHM]

Thanks for running these benches AtenRa. Crazy how the overclocked 5800k catches up with the 8150 being half the number of modules in a decently threaded game. Piledriver really stepped it up

you can't discount the L3 cache when comparing the 5800K to the 8350 for gaming, so I'm not sure it's all that "decently threaded" (difference is not only coming from the different number of modules), but yes, clearly Piledriver improved Bulldozer by a good margin.

 

[Headfoot]

you can't discount the L3 cache when comparing the 5800K to the 8350 for gaming, so I'm not sure it's all that "decently threaded" (difference is not only coming from the different number of modules), but yes, clearly Piledriver improved Bulldozer by a good margin.

Not talking about the 8350, talking about the 8150

 

[SPBHM]

Not talking about the 8350, talking about the 8150

I know, but I assumed you think the game is "decently threaded" because of the difference between the 8350 and 5800K, but as I said, you also need to consider the l3 cache.