So with SB not really building on intel's performance lead, this gives AMD a huge opportunity to come in and claim the performance crown. Not only that, but intel just handed them a huge chunk of the low-end market by eliminating overclocking on the i3.
I'm thinking that an 8-core Bulldozer will crush anything intel makes. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Did you by chance miss the benchmarks? 2500K puts a beating on a 1090T for the same money
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=146
I'm thinking that an 8-core Bulldozer will crush anything intel makes. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
I'm not talking about the current midrange or high end. Perhaps you need to re-read my OP.
Not only that, but intel just handed them a huge chunk of the low-end market by eliminating overclocking on the i3.
If AMD manages to "bulldoze" Intel I'm sure they'll be priced accordingly - high.
Not only that, but intel just handed them a huge chunk of the low-end market by eliminating overclocking on the i3.
that only happened in your mind. Come back in a few months with evidence of AMD picking up very large increases in cpu market share and I'll congratulate you. Till then, you are now Anandtech's resident AMD pipe dreamer
Anand Lal Shimpi said:All Intel is doing by enforcing clock locks for these lower end chips is sending potential customers AMD's way.
To the OP, try to not get too over-excited, I'm hoping for at least Nehalem from Bulldozer, and Sandy is a step-up from that.
It happened in Anand's mind as well. :whiste:
I'm thinking that AMD's low-end marketshare will increase.
Yeah, I'm sure Anand thinks that AMD will pick up this "huge chunk" like you claimed
So with SB not really building on intel's performance lead, this gives AMD a huge opportunity to come in and claim the performance crown. Not only that, but intel just handed them a huge chunk of the low-end market by eliminating overclocking on the i3.
I'm thinking that an 8-core Bulldozer will crush anything intel makes. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
SB does not really add anything to the high-end. Sure, its 4-core variant is as fast as the previous extreme edition 6 core chip, and it runs cooler. It's not faster, though. This is why I think AMD has an opportunity to at least catch up with intel performance-wise.I'm sorry, but it is pretty obvious you did not read any reviews of SB. What exactly was the point of this thread?
I could like to a number of reviews that state SB performance was exceptional, and power usage was even better. At this point, I doubt you would take the time to read them anyway, so I will let you google them on your own, if you so choose.
*hint* 4-core SB completely owns any benchmarks that 6-core AMD chips used to have, and the 2500k (~$200) is a better CPU than ANYTHING AMD has. The i3-2100 (dual-core) is also better than most X4 processors as well.
If anything, SB really met the expectations that it had (lofty as they were). Get the K models though, you don't want to miss out on the crazy OCs on these...
SB does not really add anything to the high-end. Sure, its 4-core variant is as fast as the previous extreme edition 6 core chip, and it runs cooler. It's not faster, though. This is why I think AMD has an opportunity to at least catch up with intel performance-wise.
I'm just saying that SB is going to open things up for AMD at the low end, and they have a chance to take back the performance crown with an 8-core Bulldozer. One would think that with all this time and research, Bulldozer will be at least 25% faster than the current Phenom II's clock-for-clock.
SB does not really add anything to the high-end. Sure, its 4-core variant is as fast as the previous extreme edition 6 core chip, and it runs cooler. It's not faster, though. This is why I think AMD has an opportunity to at least catch up with intel performance-wise.
I'm just saying that SB is going to open things up for AMD at the low end, and they have a chance to take back the performance crown with an 8-core Bulldozer. One would think that with all this time and research, Bulldozer will be at least 25% faster than the current Phenom II's clock-for-clock.
I have an issue with writing before i read
Bulldozer will have to compete against the high end sandy bridge when they are released at the end of the year. I don't see AMD taking the performance crown from Intel after they are released. But, maybe they do and then you will have to pay $999 for a black edition.
Bulldozer will also have to be more than 25% faster than current Phenom II products to retake the performance crown. My Q9450 stands up to the 1100T (1100T win in highly threaded apps of course) and the new 2600K destroys my Q9450 across the board.
We're being gouged at the top-end by Intel too, like I've already said today both companies do it.
Top-end here in the UK is £804.08 ($1246.32) and it's all because of no competition at that level.
We should all be hoping for more competition, should be hoping Bulldozer catches up, and that Sandy/Ivy trade blows with Bulldozer.
SB does not really add anything to the high-end. Sure, its 4-core variant is as fast as the previous extreme edition 6 core chip, and it runs cooler. It's not faster, though. This is why I think AMD has an opportunity to at least catch up with intel performance-wise.
I'm just saying that SB is going to open things up for AMD at the low end, and they have a chance to take back the performance crown with an 8-core Bulldozer. One would think that with all this time and research, Bulldozer will be at least 25% faster than the current Phenom II's clock-for-clock.