Things Bush has done RIGHT

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: tomywishbone
He's put millions in hs pockets, and billions in the pockets of his supporters. Nobody with the last name "bush" ,"cheney", "rumsfield" will ever have to work a day in their life. He has insured the millionaires and billionaires of the US will remain isolated from the masses, and it's clear, that's what they want... hell, I'd want the same.

And neither will those with the last name Clinton, Pelosi, Kennedy, or Gore.

:roll:

At least those did it without cherry picking info to drive our country into a war and occupation.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Tax Cuts, although they were offset by extreme spending from Congress. So eventually our taxes will be raised due to the last 6 years. Sort of muddies the usefulness of it. :frown:

Yep, too bad neither party believes in cutting spending.

Cutting taxes while spending is worse than not cutting taxes while spending.

 

[Uhtrinity]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I think he does a good job of pulling the country together at times like 9-11 and Va Tech etc.

He really comes across as being compassionate and concerned.
(Although nobody in my life time comes close to the ability Reagan had at connecting with people.)

yeah, did a good job at bringing the country and the world together, then blowing it by taking partisan politics to whole new level and screwing up international relations. :thumbsdown:

 

[deepred98]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: deepred98
imo the gov should make money through tariffs and duties instead of income taxes so i think any cut in income taxes for anyone is good

just my opinion though, i'm sure i'm oversimplifiying the issue though

Bush's war has left us with present and future debts that will exceed a trillion dollars and more deficits from his ill advised tax cuts for the very wealthy. Please explain how your oversimplified, underinformed concept of governmental revenues will cover that.

uhh... i wasn't refering to the present state of affairs and the huge hole that bush has dug us, i'm simply stating my opinion that tax cuts are good

anyways tax cuts have not created the debt, extravagant spending and funding a prolonged and essentially losing war is what has caused the debt

 

[Kerouactivist]

Marine sanctuary

although, I'm extremely angry with how he has handled the NPS and public lands in general.....


By far one of the top 5 worst administrations ever.....it will take YEARS to recover from the damage this administration has done....on so many levels....

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Aimster
He didn't fire government employees when he took office. Gore was going to do it.

He has a very diverse cabinet.

Don't know much about it, but according to my family Bush has helped them with the home. Someone explain more?

Good point, I forgot about that (in bold).

He appointed two blacks to the most powerful none elected position in government.

You mean Uncle Tom and Aunt Jemima?

How did so many people miss this blatant racism?

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Aimster
He didn't fire government employees when he took office. Gore was going to do it.

He has a very diverse cabinet.

Don't know much about it, but according to my family Bush has helped them with the home. Someone explain more?

Good point, I forgot about that (in bold).

He appointed two blacks to the most powerful none elected position in government.

You mean Uncle Tom and Aunt Jemima?

How did so many people miss this blatant racism?

He's on the left he is allowed to by racist, but it is a shame no one noticed or said a thing.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Aimster
He didn't fire government employees when he took office. Gore was going to do it.

He has a very diverse cabinet.

Don't know much about it, but according to my family Bush has helped them with the home. Someone explain more?

Good point, I forgot about that (in bold).

He appointed two blacks to the most powerful none elected position in government.

You mean Uncle Tom and Aunt Jemima?

How did so many people miss this blatant racism?

He's on the left he is allowed to by racist, but it is a shame no one noticed or said a thing.

Don't forget that minority Republicans don't count as actual minorities.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Aimster
He didn't fire government employees when he took office. Gore was going to do it.

He has a very diverse cabinet.

Don't know much about it, but according to my family Bush has helped them with the home. Someone explain more?

Good point, I forgot about that (in bold).

He appointed two blacks to the most powerful none elected position in government.

You mean Uncle Tom and Aunt Jemima?

How did so many people miss this blatant racism?

He's on the left he is allowed to by racist, but it is a shame no one noticed or said a thing.

You do realize they were called that years ago bu 'not jpeyton'. As in specifically Powell and Rice, as in a political statement, that definitely generated some significant controversy? as in..

*checks to be sure*

If you type 'uncle tom and aunt jemima' in google (no quotes, no need to mention powell or rice) the first several results refer to this incident?

 

[Fineghal]

He got tax cuts in before all of those economic shocks. (Tech stock crash, 9/11 etc.) Even the Fed can't cut interest rates indefinitely to stave off economic recession. Mr. Bush had something to do with that too.

Ironically, I disagree with his tax cuts, but there it is.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Done right? Guess that depends on your perspective.

If you're very wealthy and if you are tired of that pesky middle class demanding higher wages and better working conditions, well then by golly Bush has done a great job by helping to transform the nation into a third world country where you can be part of the 1% that lives behind gated walls and body guards while everyone else suffers in third world poverty and squalor. Some of those people will work for you as essentially slaves for peanuts.

 

[charrison]

-tax cuts
-new restrictions on off road diesels
-included large suvs in new cafe standard, even though cafe is useless
-appointed what appear to be good SCOTUS judges
-pushed for free trade
- energy bill with a refocus on nuclear power, and included money wind and solar. Otherwise it was a pork fest
-pushed for SS reform
-health savings accounts

-healthy forests, our forest policy was severely broken
-clear skies, the oldest and dirtiest coal plants are now cleaning up as they are no longer grandfathered


That is all I can think off of the top of my head.

 

[HombrePequeno]

I liked a few things he's done for energy. Easing the restrictions on nuclear was good and opening money for biodiesel was also pretty good.

Can't really say much else though.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: JD50
Tax cuts

You must be one of the top 1% in earnings, or you'd know how wrong that answer is. :thumbsdown:

Oh really? I bet you benefited from the tax cuts.

 

[ericlp]

Originally posted by: BrownTown
Refocused energy policy on nuclear energy. Honestly that the only one I can think of.

I can think of one more... But, I think it was an ooops brain spasm or something...

Passed a tax credit for solar energy...

Edit....

I mean, he is bound to slip up a few times and do a few things right...

I mean for christ sakes he's been our president for eight fuc**** years... It's a long time and the list should be like 100 times as big... He's still a frigen dope and a loser...

 

[zuljinAF]

well I haven't seen these yet:

Higher pay raises for the military
Increased spending for better gear
basically un fVck the damage done by another prez. *cough* Clinton *cough*

 

[thraashman]

Originally posted by: zuljinAF
well I haven't seen these yet:

Higher pay raises for the military
Increased spending for better gear
basically un fVck the damage done by another prez. *cough* Clinton *cough*

um, you see the problem there is that Clinton didn't need to spend a ton on the military, he didn't go around starting wars. There's really no need to spend excessively on military during times of peace.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: charrison
-tax cuts
-new restrictions on off road diesels
-included large suvs in new cafe standard, even though cafe is useless
-appointed what appear to be good SCOTUS judges
-pushed for free trade
- energy bill with a refocus on nuclear power, and included money wind and solar. Otherwise it was a pork fest
-pushed for SS reform
-health savings accounts

-healthy forests, our forest policy was severely broken
-clear skies, the oldest and dirtiest coal plants are now cleaning up as they are no longer grandfathered


That is all I can think off of the top of my head.

"-pushed for SS reform "

How is this considered the good things? Anyone could "push" for anything.. he had the chance to actually get reform done.. he had a huge majority in both houses and couldn't even do a reform of SS!

 

[thraashman]

Originally posted by: charrison
-tax cuts
I don't think the tax cuts were actually a good idea, but some people like them and yes they were his pet project
-new restrictions on off road diesels
-included large suvs in new cafe standard, even though cafe is useless
I do agree that SUVs need to have a better fuel efficiency standard than they've had in the past
-appointed what appear to be good SCOTUS judges
I strongly disagree with this statement, I don't think either was a good choice, there needs to be more moderates on the court, not fewer
-pushed for free trade
I don't know if I think free trade is a great idea .... then again I never took economics
- energy bill with a refocus on nuclear power, and included money wind and solar. Otherwise it was a pork fest
I don't think nuclear is the way to go because you have extensive waste there, but wind and solar is good stuff
-pushed for SS reform
Nothing has yet come from this, but yes it does need reform and more attention.
-health savings accounts

-healthy forests, our forest policy was severely broken
-clear skies, the oldest and dirtiest coal plants are now cleaning up as they are no longer grandfathered


That is all I can think off of the top of my head.

My notes inline.

And I will at least praise Bush for the Marine reserve. I won't praise him for things I think any president should do or any human should do. My list of things I feel Bush has done wrong is significantly longer, but that is not the purpose of this thread, so I won't go there.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: JD50
Why is it that you are unable to understand the concept of cutting spending? The Republicans spending is out of control and one of the main reasons why I am no longer a Republican. Unfortunately, Democrats aren't going to do much better.

We seriously need to form a new libertarian party, out of disgruntled Republicans like us. This way, both Dems and Reps can hate/slander us.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
Marine sanctuary off Hawaii & tax cuts. Mars program would've been nice if he had walked the walk on it.

Marine sanctuary is an unmitigated good.

There's ample disagreement as to whether the tax cuts will be a net benefit given they are essentially deficit dollars and precluded debate about reform of SS/Medicare (which have associated transitional costs). In essence, Bush sold a fantasy plan of tax cuts that would pay for themselves through increased growth. Unfortunately, GDP growth was BELOW historical post-recession norms, real income growth has stagnated . . . about the only thing that has grown rapidly is government spending.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Aimster
He didn't fire government employees when he took office. Gore was going to do it.

He has a very diverse cabinet.

Don't know much about it, but according to my family Bush has helped them with the home. Someone explain more?

Good point, I forgot about that (in bold).

He appointed two blacks to the most powerful none elected position in government.

You mean Uncle Tom and Aunt Jemima?

I'm sure you'll get a pass on this racist remark, because it was aimed at conservative blacks. They dont fit into your mold for what blacks are supposed to be, angry and poor with their hand out, so I guess they are fair game.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Colin Powell doesn't deserve Uncle Tom. He realized he was being 'used' for ill-purpose so he respectfully left. IMO, he showed too much loyalty to Bush (as opposed to his country) but that's what happens you spend most of your life taking orders.

Rice DEFINITELY deserves Aunt Jemima. She adds 'color' to the room and 'serves' but she's no leader.

I would say both EARNED their positions but neither wielded any real power b/c the white men kept them on a short leash. No one with any common sense or perspective on the past 6+ years would claim US foreign policy was run by Powell or Rice.

I consider these appointments to be definitive negatives. He appointed one supremely qualified person (Powell) and one marginally qualified (Rice) to Secretary of State . . . then he turned US foreign policy over to Cheney, Rumsfeld, and their PNAC ilk. Granted, I guess Powell contributed to his fall b/c he turned down the post of Secretary of Defense. I wonder how it would have turned out if Secretary Powell would have said attacking Iraq made neither foreign policy NOR military sense?

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Aimster
He didn't fire government employees when he took office. Gore was going to do it.

He has a very diverse cabinet.

Don't know much about it, but according to my family Bush has helped them with the home. Someone explain more?

Good point, I forgot about that (in bold).

He appointed two blacks to the most powerful none elected position in government.

Why does that matter? Just because they're black doesn't mean they're not a$$holes.

I'm pretty sure that they picked two blacks as a stunt, anyway.

 

[zuljinAF]

Originally posted by: thraashman

Originally posted by: zuljinAF
well I haven't seen these yet:

Higher pay raises for the military
Increased spending for better gear
basically un fVck the damage done by another prez. *cough* Clinton *cough*

um, you see the problem there is that Clinton didn't need to spend a ton on the military, he didn't go around starting wars. There's really no need to spend excessively on military during times of peace.

yes, thats why we have to spend so much now.... thanks to clinton most of our gear was out of date and run down.... so when it has to be used it breaks...

One thing i forgot before President Bush I knew troops that qualifed for food stamps... why the heck should our soldiers be paid so little that they have to get food stamps! The targeted pay raises helped change that.

U may dissagree but I know from the inside that moral is higher now with President Bush than it ever was with clinton.. as for the war... in my unit there is never a shortage of people ready to volenteer to deploy.. heck I volenteered.. and i know first had the media is biased about what they report.. for every death there are twice as many victories... Everytime i leave i post i hear "yeah america", "thank you, thank you," and other such comments.

And there is the old saying that goes something like... the best way to keep peace is to pre-pare for war It worked for the cold war...