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Harvey

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Originally posted by: zuljinAF
basically un fVck the damage done by another prez. *cough* Clinton *cough*
That wouldn't come close to unfscking the damage done by the current Criminal In Chief. :thumbsdown: :frown: :thumbsdown:
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: JD50
Tax cuts
You must be one of the top 1% in earnings, or you'd know how wrong that answer is. :thumbsdown:

Oh really? I bet you benefited from the tax cuts.
Please, please... PLEE-E-E-EZE tell me how much you're willing to bet. I could use the income.

Please make the bet big enough that your payoff will be enough that I'll benefit from it next tax season. Make it at least $100,000, and I'll give you any odds you want, as long as you base it on my actual tax returns. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 

zuljinAF

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zuljinAF
well I haven't seen these yet:

Higher pay raises for the military
Increased spending for better gear

basically un fVck the damage done by another prez. *cough* Clinton *cough*

How much is the GOP paying you for your posts?


Well all together the GOP and the DEMS pay me enough to get by, but i post for free (just not often)..but if u really want to know look up military pay charts for an O-3 you'll get some ideas

At lest the current COMANDER in Chief hasn't done anything that would get him court marshaled under the UCMJ...


 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: zuljinAF
Well all together the GOP and the DEMS pay me enough to get by, but i post for free (just not often)..but if u really want to know look up military pay charts for an O-3 you'll get some ideas

At lest the current COMANDER in Chief hasn't done anything that would get him court marshaled under the UCMJ...
Except for TREASON for his wholesale shredding of the rights of every American citizen under the U.S. Constitution and a few violations of the Geneva Conventions against torture, which violate both U.S. and international law. :thumbsdown: :frown: :thumbsdown:

This entire adminstration should also be charged with the murder of every American who has died in their war of lies. I would hope those offenses would also violate the UCMJ.

You're an O-3, and that's the best they've taught you to spell and write? Obviously, our military is stretched even worse than I thought. :roll:
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: JD50
Tax cuts
You must be one of the top 1% in earnings, or you'd know how wrong that answer is. :thumbsdown:

I'm not , but the tax cuts surely helped me, especially the passage of the state sales tax deduction.

Also, the fact that he hasn't stepped in and threw around laws forbidding free speech and expression (see Clinton era to know what I'm talking about).

Pushed for more stringent welfare regulations.

Took a killing dictator out of power.

Approved the construction of a fence along the border and moved National Guard there, as well. Just a start, more needed.

Refused to sign the Kyoto agreement.

Condaleeza Rice.

For you EEOC nuts out there, probably the most ethnically diverse cabinet in history.

Pushed for privatizing a portion of SS. Too bad too many people believed in the scaremongering tactics of the left.

Allowed limited testing with stem cells.

Banned partial birth abortion (Supreme Court held up that law today).

Reversed policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions.

The Teacher Protection Act.

Helped guide (with Bernanke appointment, tax cuts, loan to airlines, etc) economy to better than pre-911 levels after the huge fallout from 911.

Prohibited putting US troops under UN command - Remember this one?

Substantially increased aid to Africa for combatting AIDS.

Pushed for opening up Alaska to more drilling. Unfortunately, more leftist fearmongering shut this down.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Fineghal
He got tax cuts in before all of those economic shocks. (Tech stock crash, 9/11 etc.) Even the Fed can't cut interest rates indefinitely to stave off economic recession. Mr. Bush had something to do with that too.

Ironically, I disagree with his tax cuts, but there it is.

tech stock crash happened right as he took office. Remember, most people immediately starting blaming Bush for the economy and he hadn't even been in office for a year.
 

Red Dawn

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Threw a strike in the World Series Game right after 9/11
Accepted Rummy's and Ashcrofts resignations
 

thraashman

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: JD50
Tax cuts
You must be one of the top 1% in earnings, or you'd know how wrong that answer is. :thumbsdown:

I'm not , but the tax cuts surely helped me, especially the passage of the state sales tax deduction.

Also, the fact that he hasn't stepped in and threw around laws forbidding free speech and expression (see Clinton era to know what I'm talking about).

Pushed for more stringent welfare regulations.

Took a killing dictator out of power.

Approved the construction of a fence along the border and moved National Guard there, as well. Just a start, more needed.

Refused to sign the Kyoto agreement.

Condaleeza Rice.

For you EEOC nuts out there, probably the most ethnically diverse cabinet in history.

Pushed for privatizing a portion of SS. Too bad too many people believed in the scaremongering tactics of the left.

Allowed limited testing with stem cells.

Banned partial birth abortion (Supreme Court held up that law today).

Reversed policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions.

The Teacher Protection Act.

Helped guide (with Bernanke appointment, tax cuts, loan to airlines, etc) economy to better than pre-911 levels after the huge fallout from 911.

Prohibited putting US troops under UN command - Remember this one?

Substantially increased aid to Africa for combatting AIDS.

Pushed for opening up Alaska to more drilling. Unfortunately, more leftist fearmongering shut this down.

Figured I'd bold the ones that were BLATANTLY actually things he's done wrong, not right. And truthfully, maybe if US troops were under UN command, they wouldn't torture prisoners so much. But I chose not to bold that one.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: zuljinAF
Well all together the GOP and the DEMS pay me enough to get by, but i post for free (just not often)..but if u really want to know look up military pay charts for an O-3 you'll get some ideas

At lest the current COMANDER in Chief hasn't done anything that would get him court marshaled under the UCMJ...
Except for TREASON

Perspective defines reality. Your tone of treason rings back to you just as loudly for all the venom you spit.

When they say violence begets violence, that?s merely a reflection of the laws of physics. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Your hated itself sparks hatred of you.
 

zuljinAF

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: zuljinAF
Well all together the GOP and the DEMS pay me enough to get by, but i post for free (just not often)..but if u really want to know look up military pay charts for an O-3 you'll get some ideas

At lest the current COMANDER in Chief hasn't done anything that would get him court marshaled under the UCMJ...
Except for TREASON for his wholesale shredding of the rights of every American citizen under the U.S. Constitution and a few violations of the Geneva Conventions against torture, which violate both U.S. and international law. :thumbsdown: :frown: :thumbsdown:

This entire adminstration should also be charged with the murder of every American who has died in their war of lies. I would hope those offenses would also violate the UCMJ.

You're an O-3, and that's the best they've taught you to spell and write? Obviously, our military is stretched even worse than I thought. :roll:



Eh, I don't think my rights have been shredded, nor do any of my friends or family... I still go about my life as normal... if the Patriot Act prevents one act of terrorism so be it, fair trade off in my opinion. And TBQH most people will never the truth to what type of information is found out via the Patriot Act due to classification reasons. Unless of course you think the Gov't should just make everything unclassified ??..

Also the Geneva Convention applies to POW's....not suspected terrorist. Not that I agree with torture but I also don't agree with videos of people getting their heads cut off. That and I bet there has been some sort of torture of an individual in the name of national security under 90% of the presidents we have had.

As for murder? Nope, we all took the Oath on our own and are following lawful orders, those that fail to do so should be dealt with though. Have mistakes in the war been made, sure. Do I agree with everything he has done as President? Not a chance but he has been one of the best ones in my life time.


as for my writing...*shrug* I just don't care enough to carefully edit an internet posting.

Lastly for the record I don't consider myself a Rep or Dem just a US Citizen.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: zuljinAF
Have mistakes in the war been made, sure. Do I agree with everything he has done as President? Not a chance but he has been one of the best ones in my life time.
He's one of the worse in my lifetime and I go back to Ike.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: bthorny
Marine sanctuary

although, I'm extremely angry with how he has handled the NPS and public lands in general.....


By far one of the top 5 worst administrations ever.....it will take decades to recover from the damage this administration has done....on so many levels....
Fixed
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: thraashman
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: JD50
Tax cuts
You must be one of the top 1% in earnings, or you'd know how wrong that answer is. :thumbsdown:

I'm not , but the tax cuts surely helped me, especially the passage of the state sales tax deduction.

Also, the fact that he hasn't stepped in and threw around laws forbidding free speech and expression (see Clinton era to know what I'm talking about).

Pushed for more stringent welfare regulations.

Took a killing dictator out of power.

Approved the construction of a fence along the border and moved National Guard there, as well. Just a start, more needed.

Refused to sign the Kyoto agreement.

Condaleeza Rice.

For you EEOC nuts out there, probably the most ethnically diverse cabinet in history.

Pushed for privatizing a portion of SS. Too bad too many people believed in the scaremongering tactics of the left.

Allowed limited testing with stem cells.

Banned partial birth abortion (Supreme Court held up that law today).

Reversed policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions.

The Teacher Protection Act.

Helped guide (with Bernanke appointment, tax cuts, loan to airlines, etc) economy to better than pre-911 levels after the huge fallout from 911.

Prohibited putting US troops under UN command - Remember this one?

Substantially increased aid to Africa for combatting AIDS.

Pushed for opening up Alaska to more drilling. Unfortunately, more leftist fearmongering shut this down.

Figured I'd bold the ones that were BLATANTLY actually things he's done wrong, not right. And truthfully, maybe if US troops were under UN command, they wouldn't torture prisoners so much. But I chose not to bold that one.

Isn't having an opinion fun?

And it's nice to see where you stand on US sovereignty and the troops.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: zuljinAF
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: zuljinAF
Well all together the GOP and the DEMS pay me enough to get by, but i post for free (just not often)..but if u really want to know look up military pay charts for an O-3 you'll get some ideas

At lest the current COMANDER in Chief hasn't done anything that would get him court marshaled under the UCMJ...
Except for TREASON for his wholesale shredding of the rights of every American citizen under the U.S. Constitution and a few violations of the Geneva Conventions against torture, which violate both U.S. and international law. :thumbsdown: :frown: :thumbsdown:

This entire adminstration should also be charged with the murder of every American who has died in their war of lies. I would hope those offenses would also violate the UCMJ.

You're an O-3, and that's the best they've taught you to spell and write? Obviously, our military is stretched even worse than I thought. :roll:



Eh, I don't think my rights have been shredded, nor do any of my friends or family... I still go about my life as normal... if the Patriot Act prevents one act of terrorism so be it, fair trade off in my opinion. And TBQH most people will never the truth to what type of information is found out via the Patriot Act due to classification reasons. Unless of course you think the Gov't should just make everything unclassified ??..

Also the Geneva Convention applies to POW's....not suspected terrorist. Not that I agree with torture but I also don't agree with videos of people getting their heads cut off. That and I bet there has been some sort of torture of an individual in the name of national security under 90% of the presidents we have had.

As for murder? Nope, we all took the Oath on our own and are following lawful orders, those that fail to do so should be dealt with though. Have mistakes in the war been made, sure. Do I agree with everything he has done as President? Not a chance but he has been one of the best ones in my life time.


as for my writing...*shrug* I just don't care enough to carefully edit an internet posting.

Lastly for the record I don't consider myself a Rep or Dem just a US Citizen.

Congrats on being such an articulate 6 1/2 year old. :thumbsup:
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: deepred98

imo the gov should make money through tariffs and duties instead of income taxes so i think any cut in income taxes for anyone is good
)

uuuggghhh, what a terrible idea. You ever taken an econ course?
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Aimster
He didn't fire government employees when he took office. Gore was going to do it.

He has a very diverse cabinet.

Don't know much about it, but according to my family Bush has helped them with the home. Someone explain more?
Good point, I forgot about that (in bold).
He appointed two blacks to the most powerful none elected position in government.
You mean Uncle Tom and Aunt Jemima?

I'm sure you'll get a pass on this racist remark, because it was aimed at conservative blacks. They dont fit into your mold for what blacks are supposed to be, angry and poor with their hand out, so I guess they are fair game.
what he said is probably less racist than what you just said. The only blacks you accept are ones that accept your middle-class white culture, and if they don't they are just "angry and poor with their hands out" Projection ftw.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Aimster
He didn't fire government employees when he took office. Gore was going to do it.

He has a very diverse cabinet.

Don't know much about it, but according to my family Bush has helped them with the home. Someone explain more?
Good point, I forgot about that (in bold).
He appointed two blacks to the most powerful none elected position in government.
You mean Uncle Tom and Aunt Jemima?
How did so many people miss this blatant racism?
Nobody missed it because it's right on the mark. Powell already publicly stated his regret in being the Bush administration's lap dog on the run-up to Iraq. Rice? She has no regret; she's a crony through and through.

This administration has a long-standing reputation of appointing people who can a) serve the interests of the administration without question and b) protect the administration above one's self.

I guess you're now going to tell us how great of a pick Alberto Gonzales was, being of Hispanic descent? :roll: Another 'yes man' in racially diverse clothing.

And BTW, before you start making an ass out of yourself by calling me a racist, do a little research.

Uncle Tom is a pejorative for an African American who is perceived by others as behaving in a subservient manner to White American authority figures, or as seeking ingratiation with them by way of unnecessary accommodation.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: zuljinAF
Eh, I don't think my rights have been shredded, nor do any of my friends or family... I still go about my life as normal... if the Patriot Act prevents one act of terrorism so be it, fair trade off in my opinion. And TBQH most people will never the truth to what type of information is found out via the Patriot Act due to classification reasons. Unless of course you think the Gov't should just make everything unclassified ??..
You would have done well in the third riech or working for Stalin. There may still be a good job for you in Russia if Putin continues the way he's going.
Also the Geneva Convention applies to POW's....not suspected terrorist. Not that I agree with torture but I also don't agree with videos of people getting their heads cut off. That and I bet there has been some sort of torture of an individual in the name of national security under 90% of the presidents we have had.
Well, that's one line of consumate bullsh8 you can use to try to defend der wannabe führer. However, your idiot's bet doesn't hold up to the U.S. Constitution, international law, or even human civility. No wrong by any previous President justifies further wrong by the current Asshole In Chief, and you don't defeat evil by becoming the evil you claim you are seeking to defeat.
As for murder? Nope, we all took the Oath on our own and are following lawful orders, those that fail to do so should be dealt with though.
Thanks for making the point. The entire war is the Bushwhackos' crime. Every one of their ever shifting, ever evasive excuses for starting it was a lie.
  • The "intelligence" fed to Congress and the American people was cherry picked and directed from the top.
  • Rumsfeld set his own parallel "intelligence" operation within DOD when the CIA and FBI couldn't tell him what he wanted to hear.
  • There was no yellow cake uraniium in Niger.
  • There were no aluminum tubes capable of being used in centrifuges process nuclear material.
  • There were no facilities for making nerve gas or biological weapons.
  • There were no long range rockets.
  • There were no WMD's.
They ignored any information from competent internal sources that ran counter to their ambitions:
  • They ignored all warnings about the possiblity of an attack like 9/11, despite explicit warnings from people like Richard Clarke, former terrorisim advisor to Presidents Reagan, Bush Sr. and Clinton. Richard Clarke also warned Bush that Saddam probably was not tied to 9/11.

    The Bushwhackos didn't want to hear that so they did what any good exec would do -- They fired him.
  • They claimed their pre-war planning included plenty of troops to handle foreseeable problems in the aftermath of their invasion, despite warnings from Army Chief of Staff, Eric Shinseki that they would need around 400,000 troops to do the job.

    The Bushwhackos administration didn't want to hear that so they did what any good exec would do -- They fired him.
  • Before Bush started his war of lies, Ambassador Joseph Wilson was sent to Niger to investigate reports that Saddam was trying to buy yellow cake uranium. He returned and informed that the reports were false.

    The Bushwhackos administration didn't want to hear that so they did what any good adminstration would do. They outed his wife, Valerie Plame's identity as a covert CIA operative, blowing off her value to our national security and endangering her life and the lives of everyone who ever worked with her anywhere in the world.
I hope they're all hauled before the World Court and tried for Crimes Against Humanity.
Have mistakes in the war been made, sure.
Those weren't "mistakes." They were intentional and planned.
Do I agree with everything he has done as President? Not a chance but he has been one of the best ones in my life time.
We've heard that lame excuse before. We know... You vas only following orderz. Now click your heels, und goose step on out of here. :frown:
Lastly for the record I don't consider myself a Rep or Dem just a US Citizen.
And you're doing a piss poor job of it. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
*crickets*

I think a couple of people owe jpeyton an apology.
For?

For accusing him of being racist, because he referenced a well-known incident.
No apologies needed; I enjoy it when the opposition belittles their own intelligence.
 
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