Things that probably wouldn't exist today if not for the hip hop culture?

[SoundTheSurrender]

BET.

Language I can't understand.

 

[wahoyaho]

black ppl

 

[fierydemise]

Gizoogle

 

[RaistlinZ]

MTV


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[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
MTV


/thread

Blah, that would still be here, and be just as bad.

 

[elmro]

flavor of love

 

[PottedMeat]

Grillz

Spinnaz

Cadillac Snoop De Ville

what else...

 

[jhbball]

Reverse racism threads.

 

[Ricemarine]

The Korean hip hop movement?

 

[MBrown]

Gangs thugs and crime were around long before hip hop came to the scene so don't start blaming all of this on the rap music and such.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
MTV


/thread

MTV started in 1981. They didn't have their first hip hop themed show until 1988 (Yo! MTV Raps). When I used to watch MTV, it was mostly rock/pop music. Then rappers discovered the fisheye lens and it was all downhill from there. MTV would be fine without hip hop.

 

[aberdeen5]

global warming
cancer
war

 

[irishScott]

A lot of social problems.

 

[LS20]

Originally posted by: irishScott
A lot of social problems.

like eric harris and dylan klebold?

oh, sorry, wrong genre :roll:

 

[Mo0o]

-Pointless finger pointing of social woes on a genre of music

... oh wait that's always happened

 

[EGGO]

Scion

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: Raduque
The Escalade?

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: flunky nassau
Millions of unknown 60s/70s jazz, funk, soul, & rock artists being brought to light. I'm not talking about Al Green, Marvin Gaye & those already known, but now you see reissues of albums by Marvin Holmes, the Lightmen, McNeal & Niles etc. All this great music being brought to the forefront as the result of hiphop producers diggin' for obscure artists to find that perfect sample.

I have about 3000 jazz/funk/soul records from the 70's all because of hiphop. I started by being interested who these artists sampled & diggin for those records. In the process I fell in love with the music. Multiply this by a million & you have a whole vinyl sub-culture all because of hiphop. Don't believe me? Visit www.soulstrut.com
Hundreds of thousands of people on this site worldwide interested in vinyl, 70's artists & hiphop.

This is the side of hiphop few people know about.
A lot of house, drum & bass, electronic producers got their feet wet by making hiphop beats & vice versa.

For those who think hiphop only contributed to mysogeny & violene, you guys need to do more research. MTV, BET, & the radio only promote less than 15% of the hiphop out there.

You're the minority. You realize that don't you?

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: nboy22
Stupid baggy clothing that goes all the way down to your knees, half of teenagers asses hanging out of their pants.

..comes from prison. the inside is out.

And what culture glorifies/glamorizes prison life?

 

[BUTCH1]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: flunky nassau
Millions of unknown 60s/70s jazz, funk, soul, & rock artists being brought to light. I'm not talking about Al Green, Marvin Gaye & those already known, but now you see reissues of albums by Marvin Holmes, the Lightmen, McNeal & Niles etc. All this great music being brought to the forefront as the result of hiphop producers diggin' for obscure artists to find that perfect sample.

I have about 3000 jazz/funk/soul records from the 70's all because of hiphop. I started by being interested who these artists sampled & diggin for those records. In the process I fell in love with the music. Multiply this by a million & you have a whole vinyl sub-culture all because of hiphop. Don't believe me? Visit www.soulstrut.com
Hundreds of thousands of people on this site worldwide interested in vinyl, 70's artists & hiphop.

This is the side of hiphop few people know about.
A lot of house, drum & bass, electronic producers got their feet wet by making hiphop beats & vice versa.

For those who think hiphop only contributed to mysogeny & violene, you guys need to do more research. MTV, BET, & the radio only promote less than 15% of the hiphop out there.

You're the minority. You realize that don't you?

At least your getting an understanding about what good music sounds like. It's like the producers know that no one around
now will ever compare to the real talent of Stevie Wonder, Smokey Robinson, War, Earth wind and fire to name just a few.
That generation of music was meant for EVERYBODY, not just the bling crowd. I guess we were lucky. we got "Inner Visions"
you got " 50 Cent", my condolences....

 

[Xstatic1]

hip hop brought forth both good & bad, but over the years, hip hop's "rep" (thanks to gansta rap) has gotten worse.

 

[Xstatic1]

Originally posted by: BUTCH1

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: flunky nassau
Millions of unknown 60s/70s jazz, funk, soul, & rock artists being brought to light. I'm not talking about Al Green, Marvin Gaye & those already known, but now you see reissues of albums by Marvin Holmes, the Lightmen, McNeal & Niles etc. All this great music being brought to the forefront as the result of hiphop producers diggin' for obscure artists to find that perfect sample.

I have about 3000 jazz/funk/soul records from the 70's all because of hiphop. I started by being interested who these artists sampled & diggin for those records. In the process I fell in love with the music. Multiply this by a million & you have a whole vinyl sub-culture all because of hiphop. Don't believe me? Visit www.soulstrut.com
Hundreds of thousands of people on this site worldwide interested in vinyl, 70's artists & hiphop.

This is the side of hiphop few people know about.
A lot of house, drum & bass, electronic producers got their feet wet by making hiphop beats & vice versa.

For those who think hiphop only contributed to mysogeny & violene, you guys need to do more research. MTV, BET, & the radio only promote less than 15% of the hiphop out there.

You're the minority. You realize that don't you?

At least your getting an understanding about what good music sounds like. It's like the producers know that no one around
now will ever compare to the real talent of Stevie Wonder, Smokey Robinson, War, Earth wind and fire to name just a few.
That generation of music was meant for EVERYBODY, not just the bling crowd. I guess we were lucky. we got "Inner Visions"
you got " 50 Cent", my condolences....

let me ask you--don't you think it's possible that the everyone you listed (Stevie, Smokey, EW&F) and other "classic" singers like Ray Charles, Nat King Cole were popular because the small # of producers/recording studios wanted to promote thee best singers? nowadays, a lot of rappers and R&B are producing their own stuff, so even if they're not exactly phenomenal, their music is getting out on the airwaves. then of course, it's also common knowledge that 3rd parties (hired by big recording studios) are paying radio stations/DJs some $$$ to play certain recording artists just to keep 'em on the charts (mainly the pop artists like JLo, Beyonce, etc).

so if we wonder what's happen to the "good" music of yesteryears, i think it's a combination of factors--society and the world changing in general, a vast number of producers compared to the past, greed by radio stations, marketing/capitalistic view of the big recording studios, etc.

 

[slackerinabox]

You guys must be either old or really nerdy white kids who got picked on a lot in elementary school and now jerk off to your Dungeons and Dragons fan art while listening to crappy classic rock.

No, seriously - every genre has good and bad artists. There's some brilliant hip hop out there, you just won't hear it on the radio. Remember,rock stations play Kelly Clarkson now - all mainstream music sucks, not just hip hop.

I hate people who say that they hate entire genres of music. When I was young I'd say I hated country and rap but what about Johnny Cash and Public Enemy? I was a dorky brown kid who jerked off to... Nevermind. Expand your mind, or be bitter, uncultured white trash. I went to a hip hop show (DJ Spooky) - 99% of the audience were upper class, well dressed, middle-aged white people. It was in a former opera house - they appreciated the hip hop music like Classical music because they understand the social and musical implications of the music. Because these people were educated and liked experiencing new things.. And they enjoyed the hell out of it. it was the best show I've experienced, and I sat down to a 70 year old woman wearing an evening gown and pearls.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: nboy22
Stupid baggy clothing that goes all the way down to your knees, half of teenagers asses hanging out of their pants.

..comes from prison. the inside is out.

And what culture glorifies/glamorizes prison life?

Country music was doing this WAY before Rap was even close to being born. Some of Johnny Cash's lyrics are as bad as anything a rapper has said if you take into account the Johnny Cash songs are old. He did a song about popping pills and burning down his GF's house. Oh and he shot a man just to watch him die.

I'm sick of rap getting blamed for everything, Country music is the root of all evil, maybe it's just more acceptable if it's a twangy redneck singing it?

 

[NGC_604]

If there was no hip hop culture then we'd probably still have an NBA where the top players didn't get their asses whooped by a bunch of 5 foot 9 Europeans in the Olympics.