Things that probably wouldn't exist today if not for the hip hop culture?

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: nboy22
Stupid baggy clothing that goes all the way down to your knees, half of teenagers asses hanging out of their pants.

..comes from prison. the inside is out.

And what culture glorifies/glamorizes prison life?

Country music was doing this WAY before Rap was even close to being born. Some of Johnny Cash's lyrics are as bad as anything a rapper has said if you take into account the Johnny Cash songs are old. He did a song about popping pills and burning down his GF's house. Oh and he shot a man just to watch him die.

I'm sick of rap getting blamed for everything, Country music is the root of all evil, maybe it's just more acceptable if it's a twangy redneck singing it?

Exactly. If there is anything we can learn from the Rap Culture is that it is based on love, peace and respect of the law.

MotionMan

 

[slackerinabox]

The matrix movies. Movies in general, actually, would be different if we didn't experience the cut and paste/remix culture that is hip hop. Rock music would be very different, most great indie rock bands have some sort of DJ element or feature production work that is very much inspired by hip hop. Many, many, many genres of music extend from hip hop (and hip hop from jazz) - electro-clash, goth (with their very heavy synth use), drum and bass, jungle, industrial... I could go on and on. Hip hop fashion often gets filtered down into the mainstream and much of the hipper, edgier fashion that's selling like hot cakes to people with far more money than you ATOT readers (white people, fashionistas, not the ghetto people you fear) on Madison Ave. would not exist. So we'd still be wearing Polo shIrts and jordache jeans.. Hmm.. What else.. We'd have no one to bitter toward when a black guy picks up the girl you like in a bar because their confidence makes them more appealing than your thinly veiled insecurities...

 

[BUTCH1]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
The matrix movies. Movies in general, actually, would be different if we didn't experience the cut and paste/remix culture that is hip hop. Rock music would be very different, most great indie rock bands have some sort of DJ element or feature production work that is very much inspired by hip hop. Many, many, many genres of music extend from hip hop (and hip hop from jazz) - electro-clash, goth (with their very heavy synth use), drum and bass, jungle, industrial... I could go on and on. Hip hop fashion often gets filtered down into the mainstream and much of the hipper, edgier fashion that's selling like hot cakes to people with far more money than you ATOT readers (white people, fashionistas, not the ghetto people you fear) on Madison Ave. would not exist. So we'd still be wearing Polo shIrts and jordache jeans.. Hmm.. What else.. We'd have no one to bitter toward when a black guy picks up the girl you like in a bar because their confidence makes them more appealing than your thinly veiled insecurities...

Are you trying to tell me I'm bitter because I can't afford hip hop fashion???No, if I won the lottery I would not
be shopping for hip-hop fashion, trust me. Like I said, I got "Inner Visions" you got "50 cent" Wow, what a bargain!
it's not so bad being old sometimes!!

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: BUTCH1

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
The matrix movies. Movies in general, actually, would be different if we didn't experience the cut and paste/remix culture that is hip hop. Rock music would be very different, most great indie rock bands have some sort of DJ element or feature production work that is very much inspired by hip hop. Many, many, many genres of music extend from hip hop (and hip hop from jazz) - electro-clash, goth (with their very heavy synth use), drum and bass, jungle, industrial... I could go on and on. Hip hop fashion often gets filtered down into the mainstream and much of the hipper, edgier fashion that's selling like hot cakes to people with far more money than you ATOT readers (white people, fashionistas, not the ghetto people you fear) on Madison Ave. would not exist. So we'd still be wearing Polo shIrts and jordache jeans.. Hmm.. What else.. We'd have no one to bitter toward when a black guy picks up the girl you like in a bar because their confidence makes them more appealing than your thinly veiled insecurities...

Are you trying to tell me I'm bitter because I can't afford hip hop fashion???No, if I won the lottery I would not
be shopping for hip-hop fashion, trust me. Like I said, I got "Inner Visions" you got "50 cent" Wow, what a bargain!
it's not so bad being old sometimes!!

Hip hop fashion is not what poor kids get for $14.99 at the back of a wallmart. Or those stores in the ghetto. this is what i mean by hip hop fashion, Sean John blazer

I find it a good mix of edgy and classy. I prefer urban outfitters but don't confuse the clothing of poor kids from the ghetto with urban wear/hip hop inspired fashion.

 

[compuwiz1]

Eminem

Welfare probably wouldn't exist today.

Section 8 housing

Lincoln Naviagators with twenty fo's, parked in section 8 housing.

 

[Synomenon]

Those jerks driving down the street at 3am in the morning blasting their stereos when I'm trying to get some sleep.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: nboy22
Stupid baggy clothing that goes all the way down to your knees, half of teenagers asses hanging out of their pants.

..comes from prison. the inside is out.

And what culture glorifies/glamorizes prison life?

Country music was doing this WAY before Rap was even close to being born. Some of Johnny Cash's lyrics are as bad as anything a rapper has said if you take into account the Johnny Cash songs are old. He did a song about popping pills and burning down his GF's house. Oh and he shot a man just to watch him die.

I'm sick of rap getting blamed for everything, Country music is the root of all evil, maybe it's just more acceptable if it's a twangy redneck singing it?

Exactly. If there is anything we can learn from the Rap Culture is that it is based on love, peace and respect of the law.

MotionMan

so if a rapper says "fvck the law!" it's evil bad and wrong. but if Johnny Cash says the same thing it's not really an issue, because he's not a rapper?

gotta love double standards. And way to take a SMALL portion and use it for an example of what a whole culture is based on. Which, by the way is way off because the foundation of rap was to keep kids from fighting in the streets and give them something constructive to do. Regardless of what SOME of it has became today.

If i had a teenager I'd much rather they listen to rap and wear pants that hang off their ass than to be an Emo who cuts themselves and listens to Jesus Mary Chain, but hay that's just me.

 

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: nboy22
Stupid baggy clothing that goes all the way down to your knees, half of teenagers asses hanging out of their pants.

..comes from prison. the inside is out.

And what culture glorifies/glamorizes prison life?

Country music was doing this WAY before Rap was even close to being born. Some of Johnny Cash's lyrics are as bad as anything a rapper has said if you take into account the Johnny Cash songs are old. He did a song about popping pills and burning down his GF's house. Oh and he shot a man just to watch him die.

I'm sick of rap getting blamed for everything, Country music is the root of all evil, maybe it's just more acceptable if it's a twangy redneck singing it?

Exactly. If there is anything we can learn from the Rap Culture is that it is based on love, peace and respect of the law.

MotionMan

so if a rapper says "fvck the law!" it's evil bad and wrong. but if Johnny Cash says the same thing it's not really an issue, because he's not a rapper?

gotta love double standards. And way to take a SMALL portion and use it for an example of what a whole culture is based on. Which, by the way is way off because the foundation of rap was to keep kids from fighting in the streets and give them something constructive to do. Regardless of what SOME of it has became today.

If i had a teenager I'd much rather they listen to rap and wear pants that hang off their ass than to be an Emo who cuts themselves and listens to Jesus Mary Chain, but hay that's just me.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I really don't think Johnny Cash advocated killing police and slapping "b!tches" as a way to get through life. He may have sung about it, but for all his influence there were very few, if any people, who did what he sang about.

 

[ch33zw1z]

No matter what good hip hop may have done, it has been superseded by the legacy of gangster rap starting in the 90s. People will always remember the violence, hatred, arrogance, and complete disregard for any/everything that involves social structure in our society. There is nothing that can be done about this...So to those of you defending hip hop: You will never change the public face of what hip hop has become. To those of you attacking hip hop: Let it go, and try to explain to your children to destructive nature of "thug life" so they can grow to be something, instead of just another dead "thug".

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
You guys must be either old or really nerdy white kids who got picked on a lot in elementary school and now jerk off to your Dungeons and Dragons fan art while listening to crappy classic rock.

No, seriously - every genre has good and bad artists. There's some brilliant hip hop out there, you just won't hear it on the radio. Remember,rock stations play Kelly Clarkson now - all mainstream music sucks, not just hip hop.

I hate people who say that they hate entire genres of music. When I was young I'd say I hated country and rap but what about Johnny Cash and Public Enemy? I was a dorky brown kid who jerked off to... Nevermind. Expand your mind, or be bitter, uncultured white trash. I went to a hip hop show (DJ Spooky) - 99% of the audience were upper class, well dressed, middle-aged white people. It was in a former opera house - they appreciated the hip hop music like Classical music because they understand the social and musical implications of the music. Because these people were educated and liked experiencing new things.. And they enjoyed the hell out of it. it was the best show I've experienced, and I sat down to a 70 year old woman wearing an evening gown and pearls.

first intelligent post i've seen you make on here.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

blaming hip hop is exactly like that dude who blames video games for everything.

 

[skace]

Haha looks like there is approximately 1 person who took this thread to heart. *cough* starts with an f *cough*

 

[Inspector Jihad]

also, i think a lot of you are confusing gangsta rap, which is a type of rap, with the entire hip-hop culture. stop being stupid.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: OVerLoRDI

Originally posted by: DrPizza
Since I never hear music other than hip hop on them (plus the sound of rust rattling), I'm going to say that cars with stereo systems worth twice the value of the car wouldn't be in existence.

That's a really good example.

Similarly crappy ass old American cars with rims worth more than the car itself.

aka GHETTO SLEDS !!!!!!! (ok now someone post the pic, I lost the link to it)...

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: elmro
flavor of love

on that note, also Doggy Fizzle Televizzle

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: nboy22
Stupid baggy clothing that goes all the way down to your knees, half of teenagers asses hanging out of their pants.

..comes from prison. the inside is out.

And what culture glorifies/glamorizes prison life?

Country music was doing this WAY before Rap was even close to being born. Some of Johnny Cash's lyrics are as bad as anything a rapper has said if you take into account the Johnny Cash songs are old. He did a song about popping pills and burning down his GF's house. Oh and he shot a man just to watch him die.

I'm sick of rap getting blamed for everything, Country music is the root of all evil, maybe it's just more acceptable if it's a twangy redneck singing it?

Exactly. If there is anything we can learn from the Rap Culture is that it is based on love, peace and respect of the law.

MotionMan

so if a rapper says "fvck the law!" it's evil bad and wrong. but if Johnny Cash says the same thing it's not really an issue, because he's not a rapper?

1. I am not defending Johnny Cash;
2. I am aware of the rap lyrics where they advocate killing cops and rape and robbery, etc. Please point me to and quote the Johnny Cash lyrics of which you speak;
3. If Johnny Cash advocated killing cops, rape and robbery, then I will make similar statements about him in the Johnny Cash thread.

gotta love double standards. And way to take a SMALL portion and use it for an example of what a whole culture is based on. Which, by the way is way off because the foundation of rap was to keep kids from fighting in the streets and give them something constructive to do. Regardless of what SOME of it has became today.

You're right, only the popular rap of today advocates killings cops, rape and robbery. All the rest teaches unity of the races and love for the fellow man.

If i had a teenager I'd much rather they listen to rap and wear pants that hang off their ass than to be an Emo who cuts themselves and listens to Jesus Mary Chain, but hay that's just me.

If those were the only choices, I guess you might be right. But since there are other choices for kids out there, your statement has no value.

MotionMan

 

[Mardeth]

tentacle porn

 

[jlbenedict]

The Hummer line of SUV's probably wouldn't be pushed so hard.


I really don't understand the reasoning that the hip hop thugs like in having the largest of everything...

They all have to roll around in their Hummers.. and their Hayabusa's as well..

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
No, seriously - every genre has good and bad artists. There's some brilliant hip hop out there, you just won't hear it on the radio. Remember,rock stations play Kelly Clarkson now - all mainstream music sucks, not just hip hop.

No rock station I listen to will play Kell-ah. Maybe you're confusing rock stations with "Top 40's" stations.

 

[Ryan]

Pimpin' wouldn't be big

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: nboy22
Stupid baggy clothing that goes all the way down to your knees, half of teenagers asses hanging out of their pants.

..comes from prison. the inside is out.

And what culture glorifies/glamorizes prison life?

Country music was doing this WAY before Rap was even close to being born. Some of Johnny Cash's lyrics are as bad as anything a rapper has said if you take into account the Johnny Cash songs are old. He did a song about popping pills and burning down his GF's house. Oh and he shot a man just to watch him die.

I'm sick of rap getting blamed for everything, Country music is the root of all evil, maybe it's just more acceptable if it's a twangy redneck singing it?

Exactly. If there is anything we can learn from the Rap Culture is that it is based on love, peace and respect of the law.

MotionMan

so if a rapper says "fvck the law!" it's evil bad and wrong. but if Johnny Cash says the same thing it's not really an issue, because he's not a rapper?

gotta love double standards. And way to take a SMALL portion and use it for an example of what a whole culture is based on. Which, by the way is way off because the foundation of rap was to keep kids from fighting in the streets and give them something constructive to do. Regardless of what SOME of it has became today.

If i had a teenager I'd much rather they listen to rap and wear pants that hang off their ass than to be an Emo who cuts themselves and listens to Jesus Mary Chain, but hay that's just me.

I don't recall the message from Johnny Cash being '"fvck the law!" it's evil bad and wrong'. If anything it was look at the misery and ruin that will result from living life in that manner. "Folsom Prison Blues" did not glorify prison, it was the lament of someone stuck in prison reflecting on what brought them to that place and time and what life would be like as a free man.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
The matrix movies. Movies in general, actually, would be different if we didn't experience the cut and paste/remix culture that is hip hop. Rock music would be very different, most great indie rock bands have some sort of DJ element or feature production work that is very much inspired by hip hop. Many, many, many genres of music extend from hip hop (and hip hop from jazz) - electro-clash, goth (with their very heavy synth use), drum and bass, jungle, industrial... I could go on and on. Hip hop fashion often gets filtered down into the mainstream and much of the hipper, edgier fashion that's selling like hot cakes to people with far more money than you ATOT readers (white people, fashionistas, not the ghetto people you fear) on Madison Ave. would not exist. So we'd still be wearing Polo shIrts and jordache jeans.. Hmm.. What else.. We'd have no one to bitter toward when a black guy picks up the girl you like in a bar because their confidence makes them more appealing than your thinly veiled insecurities...

IMO, since this whole thread is build around people's opinions...

Rock, real rock, is built & based around the blues not hip-hop. Hip-hop at one time may have had its genesis in blues but it has long since abandoned that foundation. The e-tard scene you can keep (jungle, drum & bass, etc...)

Actually, I still wear golf shirts because they work well with my khakis in my office. No, we wouldn't still be wearing Jordache jeans...denims have been around much longer than hip-hop.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Come on guys, one of the greatest men to ever grace the internet would not have been around had it not been for the hip hop culture. I am of course referring to WooWoo Bubb Rubb and his little sis

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: michaels
A majority of crappy music?

QFT.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Grillz yo!
Flat-billed caps 8x as large as the wearers head
Pimp my ride
Thug culture
Imus wouldn't be off the radio

I'm not seeing the benefits of hip-hop so far...